Rza's production on Supreme Clientele
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u mad son?
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This can be said about all the great Wu albums. Liquid Swordz/OB4CL/Ironman/Supreme Clientele
Put your headphones on loud and zone out the music, you will hear parts of the song youve never heard before ... every time you listen to it. It blew my mind listening to the beat for Ghost Deini high for the first time, check the scratches and vocal samples in the background, shyt is creepy as fukk, RZA had to have been dusted
The bleeping noise in the background of Grain made me wonder if I was actually hearing it or going crazy, RZA is the king at that shyt.
And Stroke of Death
. How the fukk do you even come up with the idea to make a beat like this, and how did they even manage to flow over it 
yeah but for me i cant listen to alotta shyt fukked upThis can be said about all the great Wu albums. Liquid Swordz/OB4CL/Ironman/Supreme Clientele
Put your headphones on loud and zone out the music, you will hear parts of the song youve never heard before ... every time you listen to it. It blew my mind listening to the beat for Ghost Deini high for the first time, check the scratches and vocal samples in the background, shyt is creepy as fukk, RZA had to have been dusted
The bleeping noise in the background of Grain made me wonder if I was actually hearing it or going crazy, RZA is the king at that shyt.
And Stroke of Death
i got like 3 albums that stay in my "high rotation" illmatic, fishcale, and wrath of the math
i cant just listen to any ol shyt when im high and feel this enlightened lol
dont mean i dont love other albums is just some shyt when im zoned out i like more than others dig?
ghost, the rza pcp..My tape stay at the beginning cause that's how they rewind
Superb's influence on this album was huge
Perb chimed in but let's not give that dude some major credit.
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Dapping this as i have nothing but respect for your 3 albums in high rotation
Peep Ogc da storm if you havent already
had a homeboy in soundview back in the day all he would say is, "like Montell... Jordan, im givin em warnings. you keep that shyt up and nikkas'll be cavin ya walls in!"Dapping this as i have nothing but respect for your 3 albums in high rotation
Peep Ogc da storm if you havent already
yo i swear he would just say that shyt for no reason and "i got land in Switzterland. even got sands in the Marylands. Mohammads in the Springs!"
had a homeboy in soundview back in the day all he would say is, "like Montell... Jordan, im givin em warnings. you keep that shyt up and nikkas'll be cavin ya walls in!"
yo i swear he would just say that shyt for no reason and "i got land in Switzterland. even got sands in the Marylands. Mohammads in the Springs!"
one cat I know would always say "sometimes I feel... like a motherless child!" at random. shyt would have us dying.
When you go into the production of this album, you have to put a few things in context:
1) It was a sample heavy album in an era when the sample was dead. The sound of the last couple years had switched to keyboard with Swizz, Timbaland, Beats by the Pound & others being the dominant sounds in hip-hop. Then Ghost comes through with an unapologetically sample-heavy album flipping the game and inspiring Kanye, Just Blaze & more for the sound of the next half decade.
And remember that this was even marketed as a throwback sample-based album as the promo tape had the Break Beatz interludes as exclusives:
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01 Apollo Kids
02 Fish
03 Break Beatz 1
04 Ice Water
05 Mighty Healthy
06 Verbal Intercourse
07 Break Beatz 2
08 All That I Got Is You
09 Cobrah Clutch
10 260
11 Break Beatz 3
12 Wildflower
13 One
Break Beatz 1 being a snippet of The Grain and 2 & 3 being combined for later mixtapes as Milkcrates
2) The crafting of an album. Ghost & RZA collected tons of beats and Ghost picked & chose what he wanted for the final product and RZA shaped it from there. This was again coming in an era where a ton of differentproducers on every album was becoming the standard & usually the albums suffered for it b/c they were sounding like random compilations than whole crafted albums. Here, RZA & Ghost grabbed up beats from all over and whittled down to what specifically fit the sound, voice & mood of the project. There are a ton of different sounds on here but they all sound uniquely Ghostface & Wu and they work well together and it flows as an album. This album was a co-production of RZA & Ghost completely and they both need to be recognized equally in what defined Supreme Clientele's sound.
3) The blessing of the Canadian version. For whatever reason, an early version of Supreme Clientele made it to the Canadian Sony factories and they pumped out that version w/ the American version's booklet & the American version had the Canadian booklet and everyone is wondering what's up with all these songs I don't have? For anyone wondering, full tracklist of SC Maple Leaf:
Canadian Version:
01. Nutmeg feat RZA (prod by Black Moes-Art)
02. One feat TMF (prod by JuJu)
03. Saturday Nite/Impossible verse rerecorded feat Tekitha/Iron's Theme feat RZA (prod by Carlos "Six July Broady"/RZA & 4th Disciple/RZA)
04. In The Rain feat The Dramatics (prod by Ron Banks)
05. Mighty Healthy (prod by Allah Mathematics)
06. Apollo Kids feat Raekwon/Clyde Smith skit w/ Raekwon (prod by Hassan)
07. Buck 50 feat Meth, Cappa & Redman/Stroke of Death feat Solomon Childs & RZA/ Woodrow The Basehead skit w/o background music (prod by RZA/RZA)
08. Deck's Beat feat 60 Second Assassin (prod by Deck, duh)
09. G-Dini feat Superb (prod by Blaquesmiths)
10. Malcolm (prod by Choo "The Specializt")
11. We Made It feat Superb, Chip Banks & Hell Razah/ Who Would You fukk skit (prod by Carlos "Six July" Broady/RZA)
12. Child's Play w/o beat switch (prod by RZA)
13. Cherchez La Ghost feat U-God & Madame Majestic (prod by C12)
14. Wu-Banga 101 w/o last Ghost verse feat GZA, Raekwon, Cappa & Masta/Iron's Theme feat RZA (prod by Allah Mathematics/RZA)
so, as you see, it's a different vibe & feel on the Canadian version w/ tracks mashed together, rearranged, different beats, different songs, etc... and lets you know how finely crafted that final version was, even though stuff on the Canadian version is dope like In The Rain or the b*stards beat version of Ghost Deini or the novelty of Ghost re-spitting his verse from Impossible (with the announcer stopping the album for "one of the illest verses of all time"). It's a cool look inside the process of finishing off an album and backing instrumentals to skits, and adding beat-switches & arranging tracks that you rarely get to see.
On top of that, you have other cuts from the SC sessions like the aforementioned Milkcrates/Break Beatz:
the classick Cobra Clutch:
Windpipe feat RZA & ODB was originally for SC as well but I agree with pulling it off as it wouldn't fit on the album:
Cherchez La Ghost had remixes w/ extra Ghost verses both over the original beat & this version:
And there was an alternate version of In the Rain/Wise w/ Stevie J & Mr. Dalvin that only surfaced on a DJ Green Lantern tape
and, on top of that, here's a barbershop skit cut from Supreme Clientele that was on a Razor Sharp sampler tape from 2000:
http://lavishbungalows.com/post/37213398875/ghostface-killah-watch-how-you-cut-my-shyt
and I still want to hear "Iron Vacation" unless it just turned into another track (like Ghostbond = Apollo Kids)
But overall, through all this process, you see what work it took to take the time to assemble, arrange & form and, when samples didn't clear, reform this album into the production classic it was, is and will remain.
1) It was a sample heavy album in an era when the sample was dead. The sound of the last couple years had switched to keyboard with Swizz, Timbaland, Beats by the Pound & others being the dominant sounds in hip-hop. Then Ghost comes through with an unapologetically sample-heavy album flipping the game and inspiring Kanye, Just Blaze & more for the sound of the next half decade.
- Kanye
And remember that this was even marketed as a throwback sample-based album as the promo tape had the Break Beatz interludes as exclusives:
01 Apollo Kids
02 Fish
03 Break Beatz 1
04 Ice Water
05 Mighty Healthy
06 Verbal Intercourse
07 Break Beatz 2
08 All That I Got Is You
09 Cobrah Clutch
10 260
11 Break Beatz 3
12 Wildflower
13 One
Break Beatz 1 being a snippet of The Grain and 2 & 3 being combined for later mixtapes as Milkcrates
2) The crafting of an album. Ghost & RZA collected tons of beats and Ghost picked & chose what he wanted for the final product and RZA shaped it from there. This was again coming in an era where a ton of differentproducers on every album was becoming the standard & usually the albums suffered for it b/c they were sounding like random compilations than whole crafted albums. Here, RZA & Ghost grabbed up beats from all over and whittled down to what specifically fit the sound, voice & mood of the project. There are a ton of different sounds on here but they all sound uniquely Ghostface & Wu and they work well together and it flows as an album. This album was a co-production of RZA & Ghost completely and they both need to be recognized equally in what defined Supreme Clientele's sound.
3) The blessing of the Canadian version. For whatever reason, an early version of Supreme Clientele made it to the Canadian Sony factories and they pumped out that version w/ the American version's booklet & the American version had the Canadian booklet and everyone is wondering what's up with all these songs I don't have? For anyone wondering, full tracklist of SC Maple Leaf:
Canadian Version:
01. Nutmeg feat RZA (prod by Black Moes-Art)
02. One feat TMF (prod by JuJu)
03. Saturday Nite/Impossible verse rerecorded feat Tekitha/Iron's Theme feat RZA (prod by Carlos "Six July Broady"/RZA & 4th Disciple/RZA)
04. In The Rain feat The Dramatics (prod by Ron Banks)
05. Mighty Healthy (prod by Allah Mathematics)
06. Apollo Kids feat Raekwon/Clyde Smith skit w/ Raekwon (prod by Hassan)
07. Buck 50 feat Meth, Cappa & Redman/Stroke of Death feat Solomon Childs & RZA/ Woodrow The Basehead skit w/o background music (prod by RZA/RZA)
08. Deck's Beat feat 60 Second Assassin (prod by Deck, duh)
09. G-Dini feat Superb (prod by Blaquesmiths)
10. Malcolm (prod by Choo "The Specializt")
11. We Made It feat Superb, Chip Banks & Hell Razah/ Who Would You fukk skit (prod by Carlos "Six July" Broady/RZA)
12. Child's Play w/o beat switch (prod by RZA)
13. Cherchez La Ghost feat U-God & Madame Majestic (prod by C12)
14. Wu-Banga 101 w/o last Ghost verse feat GZA, Raekwon, Cappa & Masta/Iron's Theme feat RZA (prod by Allah Mathematics/RZA)
so, as you see, it's a different vibe & feel on the Canadian version w/ tracks mashed together, rearranged, different beats, different songs, etc... and lets you know how finely crafted that final version was, even though stuff on the Canadian version is dope like In The Rain or the b*stards beat version of Ghost Deini or the novelty of Ghost re-spitting his verse from Impossible (with the announcer stopping the album for "one of the illest verses of all time"). It's a cool look inside the process of finishing off an album and backing instrumentals to skits, and adding beat-switches & arranging tracks that you rarely get to see.
On top of that, you have other cuts from the SC sessions like the aforementioned Milkcrates/Break Beatz:
the classick Cobra Clutch:
Windpipe feat RZA & ODB was originally for SC as well but I agree with pulling it off as it wouldn't fit on the album:
Cherchez La Ghost had remixes w/ extra Ghost verses both over the original beat & this version:
And there was an alternate version of In the Rain/Wise w/ Stevie J & Mr. Dalvin that only surfaced on a DJ Green Lantern tape
and, on top of that, here's a barbershop skit cut from Supreme Clientele that was on a Razor Sharp sampler tape from 2000:
http://lavishbungalows.com/post/37213398875/ghostface-killah-watch-how-you-cut-my-shyt
and I still want to hear "Iron Vacation" unless it just turned into another track (like Ghostbond = Apollo Kids)
But overall, through all this process, you see what work it took to take the time to assemble, arrange & form and, when samples didn't clear, reform this album into the production classic it was, is and will remain.
Grand Eeezus Maxwell
"Time is when, God....lounge!!"
He did "Buck 50" and "Stroke Of Death" as well.
@BuddahMAC great post homie. I love reading about anything SC.
Prior to SC, I was a Method Man fan. After SC, I became a Wu-tang fan.
SC is potent ass shyt. While we're at it, this is one of my favorite RZA beats ever. Also an unreleased Ghostface song:
I love how grimy yet peaceful it is.
Prior to SC, I was a Method Man fan. After SC, I became a Wu-tang fan.
SC is potent ass shyt. While we're at it, this is one of my favorite RZA beats ever. Also an unreleased Ghostface song:
I love how grimy yet peaceful it is.
I am used to the Canadian version..the sequence sounds better IMO.
