Sean Price was the catalyst for the underground/street rap resurgence

[Art Barr]

The BCC fukked themselves with that For The People album. They were on the verge of blowing up and that killed all the momentum

I forget which album that is in the discography.
as blackmoon and the bcc other than price.
price, who we can say was separate in draw.
around that time in perception as a stand alone solo artist.
bcc and black moon to buckshot.
did not make a record worth a damn.
till the buck and Krs joint after the first album as far as quality listen.
most of the styles war emcees.
who transitioned in the technical revolution and change of sonic landscape ushered in by nas.
did not transistion well at all as a quality listen.
bcc as a clique based draw was one of them.

mr Sam,...
mentions or created this thread.
to point out that as well.
so bcc had things in order online bitneas wise.
just suffered as a clique to create music. After the change in landacaoe ushered them into a nondrawing phase. When they were not initially ready to be compatible with the sonic landscapes as emcees/artist in that time frame.



art barr




art barr

 

[Art Barr]

yes yes yes..so many artists gave way to these dude's..

but i am more referring to the resurgence of indie hip hop..not doom and rawkus label etc..

do you mean in the original hiphopsite.com era before they became a store. Or do you mean in the gateway era start of hhi.com. As Jedi had a bump in draw from both those times. As they were a holdover.
from the original hiphopsite.com era.
after tony d and post bcc online mailing newsletter.
To the next era that rolled into rawkus to hiphopinfinity.com/fard.



art barr

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

do you mean in the original hiphopsite.com era before they became a store. Or do you mean in the gateway era start of hhi.com. As Jedi had a bump in draw from both those times. As they were a holdover.
from the original hiphopsite.com era.
after tony d and post bcc online mailing newsletter.
To the next era that rolled into rawkus to hiphopinfinity.com/fard.



art barr

fukk off Art its too early brother!!!

love peace.

 

[Art Barr]

fukk off Art its too early brother!!!

love peace.

is that to much short indepth.
real time recollection of history for you, breh?


art barr

 

[Piff Perkins]

I agree the underground existed before Sean Price, that's a fact. But I feel like Sean Price was one of the noteworthy underground rappers who didn't fit into the stereotypes that had been formed about the underground for years/decades. He wasn't a backpacker, rapping over wack beats about kings and queens. He was a hood dude rapping about beating people up and being rugged. He defied the "real hip hop" box, at a time when a lot of people acted like "real hip hop" meant NOT rapping about the things Sean Price was rapping about.

I feel like that underground NY revival we saw in the early 2010s - think Roc Marci, Bronson, Meyhem, Maffew Ragazino, Exquire, etc - can be traced from Price.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

is that to much short indepth.
real time recollection of history for you, breh?


art barr

had a mad little session late night Mo..all wise and all indeed understood. I agree.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

How did Sean Price voice and flow change so much after Heltah Skelta?

shyt was mad different
Then he started sounding like Big Pun

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

How did Sean Price voice and flow change so much after Heltah Skelta?

shyt was mad different
Then he started sounding like Big Pun

health issues duh?

 

[BmoreGorilla]

I forget which album that is in the discography.
as blackmoon and the bcc other than price.
price, who we can say was separate in draw.
around that time in perception as a stand alone solo artist.
bcc and black moon to buckshot.
did not make a record worth a damn.
till the buck and Krs joint after the first album as far as quality listen.
most of the styles war emcees.
who transitioned in the technical revolution and change of sonic landscape ushered in by nas.
did not transistion well at all as a quality listen.
bcc as a clique based draw was one of them.

mr Sam,...
mentions or created this thread.
to point out that as well.
so bcc had things in order online bitneas wise.
just suffered as a clique to create music. After the change in landacaoe ushered them into a nondrawing phase. When they were not initially ready to be compatible with the sonic landscapes as emcees/artist in that time frame.



art barr




art barr

For the People was the group album that came out in 97 that was highly anticipated after Black Moon, Smif N Wesson, Heltah Skeltah, and OGC all release albums. They had created their own sound based around Da Beatminzerz production but completely abandoned it on that group alum. Then they release a string of forgettable albums like the Coco Brovas, the second OGC album, the second Black Moon album and that Buckshot BDI solo album. Only album that was really up to par was the second Heltah Skeltah album. They were kinda written off til the second BCC album The Chosen Few which I felt was underrated. Then they had a resurgence when they hooked up with 9th Wonder and them and Sean reinvented himself

 

[GPBear]

Sean Price is nicest on mic devices

Ghost and Rae too obviously heavily inspired the whole movement.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

I agree the underground existed before Sean Price, that's a fact. But I feel like Sean Price was one of the noteworthy underground rappers who didn't fit into the stereotypes that had been formed about the underground for years/decades. He wasn't a backpacker, rapping over wack beats about kings and queens. He was a hood dude rapping about beating people up and being rugged. He defied the "real hip hop" box, at a time when a lot of people acted like "real hip hop" meant NOT rapping about the things Sean Price was rapping about.

I feel like that underground NY revival we saw in the early 2010s - think Roc Marci, Bronson, Meyhem, Maffew Ragazino, Exquire, etc - can be traced from Price.

I feel like what was underground became a stereotype mainly due to Rawkus. They spearheaded that whole nerdy rap backpacker image. Before that underground really was strictly about not trying to crossover

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Sean Price is nicest on mic devices

Ghost and Rae too obviously heavily inspired the whole movement.

I wouldn’t say all that. If that’s the case we gotta give all props to Kool G Rap

 

[GPBear]

I wouldn’t say all that. If that’s the case we gotta give all props to Kool G Rap

Check my signature

90s rap wouldn't have happened without Kool G, but I don't see his influence on the modern guys as much as the generation like Nas and Big.

I meant Rae and Ghost influenced the new movement because they'd rock weird beats while wearing over-the-top fly shyt and rapping about selling coke in really esoteric ways.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I feel like what was underground became a stereotype mainly due to Rawkus. They spearheaded that whole nerdy rap backpacker image. Before that underground really was strictly about not trying to crossover

You and @Piff Perkins make great points on this stuff. I never considered it but I agree with you guys.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

health issues duh?

So health issues changed the cadence of his raps?