Ryan Coogler & Michael B. Jordan vampire film "Sinners"

[kdslittlebro]

Yea no more cook out invites until further notice

One of the corniest phrases in the culture

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

One of the corniest phrases in the culture

I don't think people realize how corny it sounds when they use it.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

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That’s poor motivation tbh because that could have applied to anyone in that movie.

to you

 

[Trav]

Oh, and she can get it too-----I see why Li Broadie really wanted to get byke in Club Juke

 

[Deafheaven]

10 out of fukking 10 movie.

Goosebumps.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

You hit the nail on the head. Out of all Ryan’s movies, I think this one showed his limitations as a writer more than any before. 3 major scenes stood out to me as clunky and poorly done, that I know most ppl loved

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1. The music time set piece. Completely took me out of the movie. Thought it was corny, campy, and didnt flow at all with the movie before or after. Felt like Ryan just had a vision for it and was gonna put it in regardless. I can dive deeper into why I don’t like it, but overall just as you said, it was disjointed imo.

2. The post credit scene. This was probably the most damaging part of the movie honestly. It makes the vampires way too human. To give Stack the ability to have the self control to listen to Smoke and just leave Sammie alone and live his life with his girl makes it seem like the vampires were right all along. Like what are the actual downsides of being a vampire if your faculties are still with you and you can choose good? Like you’re a soulless, blood thirsty vampire right? If not, we gotta have a discourse lol. Just seemed to step on any type of good vs evil of the vampire vs humans theme. Once again, thought the scene was unnecessary and tacked on and more of Ryan just having a really cool scene he wanted to use vs one really necessary for the overall story.

3. Smoke killing the KKK was just some gratuitous, “I want my Django” moment type shyt. I love seeing some clansman get fukked up in a movie, don’t get me wrong. But this was sooooo forced and goofy that it actually pissed me off. And Coogler is a much better writer than this. Once again this scene felt tacked on, instead of truly woven into the story. Like we got a picture of a clans gown and one sentence from the main vampire of set up. Why would the clansmen not go on a night raid, when the juke would be packed with nikkas, to attack? They wait until morning, when it’s all cleared up? Why? If he wanted this scene, I feel like story wise, he could’ve easily elevated that whole showdown. Instead we just get a cheap, tacked on scene, meant to be a suicide. Disappointing. Lowkey, I feel like Ryan looked ant the movie and was like “damn, we really just killed like 40 nikkas to 3 white ppl. That doesn’t sit well with me. Let’s even it out “.

I dont think its a perfect movie but my breh literally had problems with the best parts of the movie :

1. Music piece.....thats actual experimental filmmaking Thats not poor writing thats a choice thats actually just taking a big swing at something we've never seen before. Doing so invites some people to not dig it. I think they set up everything so well before that when they took that big swing it felt like what something supernatural (no carlos) music would be like. It seems majority love it...even the people who dont love the movie. It be like that sometimes. I

2. I hear you on this part. However,

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vampires were clearly a hive mind under Remmick. He was preaching equality but actually selling control. Remmick wanted Sammie for his own reasons. Its a cheat because we didnt see what happened. He might have made the promise but it wasnt solid until Remmick died. Meaning Stack was going to say whatever to survive just like Remmick when he was desperate to live earlier in the movie.

3. I mean you aint wrong.

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The KKK shooting wasnt as necessary. Maybe the Klan thought they can catch the twins lacking tired in the morning. Knowing they gangsters it seems you'd think they'd have fire arms ready if needed at night. But who am I to get Klanology .

However, your problems werent issues or at least deal breakers for me. To me the issue is clearly

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once the vampires get in the barn. Also in character....Smoke from earlier probably smokes her ass for even risking it as well

 

[Rasille]

Movie was fire

 

[Lefty Gunz]

This could've just been a fire movie about gangster brothers returning home to Jim Crow Mississippi. The horror element was the icing on top

Ryan Coogler...

 

[GR13]

the first "black" From Dusk Till Dawn

 

[Sbp]

She the GOAT

She did an excellent job

 

[Wayans Brehs]

Glad I ended up seeing this movie. I wasnt sure what to expect going in, I just wanted to go off the strength of Coogler and MBJ. Great movie, well worth that IMAX admission

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Oh, and she can get it too-----I see why Li Broadie really wanted to get byke in Club Juke

Ling Li Chong ain’t got no azz. Not even enough to pinch.

 

[Deafheaven]

IDK how anyone can say MBJ was monotone in this movie, what were you watching?

 

[StackorStarve]

Great movie. They didn’t even need the vampires tbh. It could’ve just been that white girl’s husband finding out where she was and rallying the klan but it was well done.

 

[Killmongerplaycousin]

It was alright and enjoyable but I think that the whole original ip is saving cinema shyt ain’t it. A lot of people in my theater went into this expecting Get out and got Us instead.

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The character pacing and motivations were too scrambled during the juke joint scenes at times. The vampires was on bullshyt time, the whole hitting a jig on em, knocking on the door, killing people, monologing then retreating cycle got boring. Coogler reminds me a lot of Barry Jenkins, okay writing with basic cinematography and no visual style. Coogler can’t do action well at all, that klan scene at the end should have been an alleyopp to top that Django Candyland shootout. I think Coogler needs to stick with his co-writer Joe Robert Cole. That mid-end credit scene was straight up bull shyt, Michael and Hallie popped out in some damn Call of Duty skins, the epilogue was way too long, and that we are the world poc shyt don’t feel genuine because those relationships are nowhere near authentic. Yakubs who hate just doing their usual

Still a decent flick and still supporting bruh.
Delroy did his thing

I give it a 17 out of 23