Ryan Tannehill still over/under-throwing Mike Wallace (:trash:)

[godkiller]

I'm starting to think this dude is . I first noticed Tannehill's deep throwing troubles when he faced the Jets last year and blew a deep TD to Wallace. Now I see he was below league average throwing deep to Mike Wallace all of last season. With little to no pressure, Tannehill should be able to get a wide open Wallace the ball in stride for a TD. For whatever reason Ryan can't do it. He regularly misses a wide open Mike Wallace in ways Big Ben does not:






In recent OTAs Tannehill over/underthrew Wallace again:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Tannehill overthrows Wallace on deep route. Seen this before.</p>&mdash; Armando Salguero (@ArmandoSalguero) <a href="">May 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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@heisenburrr , your boy is starting to worry me.

 

[FaTaL]

 

[yseJ]

Im not a huge fan of tannehill, but that video doesnt really illustrate the point well. some of the balls are good enough variety, a couple of throws shouldnt have been made at all (ie first one), but overall doesnt seem out of the ordinary for an average qb deep throwing

if thats lowlights for my qb throwing deep, I can live with it

 

[godkiller]

Miami

Miami will be looking for a new QB come next year. Bank on it . The new coaching staff is likely switching to a West Coast system because of Tannerhill's limitations. The dude has a big arm but lacks the necessary skill to thread the ball deep and on time.

 

[yseJ]

Miami


Miami will be looking for a new QB come next year. Bank on it . The new coaching staff is likely switching to a West Coast system because of Tannerhill's limitations. The dude has a big arm but lacks the necessary skill to thread the ball deep and on time.

if Im Miami Im getting rid of mike wallace before tannehill. tannehill stil has like two years on his contract + possible franchise tag for year after, at very cheap.

mike wallace is a one-trick pony WR whos severely overpaid for no particular reason.

 

[godkiller]

Im not a huge fan of tannehill, but that video doesnt really illustrate the point well. some of the balls are good enough variety,

I don't understand this point. The question is not whether the balls are of a good enough variety (what does this even mean?), the question is whether they represent good ball placement and aren't over/underthrows. Virtually every deep attempt in the above video is an over/underthrow, including the first one. Wallace's job as a deep threat is to get seperation, and he does his job. It is henceforth Tannehill's job to throw a good ball.

a couple of throws shouldnt have been made at all (ie first one), but overall doesnt seem out of the ordinary for an average qb deep throwing

The first throw was ill advised into deep double coverage, but Tannehill had room to step into the throw and put deep left where only Wallace can make a play. I'll concede that the throw is difficult under the best conditions, but making it is possible and even discounting this throw, the other attempts in this video represent missed opportunities for Tannehill and Maimi.

if thats lowlights for my qb throwing deep, I can live with it

Tannehill's completion and interception rate to Wallace going deep are both below average. I'd be incensed with my QB if he couldn't get the ball to my wide open deep threat. Lack of ability cost Miami games last year and contributed to Sherman's firing.

 

[FaTaL]

mike wallace is a one-trick pony WR whos severely overpaid for no particular reason.

speed speed speed

whats the point of spending money on a wallace when your qb has a the deep accuracy of a blind man?

 

[yseJ]

I don't understand this point. The question is not whether the balls are of a good enough variety (what does this even mean?), the question is whether they represent good ball placement and aren't over/underthrows. Virtually every deep attempt in the above video is an over/underthrow, including the first one. Wallace's job as a deep threat is to get seperation, and he does his job. It is henceforth Tannehill's job to throw a good ball.

the point is that there isnt any qb in the league who is always on point with his throws, 100% of time. guys like rodgers miss deep throws by a lot too, and guys with cannons like flacco and kaep also miss a lot of these throws, blatantly.
a lot of those throws in the video (Im only speaking about the video) were only slightly off and wallace was able to make the catch

The first throw was ill advised into deep double coverage, but Tannehill had room to step into the throw and put deep left where only Wallace can make a play. I'll concede that the throw is difficult under the best conditions, but making it is possible and even discounting this throw, the other attempts in this video represent missed opportunities for Tannehill and Maimi.

a GREAT qb makes that throw maybe once out of 10 tries. the throw simply wasnt supposed to be made and great qb actually just looks for another option there. there was nothing, safety had control of the route and there was good coverage underneath

Tannehill's completion and interception rate to Wallace going deep are both below average. I'd be incensed with my QB if he couldn't get the ball to my wide open deep threat. Lack of ability cost Miami games last year and contributed to Sherman's firing.

all Im saying that video doesnt illustrate that

 

[Jax]

But Tebow unnemployed
Play like a Black QB and get unemployed brehs

 

[godkiller]

if Im Miami Im getting rid of mike wallace before tannehill. tannehill stil has like two years on his contract + possible franchise tag for year after, at very cheap.

mike wallace is a one-trick pony WR whos severely overpaid for no particular reason.

While Wallace is arguably a "one trick pony", he has almost perfected his one trick. The over/underthrows aren't Wallace's fault. These are deep throws from the Cleveland vs. Miami game last year:

 

[yseJ]

speed speed speed

whats the point of spending money on a wallace when your qb has a the deep accuracy of a blind man?

pure speed is overrated as fukk

there was no point spending THAT kind on wallace anyway. I think teams are getting the memo as desean was forced to sign for less than that.
pure speed just isnt that important for a NFL WR to overpay for.

 

[JayStarwind]

That's Tannehill da gawd you're talking about.

His deep ball really isn't the issue imo, its more of him hesitating to throw the ball.

He did leave about 5 TD's and cost us 2-3 games though

 

[JayStarwind]

Miami


Miami will be looking for a new QB come next year. Bank on it . The new coaching staff is likely switching to a West Coast system because of Tannerhill's limitations. The dude has a big arm but lacks the necessary skill to thread the ball deep and on time.

They've been running one since 2012

The WCO is based on short-to-intermediate throws that eventually lead to deep throws. The only way the Dolphins replace Tannehill is if he regresses from last year and I can't see that happening.

 

[godkiller]

the point is that there isnt any qb in the league who is always on point with his throws, 100% of time. guys like rodgers miss deep throws by a lot too, and guys with cannons like flacco and kaep also miss a lot of these throws, blatantly.
a lot of those throws in the video (Im only speaking about the video) were only slightly off and wallace was able to make the catch

I never said that Tannehill or any QB has to be "on point" with their throws 100% of the time. But they must at least be able to complete deep passes to wide open receivers.

a GREAT qb makes that throw maybe once out of 10 tries. the throw simply wasnt supposed to be made and great qb actually just looks for another option there. there was nothing, safety had control of the route and there was good coverage underneath

I already conceded the throw is difficult under the best conditions. But even discounting it from a review of Tannehill's deep throw ability, he is still sub par.

all Im saying that video doesnt illustrate that

Actually it does, and there is more evidence to corroborate the video's assertions. The follow chronicles Tannehill's deep attempt efforts to Wallace in Week 5 against Baltimore:

 

[FaTaL]

pure speed is overrated as fukk

there was no point spending THAT kind on wallace anyway. I think teams are getting the memo as desean was forced to sign for less than that.
pure speed just isnt that important for a NFL WR to overpay for.

it is when your other wrs arnt fast. watch how much the eagles offense suffers this year. teams werent able to stack the deck to stop the run because they always had to keep a safety over desean. that extra safety is in the box this year