See what happens when you surround Bron with nikkas who know their role

[UpAndComing]

He didn’t need help to run your team out the building a few days ago

When Celtics blew the Cavs out earlier this year, you weren't saying shyt though

 

[camer999]

The nerve of those LeStans man

It was one game like that, game 3

The Warriors beat the Cavs in the 2 minutes LeBron James was on the bench

Not a single other one

And we all know how Game 3 ended

One guy was scared of the moment so he decided to make "the right basketball play"
Then deferred to Kyrie hoping he'd bailed out again
Then got stripped by Iguodala and kicked him in the nuts out of anger

We all know what his rival did tho

He is wrong but not that wrong, with lebron on the floor the cavs were 117 points per possession vs the warriors 118. It's crazy to think bron by himself is essentially on last years warriors heals, but it went to shyt with the bench.

 

[KingJay]

Yeah, make sure these nikkas know their place :mjglare::2mj2pls:

 

[The Fire]

Might be the premier bench scoring wise

nope, that’s the rockets and raptors

 

[Black Haven]

Serge Ibaka led the league in blocks back-to-back years, was DPOY runner-up, three straight 1st-team All-Defensive, and averaging 14-15ppg a year on top of all that...and yet Durant's team was so stacked that he's an afterthought in these discussions.

Westbrook was a perennial All-star, 1st-team or 2nd-team All-NBA every year from 2011 to 2016, but he "doesn't count" because he was young.

Harden was a double-digit scorer from the moment he entered the league, 17-4-4 his last year with Durant, 6th Man of the Year...doesn't count either.


Lebron was beating Durant back when he had this ugly ass roster while Durant was sporting Westbrook, Ibaka, Harden, Jeff Green, and Thabo. Oh, he did it on this day too, scoring 44 when Mo Williams was the only other Cav in double digits.

Miami Lebron went and beat him on days like this when no one else on the roster was doing anything. And that wasn't an abnormal day.

The Lebron went back to Cleveland and kept beating Durant. Even on days when Kyrie hardly played, or even was out and Tristan Thompson was the #2 scorer.

This whole "Lebron had better squads" crap is ridiculous when Lebron played for three different teams over that stretch and Durant always had stacked squads. Sometimes you CAN make an argument that a team just is at a mismatch talent-wise, but OKC cannot make that argument. Even in 2012, when they were young, they blew through the rest of the league and were at least even talent-wise with Miami. Even in 2016, when Harden wasn't there anymore, Golden State called them the best team they played all year. They were NOT at a talent deficit.

And that was after they lost to the Cavs in the finals so that tells you alot.

 

[Rigby.]

nope, that’s the rockets and raptors

I haven’t watched the Raps but Rockets got Gerald and Gordon, Clarkson is marginally lesser as a scorer than Gordon and Hood at his Best is better than Gerald in that department. This isn’t factoring Korver who already proved how much of a game breaker he is, or the fact that Osman will be joining this bench unit once Love comes back. As of now they’re marginally better (id even say marginally worse for argument sakes) but they should certainly be better by the end of the season

 

[Rigby.]

all they need is to have some consistent bench scoring, because last year the games would turn into blowouts once lebron sat

Yeah that was a bigger issue for
Games 3 and 5 than defense was. They figured out defense ENOUGH to beat that squad, and that squad played a lot more passioned than this GSW team has thus far.

 

[The Fire]

I haven’t watched the Raps but Rockets got Gerald and Gordon, Clarkson is marginally lesser as a scorer than Gordon and Hood at his Best is better than Gerald in that department. This isn’t factoring Korver who already proved how much of a game breaker he is, or the fact that Osman will be joining this bench unit once Love comes back. As of now they’re marginally better (id even say marginally worse for argument sakes) but they should certainly be better by the end of the season

And Before yesterday’s Miami game:



best bench in the league easily

 

[Rigby.]

And Before yesterday’s Miami game:



best bench in the league easily

I literally just said Im not arguing the raptors I know based on the eye test that both the Cs and OKC games were blown open due to Cleveland's bench, and shytting on two top 5 teams makes their bench extremely competitive for the #1 spot

 

[threattonature]

He is wrong but not that wrong, with lebron on the floor the cavs were 117 points per possession vs the warriors 118. It's crazy to think bron by himself is essentially on last years warriors heals, but it went to shyt with the bench.

That's heavily skewed by Lebron's +32 in Game 4 last year. Outside of that one game it wasn't close even with Lebron on the floor.

 

[bl2k8]

The Cavs looking right now, these new guys feeding off Bron well and are hungry asf, no egotistical wannabe Kobes

You realize the reason the Cavs were in the fukked up position they were before was because LeBron couldn’t pick up the phone to make it work with the superstar that they actually had

 

[Mad Good Dro]

You realize the reason the Cavs were in the fukked up position they were before was because LeBron couldn’t pick up the phone to make it work with the superstar that they actually had

Looks like they gonna be better off down the road than with just having kyrie so it was probably best he didn't.

 

[camer999]

That's heavily skewed by Lebron's +32 in Game 4 last year. Outside of that one game it wasn't close even with Lebron on the floor.

Fair enough, overwhelming talent is overwhelming. Define, wasn't even close though,

 

[LV Koopa]

I haven’t watched the Raps but Rockets got Gerald and Gordon, Clarkson is marginally lesser as a scorer than Gordon and Hood at his Best is better than Gerald in that department. This isn’t factoring Korver who already proved how much of a game breaker he is, or the fact that Osman will be joining this bench unit once Love comes back. As of now they’re marginally better (id even say marginally worse for argument sakes) but they should certainly be better by the end of the season

The Rockets run their bench unit with Harden or Paul. The Cavs have no shot vs them or GS. You really think Rodney fukking Hood and Cedi Osman going to outplay a bench helping to a wild record?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

That's heavily skewed by Lebron's +32 in Game 4 last year. Outside of that one game it wasn't close even with Lebron on the floor.

How'd you forget about Game 3 so quickly?

I agree, the talent was heavily weighted in Golden State's favor, but you can't deny that Lebron's lineups beat the Warriors in both games in Cleveland.

At home in the Finals: +40 with Bron, -24 without Bron.