School re-opening discussion

Should School re-open?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 4.0%
  • No

    Votes: 82 65.6%
  • Hybrid (alternating days in-person & distance learning)

    Votes: 38 30.4%

  • Total voters
    125

Robbie3000

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In NC they passed a law requiring students to go back in person for the first five days statewide on August 17. After that schools can do what they want.

The senate leader also blocked a bill that would allow schools to make those first 5 days remote if there was a surge.

shyt is a whole mess.

:dwillhuh: What in holy hell is the purpose of that? Is it like a Rona appetizer?


This whole shyt is retarded because we have to kowtow to an ignorant conservative base.
 

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Even if you make the argument that kids and teens aren't susceptible to the virus at large, how does that extend to universities? You inherently have a ton of older, more susceptible people there, from professors, to deans to older graduate and undergraduate students.

And my old university had an elementary school and boys and girls club both right on campus. There's nothing stopping a super spreader event when a parent who has it spreads it to a teacher who spreads it to an education student who spreads it to their professors who spread it to their classrooms and so on.
 

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"I posed the following question to 40 people today, representing professional and management roles in corporations, government agencies, and military commands: “Would your company or command have a 12 person, 45 minute meeting in a conference room?”

100% of them said no, they would not. These are some of their answers:

“No. Until further notice we are on Zoom.”
“(Our company) doesn’t allow us in (company space).”
“Oh hell no.”
“No absolutely not.”
“Is there a percentage lower than zero?”
“Something of that size would be virtual.”

We do not even consider putting our office employees into the same situation we are contemplating putting our children into. And let’s drive this point home: there are instances here when commanding officers will not put soldiers, ACTUAL SOLDIERS, into the kind of indoor environment we’re contemplating for our children. For me this is as close to a ‘kill shot’ argument as there is in this entire debate. How do we work from home because buildings with recycled air are not safe, because we don’t trust other people to not spread the virus, and then with the same breath send our children into buildings?

“Children only die .0016 of the time.”

First, conceding we’re an increasingly morally bankrupt society, but when did we start talking about children’s lives, or anyone’s lives, like this? This how the villain in movies talks about mortality, usually 10-15 minutes before the good guy kills him.

If you’re in this camp, and I acknowledge that many, many people are, I’m asking you to consider that number from a slightly different angle.

FCPS has 189,000 children. .0016 of that is 302. 302 dead children are the Calvary Hill you’re erecting your argument on. So, let’s agree to do this: stop presenting this as a data point. If this is your argument, I challenge you to have courage equal to your conviction. Go ahead, plant a flag on the internet and say, “Only 302 children will die.” No one will. That’s the kind action on social media that gets you fired from your job. And I trust our social media enclave isn’t so careless and irresponsible with life that it would even, for even a millisecond, enter any of your minds to make such an argument."

:whew::whew:
 

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"I posed the following question to 40 people today, representing professional and management roles in corporations, government agencies, and military commands: “Would your company or command have a 12 person, 45 minute meeting in a conference room?”

100% of them said no, they would not. These are some of their answers:

“No. Until further notice we are on Zoom.”
“(Our company) doesn’t allow us in (company space).”
“Oh hell no.”
“No absolutely not.”
“Is there a percentage lower than zero?”
“Something of that size would be virtual.”

We do not even consider putting our office employees into the same situation we are contemplating putting our children into. And let’s drive this point home: there are instances here when commanding officers will not put soldiers, ACTUAL SOLDIERS, into the kind of indoor environment we’re contemplating for our children. For me this is as close to a ‘kill shot’ argument as there is in this entire debate. How do we work from home because buildings with recycled air are not safe, because we don’t trust other people to not spread the virus, and then with the same breath send our children into buildings?

“Children only die .0016 of the time.”

First, conceding we’re an increasingly morally bankrupt society, but when did we start talking about children’s lives, or anyone’s lives, like this? This how the villain in movies talks about mortality, usually 10-15 minutes before the good guy kills him.

If you’re in this camp, and I acknowledge that many, many people are, I’m asking you to consider that number from a slightly different angle.

FCPS has 189,000 children. .0016 of that is 302. 302 dead children are the Calvary Hill you’re erecting your argument on. So, let’s agree to do this: stop presenting this as a data point. If this is your argument, I challenge you to have courage equal to your conviction. Go ahead, plant a flag on the internet and say, “Only 302 children will die.” No one will. That’s the kind action on social media that gets you fired from your job. And I trust our social media enclave isn’t so careless and irresponsible with life that it would even, for even a millisecond, enter any of your minds to make such an argument."

:whew::whew:

:wow: Ive seen people online using Camron logic for all of this

:stopitslime: "children die everyday B"
 

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Ghoul: Well if public schools fail because of a little flu we can give money to these charters because they can do better anyway. GIVE PEOPLE CHOICE! :skip:

Me: But what about your kids?:martin:

Ghoul: Oh they're in private school. We got the private tutor with the iPad Pro and 70 inch oled virtual class on deck :mjpls:
 

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Even if you make the argument that kids and teens aren't susceptible to the virus at large, how does that extend to universities? You inherently have a ton of older, more susceptible people there, from professors, to deans to older graduate and undergraduate students.
I think most people are fine with college being online, it poses challenges for those who need labs or are in the arts where people need in-person instruction and access to materials, but college/grad students are old enough to figure it out. I do hope universities stop being stubborn and discount tuition as online is not what many signed up for when enrolling, but that’s another battle for another day.
 

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Where you at? Is the Rona poppin like that where you stay?
I'm between Kansas and Missouri (KC Metro area)

KS and MO together have a little less than 50,000 cases and about 1,400 deaths.

So, not bad considering but still I'd hate to put my kids and their teachers in that situation.
 

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kids shake it off though, the mortality rate for people under 18 is basically zero

what's gonna happen is that they give it to their parents :huhldup: not to mention older teachers


Joining the conversation late, but there has to be some part of this that has been impacted by kids basically being on house arrest for the last few months. They haven't been (largely) in the population. So how can they be so certain that they won't become carriers/sick at a different rate when more kids are out of their current bubbles?

As for the poll, I chose a hybrid model, but I still need to hear what the plans are before I'm ready to send my kids in... Too many questions without answers right now.
 

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Just had to sit my kids down and tell them they aren’t going to school this year.

My daughter took it pretty bad. Tears and all.

But I pretty much explained to her that school won’t be school as she knows it and she is lucky that she has parents that can be available to be home with her.

Beyond even worrying about catching the Rona, these first couple weeks are gonna be a shytshow. I’m not sending my kids in to navigate that.

Maybe second half of the year after things cool down and a clear plan is set.
 
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