Scarface Says "Hip Hop Is White Now," Blames Record Executives

[Wacky D]

Better training will amount to better music @Wacky D
Simple as.

what training?

this is HIP-HOP. this aint no dam orchestra.

i done seen it all on this site now man. you dudes be trippin.

gotta love how people gotta create all these elaborate ass explanations as to why they just dont like the music. its simple, you want music to go back towards its older way & thats cool

thats why they have all these incredible avenues to access said older music so yall can stop ya biitching

you sound silly.

nobody said anything about wanting music to "go back towards its older way" but you. if anything, we want that new hot chit. youre the one making up elaborate explanations, trying to ignore the facts because you obviously got geesed.

just face it. the rap game is completely corporate now. and youre exactly the type of gullable consumer that they prey on.

 

[KillSpray]

Dudes need to understand a few simple facts.

First whites control the music business, as well as the entire entertainment industry. It's not that they control hip hop, because they don't, and they can't. They control the music business and they control the capital, and all the nikkas that's out here "trying to get a deal" are willing and able to become a part of that machine for some of that cash.

Second, the country is majority white, something like 70% white. Blacks are somewhere around 15% of the population. So for blacks to expect any mass marketed media to be targeted to their preferences is delusional. The end consumer is overwhelmingly white.

Third, macklemore and Mac miller in particular generated early success outside of the major label system. Given my second point it shouldn't be a surprise why these kinds of rappers would be palatable to the mainstream.

Finally, Kendrick proved a black rapper with high skill and substance is viable. It's just that Kendrick is a rare breed.

 

[Wild self]

Exactly, Wale out selling Ross, J cole also sold very well. None of this sh!t was ever poppin in the gangsta 90s era aka ''the golden years'', hiphop ain't been this balanced since the early 90's. Face is a grumpy dude out the lupe & so are his co signers. It's like dudes want it to be worse than it actually is.







Gangsta rap. Nuff said

About time someone said that. The lyrical, "boring" rappers are outselling the Trinidad James/ Roscoe Dash rappers by a wide margin. Hip Hop in 2013 is free of the gangsta rap stigma and make young black artists embrace what they want to do now.

 

[Wild self]

:herewegoagain:

Would Eminem be as popular as he is if he were black?
Why is it the same old formula in Hip-Hop music today that is getting spins?
Why can Mackelmore or however you spell his name, Mac Miller, other non-blacks artists can put out qoute un qoute pure Hip-Hip,
and us blacks are still stuck on the same formula of steeze since the late 90's?
You cannot tell me that,
Lil' Wayne, Flocka, Gucci, French Montana, Rick Ross, T.I. have not been putting out the same music for over 10 years,
because they have,
it is more to a black life,
than drugs, clubbing, and swag,
Just because you may know a difference between right and wrong,
a little kid who is younger may not,
They eat what is feed to them,
they do not care for any other form of black music that were created before the late 90's,
my little cousins born in the 90's only listen to music that is made for the club,
but the thing is,
they play club music in the house,
in the car and etc,
nothing different,
same old sh1t,
We have no substance in are art,
nothing,
The south will lose is effect of Hip-Hop,
when balance of power is control between men and women,
the club, lounges and strip clubs make rappers hot and current,
Which is the only form of music cac's at record labels are force feeding us,
Pimp C and Face is right,
but it may be to late.

you mean the fukked up artists in the south get all the burn and the good ones (KRIT) get no real love. Mainstream marketed the trash southern rappers and thought that that is what the south is all about: Old school American cars, strip clubs, trapping, fukked up crimes, ignorance, "getting money" doing bullshyt.

I can definitely say, however, that black folks for the first time fukked up their own artform that they created. This ain't like Rock'n Roll or Jazz where whites stole it from us, its we who sold it out for the dollar and to live like a Cash Money/ Puff type.

We fukked it up and shytted on the intelligent artists who use boom bap production as "boring" or "kufi rapper" while giving money to the likes of Soulja Boy and Gucci Mane with their 808s and adlibs.

We fukked it up cause we wanted to get some damn p*ssy off of bad bytches in the club.

We fukked it up when we praise record sales and business endorsements from execs and rappers that shytted on their peers to get.

fukk anyone that tries to change up the true story to make it look good in front of their kids. i'ma tell it to mine own about how we created, and destroyed, this artform.

 

[Jone2three45]

you mean the fukked up artists in the south get all the burn and the good ones (KRIT) get no real love. Mainstream marketed the trash southern rappers and thought that that is what the south is all about: Old school American cars, strip clubs, trapping, fukked up crimes, ignorance, "getting money" doing bullshyt.

I can definitely say, however, that black folks for the first time fukked up their own artform that they created. This ain't like Rock'n Roll or Jazz where whites stole it from us, its we who sold it out for the dollar and to live like a Cash Money/ Puff type.

We fukked it up and shytted on the intelligent artists who use boom bap production as "boring" or "kufi rapper" while giving money to the likes of Soulja Boy and Gucci Mane with their 808s and adlibs.

We fukked it up cause we wanted to get some damn p*ssy off of bad bytches in the club.

We fukked it up when we praise record sales and business endorsements from execs and rappers that shytted on their peers to get.

fukk anyone that tries to change up the true story to make it look good in front of their kids. i'ma tell it to mine own about how we created, and destroyed, this artform.

so true.

 

[Roberto Dinero]

I remember a thread about this where I posted but I don't think its the same one.

I wanted to post this(if it hasn't been posted yet) and u guys tell me what u think.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV7ilFcozHs[/ame]

I don't necessarily agree with him but what do u guys think about what he said?

At the end of the day, people are just trying to make music, whether black or white or latin or chinese or whatever, that's my opinion. But he makes some funny and interesting points.

 

[Bolzmark]

I have several opinions on this topic but the first thing that needs to be said is, if we are looking at the record companies to nourish and promote the real hip hop culture, WE LOST. They are looking to make money. Thats how its been fromn day 1 when the first record contract was signed. They dont give a FUKK about the culture and you are an idiot if you think they ar or ever have been. Its all about the dollar.

If Rakim could drop an album today and go platinum, the record companies will put it out there. If Vanilla Ice could put out an album today and go platinum, the record companies will put it out there.

IMO, blaming the record companies is a cop out. There is just a lack of real talent in hip hop in hip hop today. The record companies only give us what we pay for.

 

[Wacky D]

theres plenty of talent out there. most of them just aren't getting deals. I don't know how some of yall don't see this, unless youre only exposed to whats pushed thru the industry.

and Kendrick lamar is not no dam rare breed. hes not even that good, if you want to be real.

 

[Wild self]

I remember a thread about this where I posted but I don't think its the same one.

I wanted to post this(if it hasn't been posted yet) and u guys tell me what u think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV7ilFcozHs

I don't necessarily agree with him but what do u guys think about what he said?

At the end of the day, people are just trying to make music, whether black or white or latin or chinese or whatever, that's my opinion. But he makes some funny and interesting points.

true shyt. Funny how whites pushed us out from their homes and neighborhoods, but want to fukk with us when we get something good poppin.

 

[eastside313]

Not reading all these replies but someone tell me this. If this fight isn't fixed and the peckerwoods not jamming sex and drugs and destruction down our throats than why is it that urban radio is sex and drugs in every song. Turn on top 40 and its the complete opposite.

You got lil Wayne openly saying hoes love him like satan. nikkas promoting Molly like p diddy cut them a check to endorse it like ciroc. You tellin me nobody at the label thought these shyts should be sensored or is it more likely that they telling these idiots to rap about Molly cause its hot.

 

[The_Sheff]

Not reading all these replies but someone tell me this. If this fight isn't fixed and the peckerwoods not jamming sex and drugs and destruction down our throats than why is it that urban radio is sex and drugs in every song. Turn on top 40 and its the complete opposite.

You got lil Wayne openly saying hoes love him like satan. nikkas promoting Molly like p diddy cut them a check to endorse it like ciroc. You tellin me nobody at the label thought these shyts should be sensored or is it more likely that they telling these idiots to rap about Molly cause its hot.

You dont have to tell anyone to do something because its hot, they are going to do it on their own because its hot and they want to make money.

If im a young nikka trying to rap which lane am i going to choose, lane A where you get lots of radio spins, hoes on your dikk, and quick easy money, or lane B where few people are checking for your type of music, therefore your ass is not on the radio, and you performing in front of 75 people?

 

[Big Boss]

 

[The War Report]

nikkas so stingy they got short arms and deep pockets
This goes on in some companies
With majors, they're scared to death to pump these
First of all, who's your A&R?
A mountain climber who plays an electric guitar?
But he don't know the meaning of dope
When he's looking for a suit-and-tie rap
That's cleaner than a bar of soap
And I'm the dirtiest thing in sight
Matter of fact, bring out the girls and let's have a mud fight

This is nothing new. Artists are the one's who dictate what's hot. These artists are influenced from their surroundings and in turn these execs go with what's hot. If people were clamoring for lyrics and substantive content, trust me, these execs would push that shyt because the bottom line is to make money,.

 

[DANJ!]

I have several opinions on this topic but the first thing that needs to be said is, if we are looking at the record companies to nourish and promote the real hip hop culture, WE LOST. They are looking to make money. Thats how its been fromn day 1 when the first record contract was signed. They dont give a FUKK about the culture and you are an idiot if you think they ar or ever have been. Its all about the dollar.

If Rakim could drop an album today and go platinum, the record companies will put it out there. If Vanilla Ice could put out an album today and go platinum, the record companies will put it out there.

IMO, blaming the record companies is a cop out. There is just a lack of real talent in hip hop in hip hop today. The record companies only give us what we pay for.

Exxxxactly...

We can sit here and act like it's a bunch of old white guys co-conspiring about how to destroy the culture of hip-hop... but nikkas are makin' the music they wanna make, and nikkas are dancin' to it without being forced. If you PERSONALLY don't like it, that's on you. But to think all this is the doing of some white conglomerate that kidnaps nikkas and MAKES them record "ignorant" music, some of y'all crazy as shyt. They're putting out whatever people are paying for. If a nikka like Joey Badass could drop an album of 1995-esque rap and it blew, they'd be on that bandwagon next. Labels give a fukk about a hit record and how much money they can make, that's it.

 

[Peter Parker]

Rap music has always been backed by white executives, in fact, white people have been the largest contributors to its record sales since like NWA. While there were nikkas in the hood that listened to that stuff, its always been suburban white kids that put all the money into it