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I've seen some correlations and am continuing to dig further. Doesn't mean that force is Abrahamic though.

I will say this, I actually see the temperament God had in the Old Testament is probably more likely than the temperament of God in the New Testament.
 

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what do you think Jacob meant when he said: I will divide them in Jacob, and scatter them in Israel

just curious

I’m not clear with the context of that scripture. I gotta read it and let you know. What book is it from?
 
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Nearly forgot you have a weird obsession with Islam. It's like how conservative white male evangelicals see gay shyt everywhere

And you seek out any thread about God or Christianity just to target it

So we both have “weird obsessions” I guess :obama:

But my point is, many atheists and Muslims have this intense hate for Christians, Christianity and Jesus that can’t be understood.

I just see that trait in you and Muslim apologists. Take it how you want. Just an observation. Not an insult. :manny:
 
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And you seek out any thread about God or Christianity just to target it

So we both have “weird obsessions” I guess :obama:

But my point is, many atheists and Muslims have this intense hate for Christians, Christianity and Jesus that can’t be understood.

I just see that trait in you and Muslim apologists. Take it how you want. Just an observation. Not an insult. :manny:
This thread isn't hidden so I don't have to seek it out since it's on the first page.
I don't hate Christianity lol that's what you hope so it can fit in your apologetics narrative that atheists are just mad at God :mjlol:.
I love mythology and that includes modern day religions
 
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Weve been scouting and think you might make a wonderful addition.Your hired,this is your new job. Keep teaching champ. You make your own schedule and can never get fired. Congratulations reflection:respect:
 

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I’m not clear with the context of that scripture. I gotta read it and let you know. What book is it from?
Genesis 49

my take is this: Jacob says in his dream (before the birth of his children) that he saw a ladder that the angels of God were ascending and descending and that it was the gate of Heaven

i don't know where "dreams" are first described but that has to be one of the first

basically the insinuation is that your children are always on the other side of dreams. If not the idea of the pit of affliction would cause people to never believe

remember if you were Abraham and lets assume his descendants are like him. Would those descendants be happy if they always had the same exact story?

Remember in Exodus it desribes only the children of Israel specifically rather than the children of Jacob

consider if another major character changed his name. IE Saul

if Saul in the New Testament never goes by Paul, would his story always be linked to Saul in Kings/Chronicles etc dealing with Philistines.

So when the children and elders of Israel grumbled against Moses, God sent fiery serpents among them. What if you grumbled in your sleep? Would fiery serpents invade your dream?

 
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And you seek out any thread about God or Christianity just to target it

So we both have “weird obsessions” I guess :obama:

But my point is, many atheists and Muslims have this intense hate for Christians, Christianity and Jesus that can’t be understood.

I just see that trait in you and Muslim apologists. Take it how you want. Just an observation. Not an insult. :manny:
why do you say that

the angel of God met with Joseph (NT) and said to him to take the young child and his mother and flee to Egypt and not return until all that seek the young childs life are dead

its technically a logical quandary. IE if I go to a swamp with alligators would the alligators say to me: MMS we don't seek your life, we are just waiting for you to patiently feed us

@2 Up 2 Down since you posted a video about "Baal" ill show you how the above statement actually is similar to the Baal cycle
Mot, having recovered from being ground up and scattered, challenges Baʿal Hadad
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now mind you in the bronze age, ideas were deified so trying to kill an idea is not easy
 

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This thread isn't hidden so I don't have to seek it out since it's on the first page.
I don't hate Christianity lol that's what you hope so it can fit in your apologetics narrative that atheists are just mad at God :mjlol:.
I love mythology and that includes modern day religions
But we’ve been through this before breh :sas1:

You used to be Christian if I remember correctly so what ever wrong happened in the church MAYBE pushed you to your current beliefs

You also target Paul like most Muslim do.

Islam is very anti the Bible/Jesus and so are atheists because in our society Christianity is a threat

Like I said, it’s just funny the similarities between the two groups and the arguments they use against Jesus and the Bible

I like all the same things you do and have seen all the videos you post so it’s no hard feelings

I kinda find if funny because Ive encounter the same type of people in real life

But these days I don’t really like to argue or debate with Muslims & atheists although I like watching the videos on YouTube :pachaha:
 

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There are two "miracles" that Science accepts as having happened, but cannot explain.

The so called big bang. An easy way to imagine it is one singularity exploding into the entire universe we have now. Seems unbelievable, actually. Another idea is that the big bang was not a single point but more of a cosmos wide happening. The results are essentially the same. Early universe full of only Hydrogen and quickly Helium. Formation of stars which clump into galaxies and create more complex elements inside the stars. And so forth.

The other is DNA. Self replicating super complex molecules. It happened once so far.. since all Earthling life forms are related to one biogenesis event. Seems like new strains of life would happen on Earth countless times if it could happen once.

Science takes these moments for granted but cannot explain how such things could happen.

And since the entire trajectory of creation of elements is toward greater complexity and the development of life is obviously a march toward greater complexity it seems that there is a .. plan.. of some sort. A design.

Call all that what you want but it's real. It's not Greek and Roman mythology. It's not Hindu mythology. It's not Abrahamic religion. Ancient people had an idea of spirituality but these rigid mythological and religious systems are just misguided relics.
 
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