Sean Price was the catalyst for the underground/street rap resurgence
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Lupe and Kendrick are not the same type of artist or rappers at all
They don't even cover the same content, so you can't even say they the same in that.
The comparison of those two is and always has been stupid
You nikkas is legit basing comparing those two simply cause their not gangsta rappers that had mainstream hits. And aesthetic (which isn't the same between the two)
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
not just that.
Bcc singlehandlidly created hiphop and rap as a entrepreneur based online business on the internet .
it was not tony d at all.
shyt bcc may have been the first online business.
or one of the very very first pioneers online who had a draw.
bcc does not get their proper props.
which i have talked about indepthly from trying to unify hiphop and end gangs nationwide with tuoac and busta rhymes that never happened.
sometimes i think about what if they would have got pac to really committ to being a real.bbou. Not a cliche one syllable ice cube on interscope solo based prison industrial economy communications act gateway gangsta rapper.
that nikka just had to be fukk'n with gangs.
when we as gangstas are not supposed to be in the set no more.
after committing to a pillar.
plus Pac was from digital who from queens.
including the fact Pac from Oakland and not la.
so for him to clique up and be with any gangs as a transplant was flaw already.
why he played up to the camera and was impressionable like that.
even if he was signed on notebook paper made no sense.
He was pac. He ain't have to do no gang shyt. He should have been neutron period.
he should have been the neutron rapper on death row.
like ice t told him to be.
but no.
instead that whole shyt lost and it really is no way to walk it back and out of existence.
plus there is no structure anymore and the government has all of anything hoover made to try to change things too. So there is no way to fix any of this shyt.
the shyt disheartening as fukk.
they really fukked us up with this prison industrial economy shyt with pac.
I hate that.
RUTHLESS RECORDS RUNS THE WORLD.
art barr
Bcc singlehandlidly created hiphop and rap as a entrepreneur based online business on the internet .
it was not tony d at all.
shyt bcc may have been the first online business.
or one of the very very first pioneers online who had a draw.
bcc does not get their proper props.
which i have talked about indepthly from trying to unify hiphop and end gangs nationwide with tuoac and busta rhymes that never happened.
sometimes i think about what if they would have got pac to really committ to being a real.bbou. Not a cliche one syllable ice cube on interscope solo based prison industrial economy communications act gateway gangsta rapper.
that nikka just had to be fukk'n with gangs.
when we as gangstas are not supposed to be in the set no more.
after committing to a pillar.
plus Pac was from digital who from queens.
including the fact Pac from Oakland and not la.
so for him to clique up and be with any gangs as a transplant was flaw already.
why he played up to the camera and was impressionable like that.
even if he was signed on notebook paper made no sense.
He was pac. He ain't have to do no gang shyt. He should have been neutron period.
he should have been the neutron rapper on death row.
like ice t told him to be.
but no.
instead that whole shyt lost and it really is no way to walk it back and out of existence.
plus there is no structure anymore and the government has all of anything hoover made to try to change things too. So there is no way to fix any of this shyt.
the shyt disheartening as fukk.
they really fukked us up with this prison industrial economy shyt with pac.
I hate that.
RUTHLESS RECORDS RUNS THE WORLD.
art barr
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eh, i always felt hevwas a mix between Lupe and Andre 3000Lupe and Kendrick are not the same type of artist or rappers at all
They don't even cover the same content, so you can't even say they the same in that.
The comparison of those two is and always has been stupid
You nikkas is legit basing comparing those two simply cause their not gangsta rappers that had mainstream hits. And aesthetic (which isn't the same between the two)
It sounds fukked up but back when I was on pain pills before I got clean, I have vivid memories of riding on the highway like an hour to go pick up some Percocets listening to Monkey Barz on the way there. Low key Sean P for better or worse was one of the first rappers to talk about using drugs instead of selling them. I asked him and he said he played it up for the character, so I don't think he really did as much drugs as he talked about, and he didn't talk about to the extent of someone like Wayne. It's embarrassing to say, but Sean P was kind of dope to listen to as a fukk up.
I'm not sure any artists has balanced talking about ignorant and stupid shyt while combining it with humor, and then sprinkling goonery on top for good measure.
I love this flip on the STFU Part 2 songs.
Pop's a drinker, my mom's on dope
Pick up they bad habit, now the God do both
Popping some pills, sniffing a line, drinking some wine
Up in the club, grabbing my gun, fukking with Shyne
I never did any heavy drugs but if I did, I would definitely be listening to "Boom Bye Yeah" to hype me up on the way there
Good thread. Got me reminiscing about the good times I had listening to "Monkey Barz" and "Mic Tyson", my favourite projects by Sean P.
Definitely believe P would be thriving in this internet/hype beast era of music. Like people said, while Roc Marci might have been the creator of the current underground sound, it was P who showed how it could be done - by reinventing yourself and dropping dope fukking music. Also the emphasis on cool artwork (Monkey Barz), with the comic book theme was pretty ahead of the curve looking back on it. He didn't usher a new sound (his production was pretty much the same as other underground artists at the time), but he did kind of make it cool for a "street" rapper to be underground.
Definitely believe P would be thriving in this internet/hype beast era of music. Like people said, while Roc Marci might have been the creator of the current underground sound, it was P who showed how it could be done - by reinventing yourself and dropping dope fukking music. Also the emphasis on cool artwork (Monkey Barz), with the comic book theme was pretty ahead of the curve looking back on it. He didn't usher a new sound (his production was pretty much the same as other underground artists at the time), but he did kind of make it cool for a "street" rapper to be underground.
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Playaz Eyez
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Monkey Barz came out in 2005. The apex of underground rap was probably 2007, then basically disappeared for years. Whether it’s Macberg or Reloaded, it was definitely Roc Marciano, and I think it’s more Reloaded than anything. That album was getting rave reviews and that pretty much led to Griselda switching their style up to build what they have today.
BmoreGorilla
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The BCC fukked themselves with that For The People album. They were on the verge of blowing up and that killed all the momentum
TheDarceKnight
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Most of the people that prefer Marcberg were lucky enough to catch it when it dropped. I caught it after the Snow Remix so I was a bit late. I think Marcberg is a little harder and more raw, but Reloaded is definitely where he mastered the style and sound that he was going for.
He influenced producers on that too. Not just rappers. Truly a game changing album.
TheDarceKnight
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Funny thing about that first 9th and Buck album is everyone had been telling him to change his drums and on there he finally did. Then on forums people said the drums were worse than ever
he sure was and buckshot mentioned this same point in an interview. He said, P came back( post BCC album) with a movement which will create more artists to be themselves and be INDIE with great cult fans supporting..gospel.
@New Jeruzalem Journalist your take on it Akhi?
@New Jeruzalem Journalist your take on it Akhi?
TheDarceKnight
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I really think he’s gonna do it. He can’t go the young producer/Hit-Boy/polished sound route as easily now either. He’d want to do something to distinguish himself from Nas.I had to quote this just in case this comes true bro
"The Price of Nutcrackers in Harlem" coming soon
He’s taken photos with Mach-Hommy for social media clout. He’s showing up at Griselda shows pulling Conway aside to ask about specific tracks. He’s telling Boldy James that he’s got an incredible pen game, and how Tea in China is his AOTY. He finally worked with Alc for the first time this year on Written Testimony. He’s got Benny signed to Roc Nation. That sound/style is big and accepted enough now to where people wouldn’t be thrown off by it if he did it.
He’s laid the foundation and all the pieces are in place for Jay to drop an modern-underground sounding album without it seeming forced.
what about jedi mind tricks??
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Jedi mind tricks is much much later after tony d.
plus they are looked at as underground to online to hiphopinfinity emo gateway artist.
art barr
yes yes yes..so many artists gave way to these dude's..
but i am more referring to the resurgence of indie hip hop..not doom and rawkus label etc..
