Scarface Says "Hip Hop Is White Now," Blames Record Executives

[ExodusNirvana]

being able to making money off music is a good thing.

This is true...

and exactly how many rappers gonna do this rap shiit for free?

I'm not saying that they should. I'm just pointing out that it's more or less an inevitability.

shyt sucks but it is what it is

 

[///Vega+++]

The minute you can make money off of something, it's essence will be destroyed.

all that needed to be said

 

[Notorioushnic]

prolly why he hasn't been eating for a long time then

50 complained and he's eating real well

 

[USSInsiders]

50 complained and he's eating real well

not off music anymore :ohword:

 

[Jesus]

Wasn't this nikka performing with ICP less than a year ago?

fukk this has been nikka.

 

[Notorioushnic]

Wasn't this nikka performing with ICP less than a year ago?

fukk this has been nikka.

In a era where you have nikkas wearing dresses, woman clothing, grandma earings, and kissing other men, This is a big deal to discredit him all together?

Performing one show in face paint is just enough to discredit him for numerous classics and timeless music he along with GB has brought for almost 30 years. Damn Hip Hop fans are petty as fukk

 

[Professor Polo]

stop blaming white people, and begin taking a look at black people...record executives target people who actually buy albums..

 

[CHERUB]

So basically nobody can have an opinion thats not status quo these days right? Face BEEN saying this. Dude just loves hiphop and he's speaking his mind. Maybe u dont agree. Its cool. Not the end of the world. He's human. Everybody isnt gonna agree..but why bash the man. But in typical #Newnikka fashion u got lames responding like a bunch of females. Let dude speak his piece. Its called dialouge for you #Newnikka 90's babies. I mean i know yall want everyone to stfu, dont have opinions and all but its still cool to hear the thoughts frm hiphop pioneers. Salute

 

[dtownreppin214]

what happened to brooklyn personifies what happened to hip hop.

yall let the cacs and hipsters and weirdos all in little by little watering down everything until they became the majority and city/hip hop lost its soul.

 

[Notorioushnic]

what happened to brooklyn personalities what happened to hip hop.

yall let the cacs and hipsters and weirdos all in little by little until they became the majority and city/hip hop lost its soul.

Exactly. This is the results when you let bytch nikkas and sissies call the shots

 

[dtownreppin214]

Exactly. This is the results when you let bytch nikkas and sissies call the shots

funny thing is i don't even blame cacs, they been trying to emulate black people since the beginning of time. i blame all of these soft nikkas we got in my generation who bend over backwards to be accepted by cacs.

 

[Rapmastermind]

Scarface Rap Legend who LOVES and RESPECTS Hip Hop as a artform and culture. His opinion isn't bitter, he's not old and mad. He's kicking knowledge about something he loves. LOL @ dudes talking about "Scarface is salty", people really lack respect it's pathetic. Scarface has more Classics than any so called "Hot" new rapper out, it's not even debatable.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AoJUwL2FGE[/ame]

 

[Wacky D]

I've read hundreds of generic "The industry is trying to bring us down" statements from old rappers who are irrelevant

this is nothing new, theres literally nothing even noteworthy said by Scarface here. Just another nikka who thinks he's smarter than he really is speakin his mind and for some reason people will act like he actually said something because its scarface

the funny thing is, scarface is just calling out the obvious.

hes not saying anything that isn't already said everyday by people on & offline.

we see you rockin the drake avi. i know the truth hurts. just take it.

But nikkas act like this ain't BEEN going on. shyt, there's a better chance of a record exec in 2013 having been a hip-hop fan than there was back in the day. I'm pretty sure none of those execs in the 80s and 90s (including even some of the black ones) gave a fukk about hip-hop more than they gave a fukk about the money they made from it. Only the names change, but the mentality's always been the same- some labels didn't even fukk with rap at all until they saw it making money for the few who did.

a lot of these black execs aren't really hip-hop like that neither. nor do they hold any real power. theres a reason why the black CEO is extinct.

and the game was in a better place back in the day, regardless of who was in the office because they let the artists be artists, and they were signing real talents instead of playing create-a-rapper and forcing stuff down peoples throats.

Face just has a case of 'itis.

The rap game is as open as it has ever been right now.
All you need is a good song and an internet connection to get on.
His time has passed and he feels its the white mans fault...but there were more white people in more control back in his day

Executives dont care about what people listen to, they just want to supply folks w/ whatever will make them the most money. If positive rap could make them rich, thats all you would hear...but its not, people want to hear fukkery.

What are the biggest "black" websites? WSHH, Mediafakeout, etc...

If you actually think white people would pass up money, just to make black people listen to negativity you should off yourself.

Its like people complaining about Mcdonalds...if people really want healthy food Mcdonalds would only sell salads....but they give the people what they want, Big Macs.

no. actually, the rap game is as closed as its ever been.

where do you get the idea that whats being pushed is what the people want? that's a hell of an assumption, especially considering the general lackluster reaction towards the mainstream scene for nearly a decade now.

It sounds like he's saying record companies push a rapper like Trinidad James partly because a "lyrical" white rapper who raps about serious topics will look better by comparison to cacs who don't listen to rap. "He raps about more than money and hoes, he's so lyrical", etc That's what happened with Macklemore, white people who don't listen to rap think that he's mastered the artform better than his black counterparts.

Whether record companies intend to do that pushing a Trinidad James type rapper or not, that's what ends up happening. It sounded like Face was implying it was all by design to me.

pretty much.

glad to see somebody understands.

ive been saying this for nearly a decade now, when they were still focused on phase A of pushing the dumb rappers.

So in conclusion. Scarface is 100% right. Hip Hop has lost it's idenity. I like how he also took blame and wasn't just pointing figures. Rap fans today just don't understand how unbalanced the game is. How can anyone say Hip Hop today is "What the people want" are you kidding? Most of the stuff pumped out is specifically by labels who only want us to Get high, have sex and commit crimes. Say what you will about White Execs always being in Hip Hop but back in the day, White Execs cause they didn't understand the artform let rappers release the music they wanted to. White Exec didn't get in the way of the art back in the day. Sure they gave Rappers some terrible slave deals but the art was compromised. Forever shoot em up, bang Bang rap song. You had conscious emcees spitting knowledge. You had balance.

I honestly don't even blame kids or this generation cause they just don't know any better. They think all this ignorant rap is the truth. Look, they are only pumping up 1 Female rapper right now. In the 80's and 90's and even early 2000's you had several females doing it. The point is Face is 100%, Rap not only is lacking quality and balance but Record Execs have destroyed the genre with their formulas and menstrual shows they put on radio and TV. It's one thing to have that and mix it with other content. It's another to only play that mess and push it off as "This is what the people want". Half the stuff ya'll calling "HOT" is flopping all over the place so don't give me "This is what people want" cause it's not.

Hip Hop has no balance and you know what, like all the Genre's I named White will take it over eventually cause we have lost our Identity. So if you look at history, White America has taken Black musical Artforms and taken them over. It's happen to damn near everything but RnB and Hip Hop, those are the last 2 Black Artforms that haven't been all the way taken over. Also for the record, I understand that music sees no color and everyone can enjoy the music they want. But Black People have given so much to music as an artform and they don't get the rightful historical credit they deserve. It's sad Blacks grow up today hating Rock N Roll and Techno, two genre's we created.

classic post network.

u puttin words in pimps mouth...

pimp said the dirty dikks n fake dope dealers fukkin up the game...


again face a hypocrite...breh...

everything he speakin on he was doin....at def jam south.....plenty of other labels was doin it

he wasnt sayin shyt durin the bling era...the tank era...or death row era...

y he was eatin...

he get popped for child support...all of sudden hip hop is white...and the record execs brainwashing...

this shyt been goin on since eazy was alive...

face need to get off the boo boo...he talk this shyt...then 5 mins later..he wont do another geto boyz album unless rick rubin is involve...

then say rick didnt like him...when rick put them nikkas on...

come on man.

you really gonna sit there and act like the game was the same back in those days?

The thing that annoys me about this whole "Blacks destroyed Hip Hop" thing
is unlike other genre's of music where a lot of the participants grow up in an
area that'll facilitate their musical ability, most Hip Hop artists DO NOT.

For people who grow up middle class listening to rock music you don't have
to worry about resources for education in that particular genre of music.
You can go to a guitar class, you can purchase dvd's and books.
In this way your parents can fund your musical career.
You're able to grow in your understanding and knowledge of music
in a way that other less fortunate kids CANNOT.

The Chief Keef's of the world don't have that, their musical education is
limited ! They grow up in poverty and their educational system is in shambles.
You can't expect them to compete with their middle class counterparts musically
when they haven't been given the means to do so.


When an artist has some way to incubate and grow they become exceptional.
Tyler The Creator ? Hopsin ? J. Cole ? Drake ? A big difference between
them and the average trap/hood rapper is their access to knowledge !
Tyler the creator and Hopsin are both musicians/producers.
J. Cole ? Another Producer, he can also play piano !
Drake ? He had the resources and connections to grow as an
artist in a way that the average kid in the hood can't.
Kanye ? Another middle class/lower middle class black Hip Hop artist.


Even dudes like Dr. Dre,Dj Quik and The RZA all of which admittedly hit the ground
running only got BETTER as the limits they had previously when creating
music evaporated. As they learned music theory and understood creating
songs BEYOND just chopping samples.

Yes. I think major labels played a part in it but I also think the destruction
of black neighborhoods and having very little access to a decent musical
education has also played a part in crippling black musical output.

Which leaves the lane WIDE OPEN for non-blacks to fill up.
I mean Hip Hop is a direct result of the kids of the previous generation
not having access to instruments and lacking a system in place to teach them.....


This isn't to say that black musicianship is nonexistent or that there
are not black musicians currently tearing sh1t down (because there definitely
are....) I'm just saying that the issues affecting Hip Hop is much bigger than
something as simple as "Deeze Kids don't know nummin nawmsayin ?"

Another thing I think that's different between Hip Hop and other
forms of music is it hasn't been picked up an "intellectualized" by academia
in the way that Rock Music or Pop Music has.
You've got greats in the genre who in general get looked over despite
being poetic in a way that others could only hope to be IE

John Lennon vs Nas.

did you think of this when you were on the toilet or something?

HIP-HOP IS THE PRODUCT OF POVERTY. this isn't some artform or some sport where 'the best training that money can buy' will enhance you.

theres plenty of rappers living in poverty right now that could rap circles around most of these mainstream dudes. the problem is that they've been shut out of their own game and aren't getting deals anymore.

chief keef isn't a weak rapper because he was poor. hes a weak rapper simply because he cant rap.

Most of these nikkas cant accept the fact that most of these manufactured cookie cutter rappers that they dikkride or stan on the regular can't generate a serious peak of interest so they have to spew their venom and showcase hatred on the older heads to compensate that inner feeling. They know its the truth and it hurts so they go ahead with the silly ass Larry Holmes similes or calling him old and irrelevant when Face's career transitioned close to 30 years and he's still remembered as a pioneer. Their favorite crop of the month would be lucky to make it past a year.

How many people you heard today are still talking about that Big Sean Detroit mixtape or talking about How Drake's Take Care really crossed on levels of the past albums that were known as certified classics (dikkriding and stanning aside, How many??) Dont worry I'll wait

i know some of these dudes is reading this powerful post like

i know it has to hurt these cats. plus they got too much pride to admit that they got geesed. its not their fault tho.

 

[Insensitive]

Better training will amount to better music @Wacky D
Simple as.

 

[mozichrome]

gotta love how people gotta create all these elaborate ass explanations as to why they just dont like the music. its simple, you want music to go back towards its older way & thats cool

thats why they have all these incredible avenues to access said older music so yall can stop ya biitching