Russia's 🇷🇺 Invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇦 (Official Thread)

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Unless this translates into turning into war economies or at the very least increasing their defense budget and spending on each other military industries instead of the US, then it means nothing.
exactly. i don't think europeans are built for this century. too many decades of relying on US defense has made them impotent. you have generations of citizens that don't know what it means to have a real military capable of defending the homeland. money talks and bullshyt walks.
 

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Yes that war needs to end but if it does so with talks then there should be actual negotiations. The US is literrally surrendering to every Russian points legitimizing their expansionism. If Russia loses nothing then in negotiations then it only delays an inevitable full scale war in Europe.
there is no leverage. that moment passed. waiting actually made russia's hand stronger. also, russia cant take europe.
 

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President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says Ukraine won’t enter peace talks with Russia until it has security guarantees against another offensive.



Zelenskyy added Friday’s contentious spat with President Donald Trump was “not good for both sides.”



But Zelenskyy said that Trump — who insists Russian President Vladimir Putin is ready to end the three-year grinding war — needs to understand that Ukraine can’t change attitudes toward Russia on a dime.
 

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NATO crumbles without the US.. but in all honesty.. they might be better off for it. You want allies that you can trust. Could you trust us anymore? I couldn't. Europe should start planning a new NATO.
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U tellin me UK, Germany, France, Italy cant form voltron? Ukraine giving russia Hell dolo
 
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