Sam Harris on CNN: "Islam is mother lode of bad ideas"

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How often will you all repeat this shyt we already know?

Islam by itself, is bad. Period.

Its like you all want this same fukking history lesson any time someone speaks as if that excuses islam from being a crux of bad ideas.

I don't think you know anything about Islam. Which is sad, to waste your time talking about something you don't know about. Islam is a complete way of life, so it attaches itself to everything in life, Marriage, Economics, Education, etc..., So Islam is never by itself. Two examples of how Islam benefited the world below.

University of Al Quaraouiyine - Fes, Morocco
the oldest existing, continually operating and the first degree awarding educational institution in the world Founded in 859 by an African Muslim women
Which Alumnus are regarded to be the founding fathers of modern sociology, historiography, demography and economics.

Al-Zahrawi- THE PIONEER OF MODERN SURGERY
10th century Muslim Physician. The Father of surgery, wrote an illustrated encyclopedia that would ultimately be used as a guide to European surgeons for the next five hundred years. Al-Zarawhi’s surgical instruments, such as scalpels, bone saws, and forceps are still used by modern surgeons.
 

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I don't think you know anything about Islam. Which is sad, to waste your time talking about something you don't know about. Islam is a complete way of life, so it attaches itself to everything in life, Marriage, Economics, Education, etc..., So Islam is never by itself. Two examples of how Islam benefited the world below.

University of Al Quaraouiyine - Fes, Morocco
the oldest existing, continually operating and the first degree awarding educational institution in the world Founded in 859 by an African Muslim women
Which Alumnus are regarded to be the founding fathers of modern sociology, historiography, demography and economics.

Al-Zahrawi- THE PIONEER OF MODERN SURGERY
10th century Muslim Physician. The Father of surgery, wrote an illustrated encyclopedia that would ultimately be used as a guide to European surgeons for the next five hundred years. Al-Zarawhi’s surgical instruments, such as scalpels, bone saws, and forceps are still used by modern surgeons.
Bruh, I get tired of fukking repeating this shyt overtime we have this discussion.

Some people in some part of the world did that shyt.

Thats like claiming Calculus as a christian invention. Or Telescopes.

Are you that fukking dense?
 

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How often will you all repeat this shyt we already know?

Islam by itself, is bad. Period.

Its like you all want this same fukking history lesson any time someone speaks as if that excuses islam from being a crux of bad ideas.
The level of ignorance is shameful :mjlol:

If you havent figured it out already, Islam is an illogical medium (all religion is inherently illogical) for legitimate grievances against the West.

Research how Wahhabism grew with Western installation of brutal secular dictators.
 

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Bruh, I get tired of fukking repeating this shyt overtime we have this discussion.

Some people in some part of the world did that shyt.

Thats like claiming Calculus as a christian invention. Or Telescopes.

Are you that fukking dense?

Now I know that your stupid. The University that I mentioned started out as a Madrasa and still provides Islamic education. Most of the great Muslim Scientist and Scholars had there work funded by Muslim Caliphs and worked in there courts. Islamic Institutions promoted education and the sciences. It was not random people throughout the world.
 

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The level of ignorance is shameful :mjlol:

If you havent figured it out already, Islam is an illogical medium (all religion is inherently illogical) for legitimate grievances against the West.

Research how Wahhabism grew with Western installation of brutal secular dictators.
Level of ignorance?

Bruh, I KNOW ALL OF THIS.

This is whats so fukking insulting. You all want to have the SAME. fukkING. HISTORY. LESSON every goddamn time we have this discussion.

I could teach semesters on all of this.

This dude acts like he's the first fukking one to know what wahhabism is...or that I didn't know this.

You're not the only one with this knowledge.
 

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Now I know that your stupid. The University that I mentioned started out as a Madrasa and still provides Islamic education. Most of the great Muslim Scientist and Scholars had there work funded by Muslim Caliphs and worked in there courts. Islamic Institutions promoted education and the sciences. It was not random people throughout the world.
blah blah blah blah blah

I know all of this.

I know it all.

I know

I know

I know

You're not telling me anything I don't know...and I don't know where or how or why you all think that NO ONE knows this shyt.

But that wasn't the point of this thread. You all come in these SAME threads talking about the SAME history that WE ALL KNOW.
 

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@BaggerofTea and @tstone seem to think that if you only knew the history that they seem so bent on sharing, that you'd share their opinions.

Hell no.

Not only do I know this history, front, back, and fukking sideways...I've recommended books, documentaries, and lectures to dozens of people about this shyt.

I know it all.

But you all naming this shyt that the average person ALREADY KNOWS isn't addressing the point of this thread.
 

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I don't think you know anything about Islam. Which is sad, to waste your time talking about something you don't know about. Islam is a complete way of life, so it attaches itself to everything in life, Marriage, Economics, Education, etc..., So Islam is never by itself. Two examples of how Islam benefited the world below.

University of Al Quaraouiyine - Fes, Morocco
the oldest existing, continually operating and the first degree awarding educational institution in the world Founded in 859 by an African Muslim women
Which Alumnus are regarded to be the founding fathers of modern sociology, historiography, demography and economics.

Al-Zahrawi- THE PIONEER OF MODERN SURGERY
10th century Muslim Physician. The Father of surgery, wrote an illustrated encyclopedia that would ultimately be used as a guide to European surgeons for the next five hundred years. Al-Zarawhi’s surgical instruments, such as scalpels, bone saws, and forceps are still used by modern surgeons.
should we start listing all the things that white scientists accomplished to justify white supremacy? :jbhmm:
 

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Level of ignorance?

Bruh, I KNOW ALL OF THIS.

This is whats so fukking insulting. You all want to have the SAME. fukkING. HISTORY. LESSON every goddamn time we have this discussion.

I could teach semesters on all of this.

This dude acts like he's the first fukking one to know what wahhabism is...or that I didn't know this.

You're not the only one with this knowledge.
@BaggerofTea and @tstone seem to think that if you only knew the history that they seem so bent on sharing, that you'd share their opinions.

Hell no.

Not only do I know this history, front, back, and fukking sideways...I've recommended books, documentaries, and lectures to dozens of people about this shyt.

I know it all.

But you all naming this shyt that the average person ALREADY KNOWS isn't addressing the point of this thread.
:manny: You dont know shyt honestly

You were given a very precise reason why Islam and why certain segments of the middle eastern population react in destructive ways

Yet you insist on lashing out like a fool who has been exposed as a fool.
 

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:manny: You dont know shyt honestly

You were given a very precise reason why Islam and why certain segments of the middle eastern population react in destructive ways

Yet you insist on lashing out like a fool who has been exposed as a fool.
This is absolute and utter bullshyt.

Islam IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES is a vile and disgusting practice and way of life.

This has nothing to do with how they act to other countries, look how they act towards each other.

I know more about the Quran (which i've read many years ago in totality. Dead Serious) and islamic customs than I could ever waste time on here recounting for you for you to come across and try to discredit very real criticisms of islam and muslims towards how they SHOULD behave in the modern world.
 

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This is absolute and utter bullshyt.

Islam IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES is a vile and disgusting practice and way of life.

This has nothing to do with how they act to other countries, look how they act towards each other.

I know more about the Quran (which i've read many years ago in totality. Dead Serious) and islamic customs than I could ever waste time on here recounting for you for you to come across and try to discredit very real criticisms of islam and muslims towards how they SHOULD behave in the modern world.

You don't know shyt. :mjlol::russ:

For example the hijab ( a staple of orthodox Islam) did not come back into heavy use until the 50s and 60s. Islam had a very liberal cultural and political view up until the mid 50s and 60s

Again you expose yourself :bryan:
 

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You don't know shyt. :mjlol::russ:

For example the hijab ( a staple of orthodox Islam) did not come back into heavy use until the 50s and 60s. Islam had a very liberal cultural and political view up until the mid 50s and 60s

Again you expose yourself :bryan:
Bruh, at no point in time did I ever address the fukking hijab.

You keep saying this as if I don't know this.

I KNOW THIS. Goddamn, what is wrong with you? And what does this have to do with the point of the thread?

I know fukking most of the islamic world was "liberalized" post WW2....but they were communist/socialists and got waxed out. Now we have the fukkheads we do now.

So whats that got to do with ISLAM itself and the Quran, which are themselves purported to be infallible and immutable???

Stop proclaiming someone you disagree with doesn't know shyt. Its fukking retarded because I can do just the same thing and never pin down what we're actually discussing. You don't have to agree with me.

I know more about Islam that YOU do, cultural and political, and STILL view it as a barbaric, vicious, disgusting way of life that I hope to be marginalized and removed from any influence in the Western world.
 

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should we start listing all the things that white scientists accomplished to justify white supremacy? :jbhmm:
What does this have to do with White Supremacy. The Islamic Institutions of science and education that I mentioned included different race and ethnic groups (Arabs, Persians, Kurd's, Blacks, etc..) also many scientist that worked in Muslim leaders courts where Jews and Christians.

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Al Jahiz-Black Muslim from Basra, Worked in the capital for Abbāsid caliph one of the most important writers in Islamic history. In addition, he was an accomplished theologian, poet, philosopher, grammarian and linguist. Known as “the first Islamic zoologist,” he authored about 200 books on various subjects.
 
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