Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

[Nkrumah Was Right]

You completely ignored my question. Where could Ukraine have possibly gotten the level of artillery to compete with Russia in that kind of war? It's physically impossible. That artillery doesn't even exist in the West and Russia/China weren't going to be selling.





Interesting hot take. Ukraine has struggled with corruption but I've never seen any objective or quantitative measure that said anything remotely like this. CPI puts them around 122 out of 180.






So you're just going to toss out ad hominem's about people you don't even know? Look at my post history and try and run with that dumb shyt.

Just admit you were wrong about the artillery and KIM.

Wrong about what?

Ukraine didn’t purchase enough artillery and probably sold some of its weaponry to other countries before this war started. Possibly some of the money earmarked for arms were stolen via graft.

You seem very committed to the Ukrainian cause. Why? You’re saying you’re not a Western jingoist?

 

[Carl Tethers]

Wrong about what?

Ukraine didn’t purchase enough artillery and probably sold some of its weaponry to other countries before this war started. Possibly some of the money earmarked for arms were stolen via graft.

You seem very committed to the Ukrainian cause. Why? You’re saying you’re not a Western jingoist?

But Russian jingoism

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

But Russian jingoism

We, as black people, should oppose all forms of imperialism/jingoism. Russian AND American.

 

[Shogun]

Regarding the "inevitable Russian victory"....it seems contradictory to think Russia's victory is inevitable while also believing that America lost in Iraq and Afghanistan. This phase of the war....the invasion....took about a month in Iraq and I think 11 days in Afghanistan (and they were on the other side of the globe). Russia still hasn't hit that mark yet. They were trying with the blitz on Kiev, but fukked that up.

Where America lost was the occupation. Russia hasn't even gotten there yet, but it's safe to say that when they do they're going to have a hell of a time with it.

 

[SnugglesDaBear]

Still, laughing? I told you this war will backfire on the West. One down, more to come.

 

[Carl Tethers]

Still, laughing? I told you this war will backfire on the West. One down, more to come.

 

[Shogun]

Still, laughing? I told you this war will backfire on the West. One down, more to come.

You think this dude resigning is an L for the west?

 

[SnugglesDaBear]

You think this dude resigning is an L for the west?

Yes.

Any type of splintering or weakness in NATO in the middle of this war is a dub for Putin.

 

[Carl Tethers]

Yes.

Any type of splintering or weakness in NATO in the middle of this war is a dub for Putin.

 

[SnugglesDaBear]

UPDATE 2-Russia rejoices over Boris Johnson's downfall: the 'stupid clown' has gone

Russian politicians lined up to celebrate the downfall of Boris Johnson on Thursday, casting the British leader as a "stupid clown" who had finally got his just reward for arming Ukraine against Russia. Johnson, the face of the 2016 Brexit campaign who won a resounding electoral victory in 2019...

finance.yahoo.com

 

[Carl Tethers]

UPDATE 2-Russia rejoices over Boris Johnson's downfall: the 'stupid clown' has gone

Russian politicians lined up to celebrate the downfall of Boris Johnson on Thursday, casting the British leader as a "stupid clown" who had finally got his just reward for arming Ukraine against Russia. Johnson, the face of the 2016 Brexit campaign who won a resounding electoral victory in 2019...

finance.yahoo.com

 

[Shogun]

Yes.

Any type of splintering or weakness in NATO in the middle of this war is a dub for Putin.

Western governments are bigger than one person, and NATO is especially bigger than one person.
The UK, and NATO will carry on without a hitch.

Plus, you'd have to have your head in the sand to think his resigning has anything to do with Ukraine. He has a laundry list of scandals and nonsense...if anything this will strengthen both the UK and NATO.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Wrong about what?

Ukraine didn’t purchase enough artillery

I've asked you the SAME question three times and you've dodged every time. Where the fukk would they have bought the artillery from?

The amount of artillery necessary to compete with Russia on that level doesn't exist anywhere. There's no one to buy it from. Russia has more artillery than all of NATO combined. Outside of Russia, China, and the Korean standoff, literally no one is producing artillery at that level and the ones that have muchof anything ain't going to give it up to Ukraine.

and probably sold some of its weaponry to other countries before this war started. Possibly some of the money earmarked for arms were stolen via graft.

Which you've just blatantly made up without any evidence. You're only support for this claim is "they don't have enough artillery so they must have sold it off" which was already debunked as a stupid, ignorant take.

You seem very committed to the Ukrainian cause. Why? You’re saying you’re not a Western jingoist?

There's an entire thread these last two weeks built on the claim that I'm a Russian stooge who doesn't want Ukrainian victory, but now in this thread I'm a Western jingoist.

Lazy-ass people use unsourced ad hominems every time someone pulls their logically corrupt arguments apart.

 

[Toussaint]

 

[Json]

I really hope this turns the tide cause Ukraine is stuck since they can’t outright attack Russian territory.