Run The Jewels - RTJ4 (Discussion Thread)

Nah. Finding out that “kill your masters” was a metaphor, and he had no real interest in change. Only elevating his socioeconomic standing. The same guy who made “That’s Life” chastising the wealthy for forgetting about those they come from is now a bootlicker. Kinda takes the air out of the music for me.

 

Same here. Usually I would be hype for RTJ. Now I'm

 

Not in the mood for them right now. I'll check it out later though

 

killer mike kinda messed this all up with his recent rhetoric. it's a shame because el-p's production has some hits on this

even zack de la rocha couldnt save this

 

Albums dope. That’s all I got

 

How does he not have a real interest in change? And how exactly is he a boot licker for saying don't destroy your own property?

People take small soundbites and snippets and make more of it than the entire message. He didn't condemn protesters for taking their angst out on the CNN building. He was speaking on destroying property that isn't going to send a message or essentially isn't going to be missed by those in power, but would affect Black dollars in our communities.

 

I have some time to kill. So I’ll indulge your obfuscation for a moment. So far as I understand, there have been no neighborhoods burned down. Homes, and the like. The only businesses I’ve seen in my city at least (Richmond) to have been burned were national franchises. Any other businesses have not had any structural damage. Broken glass maybe. If anything was looted those CORPORATIONS all have insurance. In the same breathe how many of these companies that are yelling out about this even pays their employees a livable wage? I don’t care if the owner is black if he’s robbing his employees. In a moment of national unrest the first thing we see from you is tears? Crying about how your father was a police officer? While wearing a “kill your masters” t shirt? Historically when their is civil unrest there is collateral damage. It’s called a RIOT. By nature it’s not peaceful. Protest with permission is a parade. Who’s interest are you aligned with if it’s the reaction of the people who look like you is to be upset, and lash out concerning the loss of a life. State sanctioned murder. But yours is akin to the property owners and your fanbase? You watched T.I. get up there dressed like a farmhand and refer to Atlanta is Wakanda. A fictional African nation.


That was no small sound bite. What I quoted is exactly how the speech began. A grown man crying talmbout “my daddy was a cop.”

 

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Welp there goes the official thread. Not checking for the album since dude became a fukking hypocrite

 

Will bump this on the way to work in the morn.... Oooh lala is video of the year so far....

 

Damn Killer... we gave him made chances though

 

Well, you are misinformed because Black businesses were destroyed. Some even had Black people in them while the damage was being done. These were not nationally owned franchises and even indicated that they were Black owned on the sign.

Of course he's going to feel a type of way about his father being a police officer. He sees unarmed Black men killed by the police and his father was a police officer. He certainly feels angst about it and being Black, he's probably wanted to take that angst out on police officers and even hated police officers for it, BUT his father was an officer. That is tough to reconcile. So yes, he's shedding tears because while he's angry, there is an internal conflict that comes with that especially if you feel a way about law enforcement period.

What does how T.I. was dressed have to do with his statements? I don't agree with T.I. likening Atlanta to a fictional city, but again you clearly don't understand.

 

I say again, why does property seem to matter more to you? These same black businesses do they pay their employees a livable wage? I also said in my city. If the first thing we hear from the popular entertainers of ATL is “hey, don’t tear up property. Because I own some.” They are useless.