Royce DA 5'9 Throws Joe Budden Under The Bus For Massa Marshall (Eminem) + Joe Responds

[Deltron]

35k vs 200k

600 percent increase.

Slaughterhouse is not marketable in todays era at all and he still signed them.

U think em saw budden ortiz and crook and saw dollar signs? What woukd u call it

you're only looking at sales. You know damn well 99.9% of those sales are from Em stans who would buy anything he cosigned.

beyond sales, Em ain't do shyt for SH.

 

[ZEB WALTON]

Dbl

 

[ZEB WALTON]

you're only looking at sales. You know damn well 99.9% of those sales are from Em stans who would buy anything he cosigned.

beyond sales, Em ain't do shyt for SH.

Why u acting like he gave them no exposure bro. Lol. Whether its 165k more people bought their album then the previous. To anyone else thats a accomplishment...

Yall acting like he ruined them... stop. They are veteran mcs.. who signed to a major and got mad they had to make major music.

Thibk about that. In the 2010s joe budden was on an album that sold 200k copies. Dude hasnt sold more than 20k copies with a release ever.l (non major).

Thats something.

If yall wanna blame em himself for slaughter making wavk music well i wont do that. He aint the one who penned them songs.

 

[Deltron]

Why u acting like he gave them no exposure bro. Lol. Whether its 165k more people bought their album then the previous. To anyone else thats a accomplishment...

Yall acting like he ruined them... stop. They are veteran mcs.. who signed to a major and got mad they had to make major music.

Thibk about that. In the 2010s joe budden was on an album that sold 200k copies. Dude hasnt sold more than 20k copies with a release ever.

Thats something.

If yall wanna blame em himself for slaughter making wavk music well i wont do that. He aint the one who penned them songs.

He did ruin them. his hands were all over the album.

Why do you think people, myself included are skeptical of Conway and co. signing.

If he just let them do their thing, sure.,,but there was definitely his influence/interference on that album they dropped.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Royce is right.


Buddens wasn't wrong but u can't be critiquing the man that cut ur check

Sure you can...

They had a business arrangement....This ain't a sandlot situation. If you think Buddens ate more than Rosenberg & Em in regards to the project they did then you're mistaken. Rap got wayyyyyyyy too business oriented. Hell Biggie almost lost his life being true to himself regarding E-40 lol Can't be running around with kid gloves like your daughter showed you her first painting

 

[Maude]

massa marshall is crazy

 

[JYoung24]

Lol joe didnt even diss ems music he was actually biased towards em lol i dont get it

 

[JYoung24]

Wait are we really bytching at Lt Dan for what is a typical Coli thread title?

Royce is right and I love to shyt on Eminem. You can be critical and not do it like an a$$hole. Sadly, that's just how Joe Budden delivers anything

He never dissed em

 

[JYoung24]

I feel you're point, but I also feel where their camp is coming from.

Joe could've made those same points without calling the album trash or getting personal by saying Em was using the "black plight" for album sales.

Especially considering that Em tried to save his music career from the toilet and put a lot of bread in his pocket.

I'm not saying Joe should whore his opinions out for dollars, but at the same time, there's a time and place for everything.

I think him calling Em out like that on a national show was in very poor taste, especially considering their relationship.

I'm on record as saying I can't stand Em's music, but I'm also a nikka that respects loyalty and integrity.

Joe has always come off as a bytch ass nikka that happens to make pretty dope hip hop and now makes a very good podcast.

He's an industry nikka, plain and simple.

He didnt call the album trash he said he didnt losten to the album yet. Mal rory and ak are tge ones tgat said the album was trash

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Em done talked too much shyt about too many people to be so sensitive...bottom line

And his music is too trash

 

[JYoung24]

I see both sides and agree with both AND disagree. A very complicated situation.

As much as i think joe is a bird, i agree with his eminem breakdown. Royce said “there was an easier way to go about that album that em coulda took but didnt” which i believe is a copout. Em is RICH. He dont need to make hits and can afford to make this album rn. Em needs a target and trump is an an easy one. If em was a rebel he would have went at obama but he knows better. Em needs the black audience for rep like it or not. He has always pandered for rep since day one so this is not nothing new. He did it with Bush hell do it with Trump.

So imo eminem imo deserves NO recognition for this move it was a very easy one to make like every one hes done with his career. “Whos popular rn” = “diss them”. Its a simple equation.

With that said, joe did not have to go out of his way to say all that in that way. Especially when you signed to dide and dude helped reignite the flame on your career.

Joe stans can say all they want, budden was dead in the water pre slaughterhouse. He would not be where he is now without them. So joe going at a supposed friend like this only shows joes arrogance and snake like tendencies.

Joe calling anyone out for attention seeking is funny to me as dude cant keep other MCs names out his mouth.

Hes just a chatty patty bytch ass dude. A social media loving twitter thot. If em was dudes friend that would have been put out in a private conversation not on a popular platform. Joe tried to convince people em was pandering; he was right but there is a time and place for such things and social media/internet/tv isnt one of them; but welcome to the brave new world where nothing is private..

Em gettjng so upset sons a chatty patty makes em look like a hoe too. Em decided to play politics a long time ago and instead of going against the system became a part of it and is helping perpetrate the fraud.

Everyone lost in this sitch. Both have valid points but BOTH made themselves look dumb as fukk with how they made their points. A lesson in humility is needed.


I know yall budden fans wants to believe this so bad but im sure its false. Budden was on the road with slaughterhouse more than he ever was on his oWn. Em put money in dudes pockets. He took 4 mcs with 0 buzz who were heading to the literal slaughterhouse and gave them a breath of life. Joe prolly thinks he didnt need that breath but dude was DOA idk who he and the budden stans are kidding.

Onnce again joe didnt diss em all he said he didnt like one song he didnt call the album trash or nothing

 

[Spades Of Aces]

Hmm...I wonder what Joe’s opinion will be once he finally listens to the album.

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

He never dissed em

He did though. He didn't say 'eminem sucks' but certainly the tone, his demeanor, and what he said falls under the category of 'dissing' as it certainly wasn't praising.

Saying 'Man Lebron's jumper is trash, the guy is trying too hard to please kids with this goofy shots that aren't doing shyt' isn't the same as 'Lebron needs to work on improving his jump shot and shot selection'

Im with Royce.

 

[Stacks]

The album is fukking awful, what's so hard to grasp?

Joe's honest opinion >>> Royce's "We can't upset Marshall" opinion

 

[JYoung24]

Why u acting like he gave them no exposure bro. Lol. Whether its 165k more people bought their album then the previous. To anyone else thats a accomplishment...

Yall acting like he ruined them... stop. They are veteran mcs.. who signed to a major and got mad they had to make major music.

Thibk about that. In the 2010s joe budden was on an album that sold 200k copies. Dude hasnt sold more than 20k copies with a release ever.l (non major).

Thats something.

If yall wanna blame em himself for slaughter making wavk music well i wont do that. He aint the one who penned them songs.

Thats a lie no love lost sold way more than 20k