Russia Embarrassing U.S In Syria

[Nemesis]

I always found this argument stupid because its too black and white. Just because I personally dont agree with Syria turning into another Libya doesnt mean I agree with all of Assad's polices. But the funny part they wont tell you is that Assad is still loved and supported by a lot of his people. The majority of refugees still living in Syria live under Assad. I have friends there and no they dont love Assad but they dont want to live under some bullshyt sharia law either.

But if we take out Assad we get a whole list of genicodal manics who will turn the country into a warzone, which is apparently what HL wants. Syria was once the safest countries in the ME and one of the few secular ones. Guys just think about it. What if the republicans who hated obama start a civil war and all of America's enemies fund and support them. Would yall be sitting here just chilling or would you be upset about this foreign country trying to overthrow your government.

And no @88m3 I don't Stan Russia or Syria, but im sick and tired of this country overthrowing governments and then acting surprised when theres people fleeing the countries they helped destabilize

TRUTH


Im no fan of Assad, but when it comes to the middle east its all about perception, the Saudi regime is much more repressive than Assad ever was and you dont see USA cutting ties with its greatest ally in the region ....

its a shame when the best option appears to be is to sit it out

 

[ExodusNirvana]

The US would love for Russia to get involved in some prolonged Middle East fukkery

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The US would love for Russia to get involved in some prolonged Middle East fukkery

I see that happening

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Russia In Syria - The Diane Rehm Show

AUDIO: https://thedianerehmshow.org/audio/#/shows/2015-09-22/russia-in-syria/111120/@00:00

Russian President Vladimir Putin (R) meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sept. 21 at the Novo-Ogaryovo residence, outside Moscow. MIKHAIL KLIMENTYEV/AFP/GETTY IMAGES

Russia’s military buildup in Syria is causing serious concern in the U.S. Reports that Russia might be coordinating with Iran to help prop up Syrian President Bashar al-Assad are also troubling U.S. officials. Israel worries that advanced Russian weapons could wind up in the wrong hands, possibly those of Hezbollah fighters long in conflict with Israel. Europe is struggling to deal with a massive tide of refugees, many of them fleeing Syria’s civil war and the brutality of Islamic militants. We look at Russia’s actions in Syria and their implications for the U.S., Europe, the Middle East and the fight against ISIS.

Guests

• James Kitfield contributing editor, National Journal, and senior fellow at the Center for the Study of the Presidency and Congress.
• Julia Ioffe contributing writer for The New York Times magazine and columnist for Foreign Policy; former senior editor, The New Republic.
• Nathan Guttman Washington correspondent, Channel 1 Israeli News and The Forward.

Experts calling this the Cold War

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Now Israel is courting Russia saying the US left it high and dry

These ungrateful a$$holes

 

[ExodusNirvana]

I see that happening

Breh history is repeating itself. This motherfukker Putin wants to bring back the Soviet Union but Russias economy has a severe case of the shyts.

IMO I think the US has taken a step back and are realizing "You know what? fukk it...let somebody else deal with it" and if Russia wants to be that somebody else, cool but it's going to cost them.

 

[DonFrancisco]

Russia dont want it with us. We F'd up by not destroying Assad when we had the chance earlier when white america was saying "Its not our problem" now we got eye sis and white america is saying "WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING" and if we took care of assad when needed we wouldnt have to take in 100k refugees either.

Or we would have situation like Libya. Sure they aren't as screwed as Syria but they are suffering a lot and there is a power vacuum that terrorist and fringe political groups are trying to fill. Of course Libya has tons of oil so the monetary value is there. What would the US want to do? Invade Syria with no international coalition? When Assad is out what would happen then? Would the American people support boots on the ground to make sure the situation doesn't get worse after he is gone? Who would control the government? How would they treat the many ethnic minorities and religions in Syria? How do you prevent Syria splitting like Iraq is current split? If Assad leaves who will control and maintain order with all these different groups and ethnicity that would jock for power?

So many questions. You can't just put boots on the ground. It isn't that simple. The US also doesn't have enough interest in the Middle East. They have strong allies like Egypt , Saudi Arabia, and Israel. Russia is trying to regain a foothold in the regions so they have a lot of vested interest in Assad. Plus ISIS would pose a threat in the future to reignite the fight of Chechen independence.

 

[DonFrancisco]

Only reason this is as embarrassing is because Barry headfaked on how tough of a stance he'd be willing to take on Syria. Basically got his bluff called because the most this is a classic, unwinnable bullshyt Middle East conflict between bad guys and (probably) worse guys.

Honestly I have to say this is Bush fault as much as Obama. Bush was proactively supporting Russia's invasion of Chechnya and was an avid supporter of Putin. He basically gave Russia a green light to invade other nations under some weird moral stance against Islamic terrorism. There is also evidence that Russian intelligence, not Chechen rebels were behind those bombing. This is the fault of 2 dumbass presidents.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Breh history is repeating itself. This motherfukker Putin wants to bring back the Soviet Union but Russias economy has a severe case of the shyts.

IMO I think the US has taken a step back and are realizing "You know what? fukk it...let somebody else deal with it" and if Russia wants to be that somebody else, cool but it's going to cost them.

Yeah. I just see the CIA saying "hey, as long as you don't touch Israel, Iran doesn't get nukes (which russia doesn't want), and KSA is off your radar, play ball" and thats exactly whats going to happen.

Russia is gonna get trolled into another Afghanistan

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[HollowPoints2]

the Soviet Union was Russia + all the other monkey ass nations that it had in it's pocket.
when the USSR collapsed Russia was still Russia...just without all of it's monkeys.

the basic components and characters that made Russia what is was and still is at it's core never went away.

Exactly.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

HOW?? How will Canada get the international cover to put 100,000 boots on the ground when even Russia aint sending that many. And Syria damn sure aint fina let canada just drop 100K troops in their country. How would Canada even get these troops in there? Invade through Turkey? Im so confused.

Canada going through Turkey is exactly how it would happen.
the US has two bases in Turkey; Incirlik Air Base and Izmir Air Base that could be jump off points for Canadian troops.
or if they wanted to be more cloak and daggers about it they could have Greece or Italy publicly ask for Canada's help securing the migrant situation in the Mediterranean Sea.
then Canada responds to this cry for help with a silly amount of naval and air power that heads straight for the shores of Syria.

if they were smart they would be set to go in through Turkey as they made the move in the Mediterranean and then pull off an awesome pincer maneuver.

 

[PewPew]

This is what the glorious Saudi Arabia Monarch HL loves to dikk ride is doing in Yemen:

Canada going through Turkey is exactly how it would happen.
the US has two bases in Turkey; Incirlik Air Base and Izmir Air Base that could be jump off points for Canadian troops.
or if they wanted to be more cloak and daggers about it they could have Greece or Italy publicly ask for Canada's help securing the migrant situation in the Mediterranean Sea.
then Canada responds to this cry for help with a silly amount of naval and air power that heads straight for the shores of Syria.

if they were smart they would be set to go in through Turkey as they made the move in the Mediterranean and then pull off an awesome pincer maneuver.

Although feasible this is something i never see happening. If America isnt willing to put boots on the ground they damn sure aint going to let Canada show them up. Plus Iran and Syria has mutual defense security agreements so Canada attacking Syria would lead to a whole HEAP of trouble. Iran is backed by China and Russia, which have both been very pro Syria as well. The way I see it that would be WW3. There's no way a foreign power is going to come into Syria unless they're invited.

Plus what is Canada going to do about Russia? Sorry breh I cant see it. i can see Canada in Iraq maybe but not Syria

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

This is what the glorious Saudi Arabia Monarch HL loves to dikk ride is doing in Yemen:



Although feasible this is something i never see happening. If America isnt willing to put boots on the ground they damn sure aint going to let Canada show them up. Plus Iran and Syria has mutual defense security agreements so Canada attacking Syria would lead to a whole HEAP of trouble. Iran is backed by China and Russia, which have both been very pro Syria as well. The way I see it that would be WW3. There's no way a foreign power is going to come into Syria unless they're invited.

Plus what is Canada going to do about Russia? Sorry breh I cant see it. i can see Canada in Iraq maybe but not Syria

this all relies on the numbers...i'm not talking about a token gesture.
i'm talking about Canada pushing it's self to the point of breaking in a way that nobody expects.

if i was running the show i would have 250,000 Canadians flood into Syria.
175,000 from the North through Turkey and 75,000 from the west via the Mediterranean.

Russia would get dealt with quickly, they have a very small force in Syria.
China won't do anything militarily...period.

 

[88m3]

TRUTH


Im no fan of Assad, but when it comes to the middle east its all about perception, the Saudi regime is much more repressive than Assad ever was and you dont see USA cutting ties with its greatest ally in the region ....

its a shame when the best option appears to be is to sit it out

How is Saudi more repressive? Do some more reading. Saudi also hasn't lost 300k+ citizens due to civil war and 2MM to displacement.

Saudi is stable. Syria is not.

Sitting it out isn't really an option as this will suck the whole region in which it already has.