Ryan Tannehill still over/under-throwing Mike Wallace (:trash:)

[yseJ]

While Wallace is arguably a "one trick pony", he has almost perfected his one trick. The over/underthrows aren't Wallace's fault. These are deep throws from the Cleveland vs. Miami game last year:

I dont understand this analysis at all. I disagree that safety is out of position in the last one. the second one is overthrown in one on one situation. thats an overthrow that is extremely common. peyton manning committed a mirror overthrow against sherman in the SB...no one ever talks about it

a ball one on one against haden is poor decision making if anything. I wouldnt force the ball there against haden, even if I had a much better receiver than wallace.

 

[godkiller]

That's Tannehill da gawd you're talking about.

His deep ball really isn't the issue imo, its more of him hesitating to throw the ball.

He did leave about 5 TD's and cost us 2-3 games though

I'm a Jets fans so I'm looking forward to picking off your bummy QB next season

 

[JayStarwind]

I'm a Jets fans so I'm looking forward to picking off your bummy QB next season

The Jets? Fukk yall

 

[yseJ]

I never said that Tannehill or any QB has to be "on point" with their throws 100% of the time. But they must at least be able to complete deep passes to wide open receivers.

maybe elite qbs. non-elite qbs arent expected to complete deep passes all the time. like Ive said, half of the video isnt convincing at all, theres like maybe one or two instances where wallace is WIDE OPEN

my point is if you focus on lowlights, I can show you dozens of instances of kaep overthrowing VD or boldin, or flacco overthrowing torrey

or alex smith overthrowing everyone

 

[godkiller]

I dont understand this analysis at all. I disagree that safety is out of position in the last one.

If the throw is where it's supposed to be, the safety is in a poor position to make a play on it. The CB is beat. The off-throw is Tannehill's fault.

the second one is overthrown in one on one situation. thats an overthrow that is extremely common. peyton manning committed a mirror overthrow against sherman in the SB...no one ever talks about it

The throw isn't horrible but the failure is just another indictment of Ryan Tannehill's inability to connect deep with wide open receivers.

a ball one on one against haden is poor decision making if anything. I wouldnt force the ball there against haden, even if I had a much better receiver than wallace.

If Tannehill doesn't underthrow the ball, the likelihood of Wallace making the catch increases. QBs are taught to overthrow deep to decrease the chance of an interception. Tannehill underthrows the ball in a 1v1 situation that Wallace likely wins in the event of a better throw.

 

[JayStarwind]

As far as the overthrows and underthrows from Tannehill, he never really had a chance to work on it in his rookie season. He had no speed, no outside threat, nothing in 2012 but Brian Hartline and Davone Bess. You can't just magically expect for a 2nd year QB with a laughable OL and no run game to connect with Wallace like Ben(10 year vet) did.

If the new offensive coordinator (Philly's previous QB coach) can't fix some of his issues, pocket presence/deep ball accuracy/checkdowns, then Tannehill is getting thrown in the bushes along with Joe Philbin. I'm optimistic though and see him having a 26 TD 13 INT year.

 

[heisenburrr]

Let's see what he does under a new offense this year.

Having Mike Sherman as your OC for most of your career will limit a quarterback's growth.

Bill Lazor has done wonders for Nick Foles so there are some reasons for optimism

 

[Carlos Huerta]

Im not a huge fan of tannehill, but that video doesnt really illustrate the point well. some of the balls are good enough variety, a couple of throws shouldnt have been made at all (ie first one), but overall doesnt seem out of the ordinary for an average qb deep throwing

if thats lowlights for my qb throwing deep, I can live with it

A lot of those are missed TDs. In the NFL, one score can mean the difference in a season.

 

[Ain't That Something]

Watching tannerhill throw deep to wallace was so frustrating last year simply on how bad those missed touch down opportunities throws were

Then the fukk boy would turn around ad throw a perfect 5-7 yard pass to fukking hartline on third and 10

 

[yseJ]

A lot of those are missed TDs. In the NFL, one score can mean the difference in a season.

I dont see what you dont understand.
show me a non-elite qb and Ill show you plenty of throws deep that they have missed.

here's all matt ryan deep passes in 2012, literally first video that popped up.


now watch and see how many underthrown and overthrown deep passes are committed

count them, then make a lowlights video.
it will look as 'bad' as tannenhill video, if not worse, since matt ryan had much better WRs

I watch NFL film for fun, and I see tons of passes being missed, even by the elite top 4 qbs, not to mention any tier below

 

[yseJ]

If the throw is where it's supposed to be, the safety is in a poor position to make a play on it. The CB is beat. The off-throw is Tannehill's fault.



The throw isn't horrible but the failure is just another indictment of Ryan Tannehill's inability to connect deep with wide open receivers.



If Tannehill doesn't underthrow the ball, the likelihood of Wallace making the catch increases. QBs are taught to overthrow deep to decrease the chance of an interception. Tannehill underthrows the ball in a 1v1 situation that Wallace likely wins in the event of a better throw.

meh I just disagree with pretty much every point there, I disagree that any WRs there are classified as wide open in that analysis still, and overall. Ill guess we'll have to agree to disagree

Im not knocking any argument outside of that video, but the video isnt that appalling as yall make it out to be, imo. like Ive said, you can make videos as bad about flacco, ryan, kaep, etc etc

 

[Alexander The Great]

hopefully the fins suck this year and get the number 1 draft pick

 

[954UAlreadyknow]

hopefully the fins suck this year and get the number 1 draft pick

yea right we'll suck but be good enough to just miss the playoofs like usual

 

[godkiller]

Let's see what he does under a new offense this year.

Having Mike Sherman as your OC for most of your career will limit a quarterback's growth.

Bill Lazor has done wonders for Nick Foles so there are some reasons for optimism

I agree with this assertion. I think Foles' success has more to do with Chip Kelly's practices than Lazor's influence, but if Lazor can incorporate some of Kelly's urgency to Tannehill's game, he'll get better. However I don't know what to think of Tannehill's time as a WR. It might be an indictment of his
potential, for better or worse.

Tannehill is HUGE:

 

[godkiller]

meh I just disagree with pretty much every point there, I disagree that any WRs there are classified as wide open in that analysis still, and overall. Ill guess we'll have to agree to disagree

It's absurd you can disagree with every point without offering any rebuttal and still maintain credibility on this issue. What do you define as an "open" receiver in the NFL? What do you call "seperation"? I think we need a reasonable understanding of your thought process so that we know whether your points have any bearing.

Im not knocking any argument outside of that video, but the video isnt that appalling as yall make it out to be, imo. like Ive said, you can make videos as bad about flacco, ryan, kaep, etc etc

Flacco and Kaepernick don't have problems throwing deep. Ryan is a savant in the mid to intermediate range. Big Ben didn't either when Mike Wallace was his best weapon. I believe in Tannehill but let's not think his problem throwing deep shouldn't be addressed.

The Jets? Fukk yall

Geno knocked yall out of the playoffs. If all goes right we'll be in the playoffs next year and the Fins won't