Russia says US facing humiliation in Ukraine like in Vietnam

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Russia is wrong. This wouldn't be Vietnam, this would be Russia getting stuck in Afghanistan 2.0.

Afghanistan and Ukraine both armed by Western weapons, furthermore, this can't be Vietnam, because there are no American troops on the ground
 

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They lost 20 million men and beat the nazis while forcing the japanese to fall back

That's quite the over-simplification :dwillhuh:
First Russia didn't beat the nazis by themselves, you know better than that. And second Russia invaded Manchuria only after the first nuke dropped on Hiroshima.
 

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That's quite the over-simplification :dwillhuh:
First Russia didn't beat the nazis by themselves, you know better than that. And second Russia invaded Manchuria only after the first nuke dropped on Hiroshima.
even before america entered the war it shipped so much military equipment to russia and the other allies that its ridiculous. just like ukraine today, the USSR would have gotten their shyt pushed in without american aid.
 

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even before america entered the war it shipped so much military equipment to russia and the other allies that its ridiculous. just like ukraine today, the USSR would have gotten their shyt pushed in without american aid.

The Soviets were decades behind the West and couldn't mass produce regular things until the 50's and later and even then in limited batches... like there's still things today that they can't create domestically that we take for granted

if you watch videos about their 5 year plans or their domestic airplane and ship building industry you will feel like you're losing your mind
 

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America seems to be doing fine, I honestly don't even know if Russia has the capability to refuel midair
 

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That's quite the over-simplification :dwillhuh:
First Russia didn't beat the nazis by themselves, you know better than that. And second Russia invaded Manchuria only after the first nuke dropped on Hiroshima.

 

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With all the money the US is throwing into Ukraine, yes, Russia is correct. Probably about to be worse because Vietnam was at least about fighting idealism of communism and how it's wrong to embrace. Why exactly is the US THAT invested into Ukraine that they keep sending them money like that? :jbhmm::sas2::mjpls: Miss me with the NATO :duck: talking points! :camby:
The U.S. lost 58,000 dead in 10 years in Vietnam. Russia has confirmed at least 50,000 dead in 2 years.

No it’s not Vietnam. It’s far worse for the Russians.
 

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They lost 20 million men and beat the nazis while forcing the japanese to fall back

I don’t think we should be comparing the emerging superpower of the Soviet Union of 1941 which was an empire in all but name that was facing a war for national survival to the Russian oligarchic rump state in terminal demographic decline.

Russia's natural population growth has been negative or flat since 2000, which means that overall deaths have outnumbered births. Only 1.27mn babies were born in Russia last year, the lowest number since 2000. The drop in the birth rate echoes the massive drop in the 1990s following the breakup of the Soviet Union

https://www.intellinews.com/bofit-russian-population-in-decline-316095/#:~:text=Russia's%20natural%20population%20growth%20has,breakup%20of%20the%20Soviet%20Union.



A country with a national GDP lower than Texas

As of 2022, Texas's gross domestic product (GDP) was $2,355,959,700,000, which is the second largest in the United States, after California. In the third quarter of 2023, Texas's real GDP was $2.5 trillion in goods and services per year

In 2022, Russia's nominal (current) Gross Domestic Product (GDP) was $2,240,420,000,000 (USD), which is 0.96% of the world economy. Russia's real GDP (constant, inflation adjusted) in 2022 was $1,391,070,000,000, with a GDP growth rate of -2.07%. Russia's GDP per capita in 2022 was $10,169, a decrease of $187 from $10,356 in 2021


Also, the U.S. was the driving engine behind the Soviet Union in world war 2.

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The Red Army doesn’t go no where in WW2 without the arsenal of democracy
 

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I don’t think we should be comparing the emerging superpower of the Soviet Union of 1941 which was an empire in all but name that was facing a war for national survival to the Russian oligarchic rump state in terminal demographic decline.

Russia's natural population growth has been negative or flat since 2000, which means that overall deaths have outnumbered births. Only 1.27mn babies were born in Russia last year, the lowest number since 2000. The drop in the birth rate echoes the massive drop in the 1990s following the breakup of the Soviet Union

https://www.intellinews.com/bofit-russian-population-in-decline-316095/#:~:text=Russia's%20natural%20population%20growth%20has,breakup%20of%20the%20Soviet%20Union.



A country with a national GDP lower than Texas

As of 2022, Texas's gross domestic product (GDP) was $2,355,959,700,000, which is the second largest in the United States, after California. In the third quarter of 2023, Texas's real GDP was $2.5 trillion in goods and services per year

In 2022, Russia's nominal (current) Gross Domestic Product (GDP) was $2,240,420,000,000 (USD), which is 0.96% of the world economy. Russia's real GDP (constant, inflation adjusted) in 2022 was $1,391,070,000,000, with a GDP growth rate of -2.07%. Russia's GDP per capita in 2022 was $10,169, a decrease of $187 from $10,356 in 2021


Also, the U.S. was the driving engine behind the Soviet Union in world war 2.

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The Red Army doesn’t go no where in WW2 without the arsenal of democracy

You’re gonna get into Finland switching sides and England almost declaring war on after Finland bought US air support the USSR as well here ?

The Japanese were subdued and scared by the Soviets.

Back to modern day - how’s democracy in Syria breh ?
 

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You’re gonna get into Finland switching sides and England almost declaring war on after Finland bought US air support the USSR as well here ?

The Japanese were subdued and scared by the Soviets.

Back to modern day - how’s democracy in Syria breh ?
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