Russell Wilson traded to Broncos!!

[Mashal88]

Russ didn't give up 70 points to the Dolphins but he's also not going to win you any games. They have bigger issues, but Russ isn't getting any younger. If they're willing to take that dead cap hit Denver's going to cut him and start over. I think it's silly but it is what it is.

I know what you mean to a degree, but he's won them plenty games this season alone lol. Hes still a top 15 QB. The receivers(outside of Sutton who really feel like a #2) aren't anything to write home about. And Sean Payton gets to skate on the playcalling and decision making after talking all that shyt in the offseason.

But hey, Broncos do have a lot of issues. Zappe looked like a pro bowler out there. But yeah, Russ is making a lot of money and he's past is prime.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Facts. The money is everything.

The money he's going to want is going to price him out of most teams that NEED a QB.

No young rebuilding team is going to pay a 35 year old QB 40-45 mil a year

So that leaves you with teams who think they are a mid QB away from winning. How many teams is this honestly? Raiders, Vikings, Steelers, Falcons, Bucs...I cant think of any more. This list is small.

If he's cut after June 1, usually teams have blown their cap space at that point. Its going to be tricky

If they are giving up on the season, I can see why they want to bench Russ.

But you gotta run one more season at them cap numbers with him.

 

[Braman]

The money is relevant to the topic of discussion considering that's the reason why they're benching him in the first place to prevent it from being fully guaranteed moving forward.

Posters can't on one hand shyt on teams for overpaying for QBs, then complain that they try to rid themselves out of it.

It’s a sunk cost for a starting QB. We did this with Kirk cousins. You start counting coins it’s not good. You pay to play and that’s it.

Im a commanders fan, trust me I can tell them their future. They are actually at the last phase of their QB carousel. What’s supposed to happen is you draft Russ’ heir apparent and let him sit and he’d be ready in a year or 2

Instead they’re impatiently resetting the clock with a mid first QB they will now be without a QB for the next 10 years .

They are about to draft their Dwayne Haskins (rip). Mid-first QB rebuilds are the worst thing you can do. See Mac jones, see Kenny Pickett.

 

[Rekkapryde]

I know what you mean to a degree, but he's won them plenty games this season alone lol. Hes still a top 15 QB. The receivers(outside of Sutton who really feel like a #2) aren't anything to write home about. And Sean Payton gets to skate on the playcalling and decision making after talking all that shyt in the offseason.

But hey, Broncos do have a lot of issues. Zappe looked like a pro bowler out there. But yeah, Russ is making a lot of money and he's past is prime.

Sutton is 100% a #2.

Jeudy is a bust.

O-line is cheeks.

Payton's decision making is ass too (but no one is callin him out on it. Easier to pernt da finga at others).

 

[b. woods]

Watch Easton Stick come in and the Broncos start moving the ball wit ease

Fixed, pleihboi

Sean P. LOVES "Random #s" and will somehow find a way to get Stick to Denver.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

It’s a sunk cost for a starting QB. We did this with Kirk cousins. You start counting coins it’s not good. You pay to play and that’s it.

Im a commanders fan, trust me I can tell them their future. They are actually at the last phase of their QB carousel. What’s supposed to happen is you draft Russ’ heir apparent and let him sit and he’s be ready in a year or 2

Instead they’re resetting the clock with a non top 5 QB they will be without a QB for the next 10 years .

They are about to draft their Dwayne Haskins (rip). Mid-first QB rebuilds are the worst thing you can do. See Mac jones, see Kenny Pickett.

Russ isn't a $40M QB at this point his career and I say that as one of the first posters who was sounding the alarm about him at the beginning of last season noting how he didn't look right.

If teams have a way to get out of a QB, then you better believe that they're going to take it and QBs aren't the exception to that.

You using Kurt is a poor example considering how he would always take short term deals and get all of his money upfront, which is what Russ should have done considering he had the leverage to do so.

 

[MikelArteta]

Pittsburgh.

Pittsburgh would be perfect.
Russ still threw for 26 TDs in 15 games

 

[Loose]

Sutton is 100% a #2.

Jeudy is a bust.

O-line is cheeks.

Payton's decision making is ass too (but no one is callin him out on it. Easier to pernt da finga at others).

I dont agree these are bad wrs, I however believe russ is a bad qb. Russ doesn't have the ability to get them the ball. Juedy is often open on all 22 russ doesn't look his way considering his routes are often middle of the field.

Offense is checkdowns screens and the occasional sutton jumpball

 

[mastermind]

Attack numbers while bringing up numbers

Well which is it, him as a QB or his money? The money is a sunk cost that’s irrelevant. If it’s his play, make it work. Now more than ever QBs are showing they can be schemed up. Goff, Geno, Minshew. ATP im pretty sure I could throw for an efficient 250 in Shane Steichen offense. So ok, find a Shane Steichen.

That’s the real solution if they didn’t commit to a bytch like Payton. NOT to throw away an above average QB looking for a great one —with the 17th pick in the draft.

It’s arrogant. Bc that does not happen. QBs drafted in the teens have a terrible track record. Bc you’re banking on half a dozen teams to just be stupid and you’re smarter. That type of arrogance could only come from an out of touch dinosaur like Payton

Yeah

Unless they see a potential Lamar, you don’t draft non elite QBs in the first two rounds, imo. You are wasting a pick and deluding yourself. The 2011 draft was the ultimate version of this with all the reaches that ended up at best as back ups.

 

[b. woods]

If they cut him they're gonna be Carolina bad for like 3 years. Even if you get a good rookie QB you got like 40M - 50M in dead cap you can't access for two consecutive years. Gonna be filling out your roster with "Random #s"

I'd be irate if I was a Denver fan

Fixed, this is Sean P. you're referring to

Gonna have Easop Winston out there in Denver lined up as the #1 WR

 

[drifter]

He’s having a better year than when the Hawks won the SB and many of their other great seasons. He ain’t the problem in Denver

Because you're googling numbers most likely not watching games

Miami, SF, Philly, KC, pretty much every contender calls exotic shyt to get guys free, they run a super basic high volume check offense because he can't get the ball down the field anymore. Side effect of the numbers looking great is you ain't winning shyt

Some of it is he's not throwing to Metcalf & Lockett anymore, some of it the arm looks weaker. A huge chunk of it has been a problem his whole career, he can't read defenses because he can't see over his linemen. Seattle Russ could scramble out to see guys, he still needs to leave to see but he can't evade defenders anymore, on top of being slower. So what's the point of him?

If Denver didn't go on that run nobody would be surprised he's not a winning QB anymore

 

[Dipsey Doo]

Pittsburgh would be perfect.

Russ in a cold weather division, mid 30s, can't read a defense, runs like he's in quicksand, facing the Browns, Ravens and Bengals defense 6 times a year

 

[Loose]

Because you're googling numbers most likely not watching games

Miami, SF, Philly, KC, pretty much every contender calls exotic shyt to get guys free, they run a super basic high volume check offense because he can't get the ball down the field anymore. Side effect of the numbers looking great is you ain't winning shyt

Some of it is he's not throwing to Metcalf & Lockett anymore, some of it the arm looks weaker. A huge chunk of it has been a problem his whole career, he can't read defenses because he can't see over his linemen. Seattle Russ could scramble out to see guys, he still needs to leave to see but he can't evade defenders anymore, on top of being slower. So what's the point of him?

If Denver didn't go on that run nobody would be surprised he's not a winning QB anymore

Great post

 

[Braman]

Russ isn't a $40M QB at this point his career and I say that as one of the first posters who was sounding the alarm about him at the beginning of last season noted how he didn't look right.

If teams have a way to get out of a QB, then you better believe that they're going to take it and QBs aren't the exception to that.

You using Kurt is a poor example considering how he would always take short term deals and get all of his money upfront, which is what Russ should have done considering he had the leverage to do so.

It just dont work like that. He’s worth whatever you needed to pay him. It’s all relative.

Like would it make you feel better if he was getting paid 30M? Bc that’s pretty much the minimum for a solidified starting veteran QB. So what’s an extra 10 mill? A starting nickleback? It’s silly.

You either have a QB on rookie deal, a fringe starter bridge QB who can implode at any moment (see the Passtranaut, see Jimmy G, see PJ Walker), or you’re paying 30 mill +. That’s the cost of piece of mind and a workable piece of clay with upside. So in this context, he’s worth 40M. Ie Ask Minnesota fans what Kirk is worth now

 

[gho3st]

Russ isn't a $40M QB at this point his career and I say that as one of the first posters who was sounding the alarm about him at the beginning of last season noting how he didn't look right.

If teams have a way to get out of a QB, then you better believe that they're going to take it and QBs aren't the exception to that.

You using Kurt is a poor example considering how he would always take short term deals and get all of his money upfront, which is what Russ should have done considering he had the leverage to do so.

Have you look at his numbers?