SCOTUS Watch Thread

[Wargames]

Trump is really going to get 5 seats on the SCOTUS. This stupid fukking Country.

It’s to the point if a democrat president nominee doesn’t say they are going to remake the bench by either adding people or making the seats no longer permanent….. you can’t be the nominee

 

[Dillah810]

 

[Trips]

It’s to the point if a democrat president nominee doesn’t say they are going to remake the bench by either adding people or making the seats no longer permanent….. you can’t be the nominee

Only way they can ensure that promise is by having more than a super majority. They would need to have like 75 seats in the Senate to one abolish the filibuster and two be able to get around the regular turncoat votes they always get saddled with on shyt that matters (see Lieberman/Manchin/Sinema/Fetterman). They will also likely need a significant control of the House. Most of the problems we face now is because the margins are too razor thin. But, unlike Republicans the Dems are never in a comfortable position for control.

Also the voting populace regularly punishes the Dems at the ballot box in a way that they never do Republicans. It's why you need like 75 seats in the Senate because not enough Dems are in a safe spot where they can be progressive enough and withstand the backlash of our goldfish brained electorate. Like you look at Senators like Tubberville in Bama, or Hyde Smith in Mississippi they can be as fukkin dumb and obstructive as they want and get re-elected every single time. But, someone like Slotkin votes to expand the SCOTUS and the "economic anxiety/culture war" brained folks in Michigan will vote her out in a heartbeat cause she shook the boat too much.

 

[88m3]

I just feel like this was avoidable. The country was on good path forwards(albeit not perfect) and the people chose to piss it all away. Now we get to live in some white supremacist, ethno-fascist oligarchical hellscape... worst of all while they've consolidated this power they're putting thier thumb on the scale to make the entire world worse and it is killing millions.

 

[WIA20XX]

Dat boy JR stacking them $Ms!!

The Chief Justice and His Wife Took $20 Million From Firms He Rules On. I'm Filing for His Disbarment Today.

And you can too.

cmarmitage.substack.com

 

[FAH1223]

 

[wire28]

Will the winning ever stop for both sides nation?

 

[Wargames]

Only way they can ensure that promise is by having more than a super majority. They would need to have like 75 seats in the Senate to one abolish the filibuster and two be able to get around the regular turncoat votes they always get saddled with on shyt that matters (see Lieberman/Manchin/Sinema/Fetterman). They will also likely need a significant control of the House. Most of the problems we face now is because the margins are too razor thin. But, unlike Republicans the Dems are never in a comfortable position for control.

Also the voting populace regularly punishes the Dems at the ballot box in a way that they never do Republicans. It's why you need like 75 seats in the Senate because not enough Dems are in a safe spot where they can be progressive enough and withstand the backlash of our goldfish brained electorate. Like you look at Senators like Tubberville in Bama, or Hyde Smith in Mississippi they can be as fukkin dumb and obstructive as they want and get re-elected every single time. But, someone like Slotkin votes to expand the SCOTUS and the "economic anxiety/culture war" brained folks in Michigan will vote her out in a heartbeat cause she shook the boat too much.

The democrats are going to have to then get rid of the filibuster, increase the members in house based on constituent amount, and increase the supreme court probably to 15.

You are right about them potentially losing the senate. The way it's set up they would probably lose it regardless. All of this is drastic but we are seeing the republicans do more drastic things to enact unpopular policies.

The increase in the house would make it impossibly to add to the 15 SC justices in the foreseeable future. Cities tend to be blue so adding more congress members by amount of constituents also means the house should be blue for the foreseeable future.

 

[88m3]

Lauren Groh-Wargo, executive director of Fair Fight Action, a Georgia-based voting rights group founded by Democrat and former US representative Stacey Abrams, said the supreme court’s decision “guts” voting rights protection while “pretending to uphold it”.

She said the court rewrote the law to require a showing of intentional discrimination. That’s after Congress in the early 1980s specifically rewrote the Voting Rights Act to overturn an earlier supreme court decision in an Alabama case that tried to do the same thing.

At the time, Chief Justice John Roberts was a justice department attorney advocating for a showing of intentional discrimination.

She said:

It allows states, counties and cities to shield their discriminatory maps by claiming they are advancing their own partisan interests, ignoring that race and party are highly correlated in places across the country, particularly the South.

 

[Wargames]

It's funny cause Trump is so bad it’s clear the supreme court is ruined. They made him a monster but he reflects the fact that they are out of wack.

Whoever the democratic 2028 nominee is he has to be about packing the court and creating more congress house members.

 

[Trips]

It's funny cause Trump is so bad it’s clear the supreme court is ruined. They made him a monster but he reflects the fact that they are out of wack.

Whoever the democratic 2028 nominee is he has to be about packing the court and creating more congress house members.

The economic anxiety/culture war/pearl clutchers and of course the media will fear monger this to a detriment. IT isn't about packing the court as much as it's about being able to actually remove corrupt justices. Alito and Thomas as they are on their way out have been brazen with their corruption. They should be impeached. They should definitely be on the push for increasing vote representation from the Territories and DC. DC having more people than Wyoming and Vermont for example. But Wyoming has at least 2 times the impact with their vote.

If the US refuses to re-balance the Senate or keep the 2 per state bullshyt. They should grant at least 4 Senate seats and some number of Reps with voting rights based on their combined population. That in my opinion still going to ruffle feathers. But, I feel it is a much more winnable fight to do that. Than pack the SCOTUS. That roughly 5 million people between the 5 territories and DC have less say in the government than states like MT, WY, VT, RI, ND, SD etc. is no different than the "silent majority" tries to crow on about because their land vote has more say than CA, or NY.

 

[Wargames]

The economic anxiety/culture war/pearl clutchers and of course the media will fear monger this to a detriment. IT isn't about packing the court as much as it's about being able to actually remove corrupt justices. Alito and Thomas as they are on their way out have been brazen with their corruption. They should be impeached. They should definitely be on the push for increasing vote representation from the Territories and DC. DC having more people than Wyoming and Vermont for example. But Wyoming has at least 2 times the impact with their vote.

If the US refuses to re-balance the Senate or keep the 2 per state bullshyt. They should grant at least 4 Senate seats and some number of Reps with voting rights based on their combined population. That in my opinion still going to ruffle feathers. But, I feel it is a much more winnable fight to do that. Than pack the SCOTUS. That roughly 5 million people between the 5 territories and DC have less say in the government than states like MT, WY, VT, RI, ND, SD etc. is no different than the "silent majority" tries to crow on about because their land vote has more say than CA, or NY.

You are not wrong but all of those require things are significantly more difficult. With the removal of the filibuster if the Democrats have the majority in the house and senate and the White House they can vote to add 6 judges and house members based on constituent population. It's a quick fix because by 2030 it should be assumed that the gerrymandering going into effect now will be fully in place and the game will be rigged against democrats going forward.

 

[wire28]

You are not wrong but all of those require things are significantly more difficult. With the removal of the filibuster if the Democrats have the majority in the house and senate and the White House they can vote to add 6 judges and house members based on constituent population. It's a quick fix because by 2030 it should be assumed that the gerrymandering going into effect now will be fully in place and the game will be rigged against democrats going forward.

Add popular vote while you are at it because the electoral college will be unwinnable in 2032.

 

[Hood Critic]

 

[Ozymandeas]

I just feel like this was avoidable. The country was on good path forwards(albeit not perfect) and the people chose to piss it all away. Now we get to live in some white supremacist, ethno-fascist oligarchical hellscape... worst of all while they've consolidated this power they're putting thier thumb on the scale to make the entire world worse and it is killing millions.

All because Leftists and BothSiders had to have perfection, now they have destruction