Ryan Clark vs Peter Schrager

[Harry B]

Rams president jumps in now lol:

This really didn't die immediately and became all this?

This reminds me of Jalen calling Skip "Water Pistol Pete" and the weak ass shyt that followed.

Players can speak on shyt in a way that a non player cannot. Thats why they are there. Players can pull that "you aint play card" but there are limits. You cant just throw it out there every time you get push back or when you are clearly wrong or when its not relevant. A lot of former players use it as a shield for BS because they lack maturity, perspective, understanding and/or the ability to express themselves effectively. Sounds like it was perfectly fair in the context Ryan used it. This Shreger dude really got juice like that?

I think the internet is just tired of this “you’re not a player shyt” cause most of the wack analysts are former players. And so are non-athlete journalists.

It’s like analysts of other things. Some of the best analysts of companies are people who never worked in such companies. They just read a lot about them, and talk to people. It becomes a problem when you’re a player who doesn’t talk to a wide and diverse group of athletes, FO people etc. Who doesn’t read everything about the players. But just rely on “I was an athlete, so I know”. Thats when you get these trash as analysts dudes.

 

[Braman]

RC behavior in this calendar year will be studied in the history books as a guide for how to tank your media career because you decided to be an attention whore

Clark delivers his poibts like he's auditioning for his next job instead of the one he has. I don't think Roland Martin is retiring anytime soon.

It’s easy to forget but remember over a year ago BEFORE this apology tour, when his contract was up there was some type of delay and rumblings, he was off air for a sec, then next thing you know he came back and started hosting

Mind you this is before he started wearing that Prince logo lapel pin He’s definitely moving weird bc he has bigger aspirations. It’s just so inorganic. Some brehs with newfound fame can’t handle it.

 

[Braman]

I'm surprised nobody has posted this, I know what what made Peter Schrager get in his feelings

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He ain't never forget when DeAngelo Williams came on and sonned them

Again this points to a very uncomfortable reality: y’all got some weird ideas of how to handle yourself professionally

He looks RIDICULOUS in this clip. Same as RC, emotional, can’t handle being disagreed with. Not even being funny but these nggas genuinely be having anger issues They been the star of the show they whole life and the only time they haven’t it’s with someone that meets them physically, athletically. They can’t handle intellectual challenges. If you ‘know more’ bc you played, SHOW IT. Orlavsky does. Articulate a perspective that they can’t can’t. It will speak for you. You wouldn’t need to start yellin and gettin mad

 

[K-Apps]

 

[Piff Perkins]

Not to defend Clark, who I think is a fukking loser, but we also gotta talk about WHY so many former players are ass. They are literally trained to be this way. Players take broadcasting classes during and after their careers in order to get a chance at being on ESPN, Fox, etc. And part of that training revolves around getting them to say wild shyt about current players, to shyt on former teammates, etc. The suits feel like a former player criticizing his former team or teammates gives him credibility, and it also gives guys the opportunity to just be dikks. Which is ultimately what ESPN wants from everyone: mindless entertainment and bullshyt to create viral moments and make players react.

I say that to say this...Ryan Clark operates in a world where he is paid to be disingenuous and to speak from authority. The only thing that happened here was that instead of aiming that fire at a player, he aimed it at a media member (who happens to be white btw). I'm not excusing Clark, just saying that bullshyt was a product of the bullshyt ESPN wants from former players.

 

[Still Benefited]

Ryan “Origami” Clark

If you’re not man enough to stand by your opinion keep it to yourself.

This is my only issue with Ryan Clark. Other than that ,i dont see him as "erratic" in any way. He usually tells the truth but ultimately cops pleas because hes a nice guy or likes to be liked. Or likes to tote the line and be polarizing which he does well obviously. Im just not for people telling the truth,they garner support for what they are saying. Then they fold like a cheap suit lol.

Might as well just keep it PG and show teeth like most of them nikkas instead of playing both sides


And alot of yall are putting words in his mouth. He never used the "you didnt play card" that gets used. They werent even in an argument where that card needed to be used. He simply told that pencil necked cac that he wouldnt understand what its like letting your entire team and coaching staff down when youve been paid an enormous salary to be an impact player. Maybe Schraeger will understand after his annoying ass flops on ESPN

 

[Still Benefited]

Not to defend Clark, who I think is a fukking loser, but we also gotta talk about WHY so many former players are ass. They are literally trained to be this way. Players take broadcasting classes during and after their careers in order to get a chance at being on ESPN, Fox, etc. And part of that training revolves around getting them to say wild shyt about current players, to shyt on former teammates, etc. The suits feel like a former player criticizing his former team or teammates gives him credibility, and it also gives guys the opportunity to just be dikks. Which is ultimately what ESPN wants from everyone: mindless entertainment and bullshyt to create viral moments and make players react.

I say that to say this...Ryan Clark operates in a world where he is paid to be disingenuous and to speak from authority. The only thing that happened here was that instead of aiming that fire at a player, he aimed it at a media member (who happens to be white btw). I'm not excusing Clark, just saying that bullshyt was a product of the bullshyt ESPN wants from former players.

Analysis is boring,fans want stories and narratives. Only players can fill in the blanks with these narratives.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Orlovsky, Shannon, and a couple others have pulled the "you didnt play" card on SAS this year alone. Thing is they do it in a better way for the discussion than RC did. They say "I respect you SAS but let me give it to you from a player's perspective" or w/e. SAS will be like "that's why you here, go head, I understand it's stuff yall know/go thru that I'll never understand". RC did that shyt in the worst way possibly to do it. Saying "that's the non player in you" is disrespectful and rude. Especially him saying "it wasnt gonna be about you, it was gonna be about me" so he should just said "As a former player I view it as..." instead of taking a shot at all.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Analysis is boring,fans want stories and narratives. Only players can fill in the blanks with these narratives.

Thing is RC was doing only analysis and it was good as hell. There is a reason ESPN got him and extended his contract. He really only started all this bullshyt with the stupid takes and going at people publicly within the last year or so/little after the reup. I think breh called it right when he said RC got the big head from Pivot being bigger(idk if that's true) and him going viral for hot take shyt.

 

[RedBull]

Orlovsky, Shannon, and a couple others have pulled the "you didnt play" card on SAS this year alone. Thing is they do it in a better way for the discussion than RC did. They say "I respect you SAS but let me give it to you from a player's perspective" or w/e. SAS will be like "that's why you here, go head, I understand it's stuff yall know/go thru that I'll never understand". RC did that shyt in the worst way possibly to do it. Saying "that's the non player in you" is disrespectful and rude. Especially him saying "it wasnt gonna be about you, it was gonna be about me" so he should just said "As a former player I view it as..." instead of taking a shot at all.

As simple as this

Poor articulation that’s it. It’s only an issue because a white man got offended. That’s it. Nothing else.

 

[Still Benefited]

Thing is RC was doing only analysis and it was good as hell. There is a reason ESPN got him and extended his contract. He really only started all this bullshyt with the stupid takes and going at people publicly within the last year or so/little after the reup. I think breh called it right when he said RC got the big head from Pivot being bigger(idk if that's true) and him going viral for hot take shyt.

Sounds like your proving my point. He is good at analysis,but obviously it didnt get the algorithms going. They probably wrote "need more hot takes /controversy" in his new contract .


People dont want to watch nerds break down film and talk about analytics


If that was the case SAS punk ass wouldnt be the highest paid person over there. Because he is literally probably the worst at analysis.

Orlovsky, Shannon, and a couple others have pulled the "you didnt play" card on SAS this year alone. Thing is they do it in a better way for the discussion than RC did. They say "I respect you SAS but let me give it to you from a player's perspective" or w/e. SAS will be like "that's why you here, go head, I understand it's stuff yall know/go thru that I'll never understand". RC did that shyt in the worst way possibly to do it. Saying "that's the non player in you" is disrespectful and rude. Especially him saying "it wasnt gonna be about you, it was gonna be about me" so he should just said "As a former player I view it as..." instead of taking a shot at all.

Thats because Shannon was a big dog too. So SAS tucked his tale for the sake of business. But SAS is constantly disrespectful and them cats dont do nothing but fake laugh it off. I expect Peter Schraeger to do the same when SAS ultimately belittles him. He better keep that same energy with the ESPN don

 

[Still Benefited]

Saying thats the non player in you isnt even disrespectful btw. Its just saying the non player is the reason you dont understand some things go beyond stats/surface level shyt. Doesnt mean the non player portion of Schraeger doesnt have any credibility on other matters. Personally i wouldve told Schraeger to take it how he wanna take it

 

[Piff Perkins]

Thing is RC was doing only analysis and it was good as hell. There is a reason ESPN got him and extended his contract. He really only started all this bullshyt with the stupid takes and going at people publicly within the last year or so/little after the reup. I think breh called it right when he said RC got the big head from Pivot being bigger(idk if that's true) and him going viral for hot take shyt.

THIS. Clark, Orlowski, Swagu, and Mina Kimes were doing the best NFL coverage on ESPN for awhile. Then suddenly Orlowsky pivoted heavily to hot take bullshyt, and Clark followed suit. To me the shift started with the Lamar/Allen MVP fukkery late last season. There was clear bias in the coverage suddenly, and attempts to shyt on one QB in favor of the other similar to the way NBA coverage works on ESPN. Then the draft coverage began and they both were doing the same shyt about Shaedur Sanders v the field. Then a couple weeks ago it shifted to shytting on Arch Manning, with shades of the Shaedur stuff again too. Now its Lamar v Allen again, and if Caleb struggles or excels tonight it's going to be all about Jayden Daniels comparisons.

It's clear somebody got a memo about combative, strong hot takes being preferred by corporate.

 

[In The Zone '98]

Make up your mind people….

do y’all like white people (cacs) or not

Cuz some times I come to coli seeing yall quick to insult someone calling them a CAC and talk shyt about white folk.

Then depending on the black person…. Yall fall off code and start shytting on the black person and defend the cac

This why yall be losing credibility

This wasnt racial

What's there to stand in solidarity with?

 

[heart]

Saying thats the non player in you isnt even disrespectful btw. Its just saying the non player is the reason you dont understand some things go beyond stats/surface level shyt. Doesnt mean the non player portion of Schraeger doesnt have any credibility on other matters. Personally i wouldve told Schraeger to take it how he wanna take it

100% facts...

I have friends who have played in the NFL and when I talk football with them, even though I didn't play at their level, they know I was a starting D-1 player at a football powerhouse so I speak from a perspective of a former player but it does not mean I am always right, same can be said for them.

But when someone who is talking about being in the "trenches" as a observer who I know never played, I have less patience listening to their perspective on things but I have never thrown out the "you never played" card out of respect.

Seems a lot of people who are were up in arms about what Ryan said are some of the same ones who never played football at a high level. It was taken way out of proportion but just could have been worded better for television.