Marquez got robbed in the third fight with PacquiaoJMM went in juiced to the max looking to hurt Manny
Ryan Garcia tests positive for banned PED Ostarine in VADA test following Devin Haney fight
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Knicksman20
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Where is the evidenced he juiced, though? - Do you really have to ask this? How many NFL/UFC/MLB players have never tested positive but chances are, they're on PEDS? Use common sense & if you really KNOW Manny's history, then you'd suspect not unless you're Pinnoy lol
He did not maintain his power - No boxer naturally can go from 105lbs to 147lbs & still be elite w/o taking drugs. There's weight classes for a reason; especially at those lower weights where 3lbs separates some of them. Manny might not have been one shotting guys but he dropped Sugar Shane. When was the last time Sugar Shane was dropped? Vernon Forrest (a 6ft Welterweight) laid a beat down & damn near decapitated him with an uppercut & he had never been down or even hurt before or since till Manny. Shane has one of the best chins in boxing history but Manny hit him so damn hard he said in an interview he didn't remember the next several rounds & "woke up" in the middle of the fight
Tommy Hearns was an 6'1 Welterweight freak of nature. Have you seen how he was built? Dude's back was massive & you could look at his frame & know he could handle the extra pounds & move up in weight. I'm not taking shots at you but this is why I think you don't know boxing as well as you think. Hearns power came from the crazy leverage he got on his shots with that "snap" at the end of his punches. His jab also blinded guys & then the right hand would come down the middle & would literally shock you where you weren't prepared to take that shot. That Duran KO comes to mind where he executed that perfect.
Did you know Roy either tested positive for Androstenedione & had crazy elevated levels of testosterone in his fight against Richard Hall (who also tested positive) back in 2000? Roy was taking Ripped Fuel which you could get from your local GNC but looking at it now, you never know & I think Roy is the greatest fighter I've ever seen.
SRL is 5'10/5'11 & his frame could handle the extra weight but what happened when he moved up & aged. He got hit way more than he ever did & even was dropped. Have you seen high fight against Donny Lalonde at LHW? That's what naturally happens as you age & move up with weight. You don't magically get stronger, faster, have more stamina, & still have an amazing chin when you're fighting naturally way bigger guys. That would be like Sugar Ray Robinson going to Cruiserweight from 147 & not only keeping his speed/stamina but he be hurting & dropping those guys & be a top 3 guy in the class in his 30's. Not to mention those same guys hitting him aren't hurting or dropping him either
@Knicksman20 I appreciate the well thought out post and knowledge. The Tommy Hearns post was pointless condescension. I am from Detroit and personally know OG's who sparred at Kronk with Tommy. I know Tommys career inside and out. Why are you comparing a washed up, 40 year old Mosley to the one who was No.1 PFP in the world?
Knicksman20
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If you can't even understand the basics of how good Shane's chin was, the times he was hurt, & who hurt him, then there's no need to discuss this further
If youre comparing a washed up Shane, who at the point was a jobber to the stars.. to a prime, PFP No. 1 Shane, youre right...there is no need to go further. Im done with this convo.
Brandon M.
City of Angels
they was talking about cocaine b
CAM OR MA$E HINTED AT PEDS
IN THE ROY JONES INTERVIEW
AFTER THAT FIGHT TOOK PLACE
Rigby.
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This is why I didn't understand when brehs just shrugged off him betting on himself. Dude got paid after acting like a fiend on Twitter for months, not GAF about meeting weight, and juicing. And this is all against a dude that's a pathetic puncher. He basically had no chance to lose
Piff Huxtable
Delaney 2020,2024,2028...
will they change the fight to a no contest?
NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
He still had absurd power, those guys aside from Clottey (who threw the fight and stayed in a shell) got beat to shreds/were bothered by the power compared to what they faced from bigger guys. Bradley has one of the goat chins. IMO he stopped juicing before the Floyd fight.
NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
Both were juicedJMM went in juiced to the max looking to hurt Manny
Knicksman20
Superstar
That's what this dude refuses to acknowledge. No one at WW was running up on Manny not respecting his power which is unheard of for someone moving up in weight like he did. He was still hurting & dropping fighters. And to put it in perspective, his first fight at 147 was against De La Hoya in 2008. 5 years before that in 2003, he was fighting at 126lbs.........
GnauzBookOfRhymes
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He knew he would never beat any of the top guys so it’s either a career of folding bug fights and eventually falling off, or creating a new persona of being the guy everyone loves to hate and more than likely fighting exhibition style fights and becoming a full time public persona.
Absurd power is overrexaggerrating. Absurd power is Joe Louis, George Foreman, Mike Tyson, Tommy Hearns..Clottey shelled up alot, though. He blew the fight to Cotto doing rhe same thing.he was overwhelmed by the output. That man stopped Cotto in 2009 and went eons before his next stoppage. Does Bradley have one of the goat chins? He got hurt vs Pacquiolao and Provodinkov on multiple occasions. Everyone post Cotto must have had titanium chins because he waant stoppibg any of them.