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Look up RIM (Russian Imperialist Movement), which is operating in the Ukraine.

Hell, look at Wagner. Wagner, if you know your Nazi history the name itself should make your ears standup and if it does, you'd be 100% correct in the reason why it does. The co-founder of Wagner was a legit neo-Nazi and Wagner was his callsign hence the name.
Dmitry Utkin - Wikipedia - Cofounded Wagner. Below is a picture of his nice tattoos.


You are a victim of psyops. Notice I never denied the existence of Neo-Nazis in the Ukraine but where you failed is thinking that Russia is fighting neo-Nazi instead of pursuing its own imperial ambitions. In fact, some of the intellectuals that Putin himself look to for inspiration of his geo-political goals are straight fascists. See the following:
Probably the biggest influence on Putin's thoughts about Post-Soviet Russia and "A New Third-way" (aka fascism usually)

Dugin, another close friend of Putin who is also an outright fascist who is also very imperialistic. His daughter, who was a paid propagandist and imperialist apologizer got blown to pieces recently btw if you remember.

P.S. The Soviets worked with the Nazis as allies until they were stabbed in the back. They even helped them invade Poland and partition it at the very start of WW2. They didn't have an issue with Nazis until they were in their backyard and Russia itself has a history after WW2 of state sanctioned anti-semitism that were on par with the Nazis

:wow: came through with the receipts
 

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I mentioned it before I erased it because I think I got the exact model of plane wrong. There is a model of plane the US created after it got freaked out by the supposed capability of some plane the Russians developed. Eventually the US out of fear ended up creating one of the best aircrafts around at the time and it turned out the capabilities of Russia's plane was bullshyt.
You're talking about the MiG-25 Foxbat. It was probably the most hyped plane up to that point in history, then one of the pilots crash landed in Japan and defected from the USSR.

America took a deep dive into the aircraft and realized that shyt was middie:mjlol:. The plane was fast as shyt in a straight line, but that was literally it. In response to the Soviets hyping it up, the US built the F-15.

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Only one side is openly wearing nazi symbols and literally have political ties to the original nazis… Russia historically caught Nazis. Ukrainian oligarchy literally have connections to the OG Nazis.
Who is this?

We'll wait.

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@Dr. Acula beat me to it...
 

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You one of them hardliners in the Duma? Why did Medvedev wait until he was out of office to start talking spicy. He ain't really about that life either.

I can pull videos of Ukraine merking Russians too. Not sure why you're so invested, this war is a clear embarrassment for Russia regardless if they have a leash on or not. If I can go over there with a standard radio and listen to their troop movements, they clearly were and still not prepared for this war. I don't give a fukk about hypersonics, Su-57's, or their fukking Sarmats...they getting that work from Buster Douglas right now and that's fukking embarrassing.

Medvedev is a nationalist and was a pragmatist like Putin. Up until 2014 when Nuland pulled that bullshyt off in Ukraine and was trying to spin it into a territory that would be a thorn in the side of Russia. Angela Merkel and Gerhard Schroeder..two preeminent German politicians ALREADY HAVE SAID WHAT THE INTENTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN WITH UKRAINE. You folks just don't pay attention and shoot bullshyt off the hip, it's not good.

All of your media/news networks get their talking points either from the DIA and/or CIA with regards to important geopolitical events such as these. The fact that you believe Ukraine was able to shoot down next gen missile technology that not even the United States, UK and Germany have the ability to do..tells me all about your level of knowledge about such events. Instead of asking the hard, relative questions you recycle propaganda to someone who was a master at creating such narratives long ago. Hilarity.

If you understood that Kiev (Kievan Rus) is literally the epicenter of all things Russian then you'd understand WHY Russia is trying to p*ssy foot with Ukraine...it's like a big brother trying to beat his little brother down into submission without really fukking him up. The US Military and NATO know this and are trying to exploit that ancestral relationship. The problem now is that contrary to what you know..Ukraine is running through their weapons caches too quickly, losing personnel and armor at ridiculously high levels, have no sound air defenses and their economy is ruined. SecDef Austin was correct in his assertion that Ukraine has a very small window in achieving any MEANINGFUL gains in this war..a window that's rapidly closing and will probably need the help of NATO at the expense of all out World War.
 

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Medvedev is a nationalist and was a pragmatist like Putin. Up until 2014 when Nuland pulled that bullshyt off in Ukraine and was trying to spin it into a territory that would be a thorn in the side of Russia. Angela Merkel and Gerhard Schroeder..two preeminent German politicians ALREADY HAVE SAID WHAT THE INTENTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN WITH UKRAINE. You folks just don't pay attention and shoot bullshyt off the hip, it's not good.

All of your media/news networks get their talking points either from the DIA and/or CIA with regards to important geopolitical events such as these. The fact that you believe Ukraine was able to shoot down next gen missile technology that not even the United States, UK and Germany have the ability to do..tells me all about your level of knowledge about such events. Instead of asking the hard, relative questions you recycle propaganda to someone who was a master at creating such narratives long ago. Hilarity.

If you understood that Kiev (Kievan Rus) is literally the epicenter of all things Russian then you'd understand WHY Russia is trying to p*ssy foot with Ukraine...it's like a big brother trying to beat his little brother down into submission without really fukking him up. The US Military and NATO know this and are trying to exploit that ancestral relationship. The problem now is that contrary to what you know..Ukraine is running through their weapons caches too quickly, losing personnel and armor at ridiculously high levels, have no sound air defenses and their economy is ruined. SecDef Austin was correct in his assertion that Ukraine has a very small window in achieving any MEANINGFUL gains in this war..a window that's rapidly closing and will probably need the help of NATO at the expense of all out World War.
Everyone here knows everything and no one here knows anything.

You don't know any of the shyt that you're saying for certain is true; Russian capabilities, intentions, military capabilities...NONE OF IT. You know as much as I know which is what we read and see on the net. The fact that you're barking anything is laughable. You're speculating harder than most.

The one thing what we're NOT going to speculate on is the consequences of the situation that Russia is in because they failed to take Ukraine 16 months later. They are a fukking pariah state now. I don't give a fukk what link you pull out your ass from the darkweb, wikipedia, Infowars, *****, or wherever you get your non-mainstream news from. There is no way Russia wanted the consequences they are dealing with now. And because we know this, we know that they aren't performing as they thought they would have and probably would have held off until a Donald Trump or DeSantis presidency actually took hold. Putin is not sending 100,000's of troops when his country is in a terminal demographic collapse. Big brother/little brother or not, THAT'S fukkING STUPID...
 

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Medvedev is a nationalist and was a pragmatist like Putin.

Medvedev was a puppet of Putin. The only reason he was president is because Putin couldn't run for a third consecutive term.
Up until 2014 when Nuland pulled that bullshyt off in Ukraine and was trying to spin it into a territory that would be a thorn in the side of Russia. Angela Merkel and Gerhard Schroeder..two preeminent German politicians ALREADY HAVE SAID WHAT THE INTENTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN WITH UKRAINE. You folks just don't pay attention and shoot bullshyt off the hip, it's not good.

As a diplomat representing the US, of course she had opinions on what was happening in Ukraine and engaged in the normal actions of a diplomat.

Russia invaded Ukraine. Can you see the difference?
All of your media/news networks get their talking points either from the DIA and/or CIA with regards to important geopolitical events such as these. The fact that you believe Ukraine was able to shoot down next gen missile technology that not even the United States, UK and Germany have the ability to do..tells me all about your level of knowledge about such events. Instead of asking the hard, relative questions you recycle propaganda to someone who was a master at creating such narratives long ago. Hilarity.

Goddamn that's a lot of stupid in one paragraph. Russian hypersonics don't mean shyt. Hypersonic means mach 5 or faster. Hypersonics have been around since the 1930's. Whatever bells and whistles they slapped on them are useless. Oh!!! And did you hear that the scientists that designed Russia's hypersonics have been arrested and charged with treason because the rockets are getting shot down just like anything else. Aaaaannnnnnd another thing... You don't seem to understand that Ukraine is using air defence systems from the US, UK, Germany, etc... These air defence systems can take out Russian hypersonics and they are.


Hypersonic weapon - Wikipedia.
If you understood that Kiev (Kievan Rus) is literally the epicenter of all things Russian then you'd understand WHY Russia is trying to p*ssy foot with Ukraine...it's like a big brother trying to beat his little brother down into submission without really fukking him up.

Nah, Russia is more like the neighborhood pedo.

The US Military and NATO know this and are trying to exploit that ancestral relationship.

:skip: Dude, are you saying that Russia's bullshyt narrative is somehow being acted upon by NATO? What does that even mean?
The problem now is that contrary to what you know..Ukraine is running through their weapons caches too quickly,

Oh, you aint heard about the Lend-Lease Act?
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You really think Uncle Sam don't got them thangs in storage all over the globe? :banderas: My guy, the US military industrial complex is for real for real. What you are seeing right now is the Pentagon jerking off in the corner instead of actually fukking Russia in the ass directly. That's about as plainly as I can say it.

losing personnel and armor at ridiculously high levels,

Shut up. Russian casualties are atrocious and everyone knows it. Good luck creating the next generation. That's why Russia is stealing children.

have no sound air defenses and their economy is ruined.

Already addressed the air defence.

New York State has a larger economy than Russia.

SecDef Austin was correct in his assertion that Ukraine has a very small window in achieving any MEANINGFUL gains in this war..a window that's rapidly closing and will probably need the help of NATO at the expense of all out World War.

Ukraine has been underestimated from the very beginning of the Russian invasion and continuously surprise the world with what it can do. The pentagon got it wrong when they offered Zelensky a ride out. He told them he didn't need a ride, he needed ammo. And if NATO does step in then it's game over within a matter of days. Russia really don't want that smoke.

What else you got?
 

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Both sides are Nazi-like in their thinking. One side is filled cold Nazis (Ukraine) and the other side is filled with colder Nazis (Russia).


US Military Industrial Media is trying hard to convince us to care for Ukraine and it seems like some of you have drank the Kool-Aid. :scust:
 
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You're talking about the MiG-25 Foxbat. It was probably the most hyped plane up to that point in history, then one of the pilots crash landed in Japan and defected from the USSR.

America took a deep dive into the aircraft and realized that shyt was middie:mjlol:. The plane was fast as shyt in a straight line, but that was literally it. In response to the Soviets hyping it up, the US built the F-15.

Edit: video below for educational purposes


Thanks breh.
All of your media/news networks get their talking points either from the DIA and/or CIA with regards to important geopolitical events such as these. The fact that you believe Ukraine was able to shoot down next gen missile technology that not even the United States, UK and Germany have the ability to do..tells me all about your level of knowledge about such events. Instead of asking the hard, relative questions you recycle propaganda to someone who was a master at creating such narratives long ago. Hilarity
Hmm, you ever ask yourself if in effort to avoid what you perceive as CIA propaganda you run into the arms of propaganda of other country's security services?

The US isn't the only bad actor in the world...
Also, not all western countries interests align either. Even allies act independently because their top priority is their own interests. So, is it really independent thought or is it simply exchanging one form of propaganda for another? You mention Germany. One thing you forget to mention is that Germany is a country that as recently as the early 90s had half of it's country as part of the Soviet union. That the former Soviet portion of Germany has significant sympathies towards Russia and anti-eu sentiments and individuals who long for a return of east Germany. That their security services are notoriously viewed as leaky by counties like the United States because they are literally filled with Russian spies and sympathizers. That they had an economic interest to appease Moscow as we saw with their reliance on Russian oil. So given all these factors, the words of Angela Merkel for example deserve some skepticism if all the above are considered. Not that she is wrong or bad but she is going to make assessments and statements that serve German interests first and foremost and these aren't always the interests of the US and vice versa.

Things aren't always black and white in evil vs good terms where US always bad and everyone else is good. You have countless competing interests in every country and a lot of individual histories that drive them.

If Russia's long term goals were only the Ukraine, why did they invade Georgia? Why did they invade the Crimea? Why are they interfering with Belarus and effectively turned it into a puppet state? Why have they effectively turned the eastern region of Moldova, Transnistria, into a puppet state? Why do they threaten Finland, Sweden, Poland, Romania, Lativia, and so on with constant threats of retaking their land? Why are they boosting ethnic nationalism in Serbia? There are countless examples that their interests aren't solely just "reunification" with the Ukraine. Putin is a Russian Imperialist. He doesn't look at the US hegemony and say it's an evil he wants to defeat. He tells his population and overseas sympathizers that. He looks at US hegemony as competition. He wants Russian Hegemony to surpass US hegemony. Particularly in Europe. There is a difference.
 
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By the way, I'll have to find it, but I remember Putin himself admitting that Russia can't compete with the West technology. It was a moment of candid frankness when he was speaking to western journalists. I'll have to find it. I can't remember if it was an article or video. He followed that up by saying that they do have nuclear weapons and it helped even things out for them.

Some folks on here hype up their capabilities more than the Russians themselves when they are being honest and not doing chest thumping like they do sometimes. Got some folks who want to avoid western propaganda so much they go and drink that Russian propaganda like it's Kool aid when they aren't even drinking that shyt like that themselves lol.
I didn't have to find it. Putin admitted they are inferior in weapons and tech himself again recently. This is from today.


The Russian president also confessed that Russian forces were dealing with artillery problems, adding in his remarks that “Yes, we still do not have enough of these modern weapons, but the defense industry, the country's military-industrial complex is developing rapidly.”
 
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