Damn 
Ghost was completely right about "One" 
verse still gets talked about often
Ghost was completely right about "One" verse still gets talked about often
Rza's production on Supreme Clientele
- Thread starter mr. smoke weed
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When you go into the production of this album, you have to put a few things in context:
1) It was a sample heavy album in an era when the sample was dead. The sound of the last couple years had switched to keyboard with Swizz, Timbaland, Beats by the Pound & others being the dominant sounds in hip-hop. Then Ghost comes through with an unapologetically sample-heavy album flipping the game and inspiring Kanye, Just Blaze & more for the sound of the next half decade.
- Kanye
And remember that this was even marketed as a throwback sample-based album as the promo tape had the Break Beatz interludes as exclusives:
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01 Apollo Kids
02 Fish
03 Break Beatz 1
04 Ice Water
05 Mighty Healthy
06 Verbal Intercourse
07 Break Beatz 2
08 All That I Got Is You
09 Cobrah Clutch
10 260
11 Break Beatz 3
12 Wildflower
13 One
Break Beatz 1 being a snippet of The Grain and 2 & 3 being combined for later mixtapes as Milkcrates
2) The crafting of an album. Ghost & RZA collected tons of beats and Ghost picked & chose what he wanted for the final product and RZA shaped it from there. This was again coming in an era where a ton of differentproducers on every album was becoming the standard & usually the albums suffered for it b/c they were sounding like random compilations than whole crafted albums. Here, RZA & Ghost grabbed up beats from all over and whittled down to what specifically fit the sound, voice & mood of the project. There are a ton of different sounds on here but they all sound uniquely Ghostface & Wu and they work well together and it flows as an album. This album was a co-production of RZA & Ghost completely and they both need to be recognized equally in what defined Supreme Clientele's sound.
3) The blessing of the Canadian version. For whatever reason, an early version of Supreme Clientele made it to the Canadian Sony factories and they pumped out that version w/ the American version's booklet & the American version had the Canadian booklet and everyone is wondering what's up with all these songs I don't have? For anyone wondering, full tracklist of SC Maple Leaf:
Canadian Version:
01. Nutmeg feat RZA (prod by Black Moes-Art)
02. One feat TMF (prod by JuJu)
03. Saturday Nite/Impossible verse rerecorded feat Tekitha/Iron's Theme feat RZA (prod by Carlos "Six July Broady"/RZA & 4th Disciple/RZA)
04. In The Rain feat The Dramatics (prod by Ron Banks)
05. Mighty Healthy (prod by Allah Mathematics)
06. Apollo Kids feat Raekwon/Clyde Smith skit w/ Raekwon (prod by Hassan)
07. Buck 50 feat Meth, Cappa & Redman/Stroke of Death feat Solomon Childs & RZA/ Woodrow The Basehead skit w/o background music (prod by RZA/RZA)
08. Deck's Beat feat 60 Second Assassin (prod by Deck, duh)
09. G-Dini feat Superb (prod by Blaquesmiths)
10. Malcolm (prod by Choo "The Specializt")
11. We Made It feat Superb, Chip Banks & Hell Razah/ Who Would You fukk skit (prod by Carlos "Six July" Broady/RZA)
12. Child's Play w/o beat switch (prod by RZA)
13. Cherchez La Ghost feat U-God & Madame Majestic (prod by C12)
14. Wu-Banga 101 w/o last Ghost verse feat GZA, Raekwon, Cappa & Masta/Iron's Theme feat RZA (prod by Allah Mathematics/RZA)
so, as you see, it's a different vibe & feel on the Canadian version w/ tracks mashed together, rearranged, different beats, different songs, etc... and lets you know how finely crafted that final version was, even though stuff on the Canadian version is dope like In The Rain or the b*stards beat version of Ghost Deini or the novelty of Ghost re-spitting his verse from Impossible (with the announcer stopping the album for "one of the illest verses of all time"). It's a cool look inside the process of finishing off an album and backing instrumentals to skits, and adding beat-switches & arranging tracks that you rarely get to see.
On top of that, you have other cuts from the SC sessions like the aforementioned Milkcrates/Break Beatz:
the classick Cobra Clutch:
Windpipe feat RZA & ODB was originally for SC as well but I agree with pulling it off as it wouldn't fit on the album:
Cherchez La Ghost had remixes w/ extra Ghost verses both over the original beat & this version:
And there was an alternate version of In the Rain/Wise w/ Stevie J & Mr. Dalvin that only surfaced on a DJ Green Lantern tape
and, on top of that, here's a barbershop skit cut from Supreme Clientele that was on a Razor Sharp sampler tape from 2000:
http://lavishbungalows.com/post/37213398875/ghostface-killah-watch-how-you-cut-my-shyt
and I still want to hear "Iron Vacation" unless it just turned into another track (like Ghostbond = Apollo Kids)
But overall, through all this process, you see what work it took to take the time to assemble, arrange & form and, when samples didn't clear, reform this album into the production classic it was, is and will remain.
Prolific posting, Buddah.
Real N Quotes
East Is In The House OMG
can't forget these ones either though
how bout when rza and ghost was on the cover of the source in support of this album
I miss RZA grimy shyt
I still bang this album and Ironman on the reg in the whip
I love Latina women
Veteran
I miss RZA grimy shyt
I still bang this album and Ironman on the reg in the whip
same here
great thread
Yeah, if you don't know about that song & didn't catch it off the chorus, it's the legit "Box In Hand" & the album version that's called "Box In Hand" is really titled who knows what. It was renamed "Deadly Darts" when it came out on a white label b/w "Sunshower" in 1997.
http://www.discogs.com/Wu-Tang-Clan...hod-Man-Deadly-Darts-Sunshower/release/703615
And Box In Hand/Deadly Darts went as far as making to the press versions of Ironman that got reviewed but was pulled from the retail version last minute w/ the track we all know as "Box in Hand" replacing it.
Other things worth checking from the Ironman sessions is the Starks promo tape for the novelty of Ghostface's spoken intro over Syl Johnson's "Is It Because I'm Black" playing in the background
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and the proper Ironman instrumental album that has nearly every song's instrumental extended up to a minute in some cases with most of the beats changing up for their extra run time. Here's the t/l & runtime to illustrate the difference (no Winter Warz on the inst album though).
track- vocal runtime/inst runtime
Iron Maiden- 4:46/5:38
Wildflower- 3:26/ 4:06
The Faster Blade- 2:27/ 3:34
260- 2:46/ 3:09
Assassination Day- 4:18/4:50
Poisonous Darts- 2:15/ 3:29
Winter Warz- 4:40/ n/a
Box In Hand- 3:14/ 3:51
Fish- same
Camay- 4:34/ 5:14
Daytona 500- 4:40/ 5:41
Motherless Child- 3:45/ 4:50
Black Jesus- same
After The Smoke Is Clear- 3:17/3:41
All That I Got Is You- same but the instrumental has RZA playing with the drums intermittently which he doesn't do on the vocal version (either the Mary J LP or Tekitha video versions)
The Soul Controller- run times differ mainly due to no outro on the instrumental, beat mostly the same
Marvel- same
as example, here's Iron Maiden's instrumental...check how it flips around like 4:42 into the beat again, this time w/ that shouting in the background & enough extra time that someone else could have spit a verse
make sure you edit/ leave out the who would you fukk and Clyde Smith skit, their included with the instrumentals
I almost had some explaining to do
wu skits = classic
had a homeboy in soundview back in the day all he would say is, "like Montell... Jordan, im givin em warnings. you keep that shyt up and nikkas'll be cavin ya walls in!"
yo i swear he would just say that shyt for no reason and "i got land in Switzterland. even got sands in the Marylands. Mohammads in the Springs!"
thats was a real ill quotable too
@BXKingPin82 aaahhhhhhhhh hahahahahahahah @ Mohammad in the springs..you literally killing me!
I still dont be knowing what she said in that song lol
big mooma thang was a dope ass track and talkin about the OG version not the p*ssyfied jay z edit..
One the best gfk track ever made 
