This is clearly not the norm, you're being ridiculous..
If you read further, you'd see I expanded by saying "
And while it may be not as horrific as it is now - when it evens out it isn't going much better - in terms of where he sits in relation to the rest of the league." = meaning I don't except him to be this visually harrowing forever, though it's unlikely he'll start joining the 2nd-tier of PGs (in terms of scoring) in the future.
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I wasn't speaking in terms of exceptions, In room for manoeuvre I'm referring to a spectrum along which all players fall in different places. A binary of clutch and not clutch isn't a realistic reflection of how things actually work. Funnily enough his best clutch season was 12/13 suggesting that when taking a more prominent role on a competitive team he can be effective in the late game. Context (rules everything around me). A player like Melo isn't as bad as he looks right now but with a further depleted roster and a drastically new system where his usual shots don't materialise in the same way he struggles monumentally.
Why are you doing this? Melo has already proven himself as capable/#1 scorer in the clutch, Rondo hasn't. There's no parallels between the two, I don't know why you're acting as if there's a savepoint with Rondo, there never has been and there likely never will be. Funnily enough he was #130 in clutch scoring in 12/13 on 38% shooting + he was 4th/5th on his own team (he wasn't in a more prominent role during that season) - which essentially isn't effective by any stretch of the imagination. You're using a pretext as if a 'competitive' team works with the inclusion of him, it doesn't - we're seeing why when he's asked to be essentially the #1 option by design - he comes up short.
13/14 season - 0.5 points on 19.2% shooting - #269 in the league
14/14 season - 0.4 points on 9% shooting - #226 in the league
Melo is #15 in the league - with 3.2 points on 45% shooting - the best statistically he's been since arriving in New York. So it's not nearly as bad you thought it was, and it certainly isn't an appropriate comparison to use for Rondo.
Ok then lets look at the big picture. He's only shot less than league average on long jumpers twice since 07/08. A large part of why the tag stuck is the Obama comment.
Which was basically the bare minimum for the amount of times he handles the ball. He doesn't take enough jumpers to give an accurate reflection of his ability as a #1 option.
It wasn't really a matter of making some massive jump, more a matter of being more aggressive and paying a little more attention to his own offense. Aside from shooting the 3 a lot of the things you're crediting Conley for weren't true when you said them. He wasn't a particularly great finisher despite his dexterity, he didn't shoot the midrange as well as Rondo and he didn't (and probably still doesn't) have a wider variety of finishing moves in the paint.
Lets have a look at the jumpshot numbers shall we?
Rondo: 282 attempts completing at 40%
Conley: 762 attempts completing at 37%
Conley took over TWO AND A HALF TIMES more jumpers and there's only a 3% difference.
Same goes for overall shots, Conley had twice the amount that Rondo did (only a 4% FG difference) and you have the nerve to sit there and tell me that it was ridiculous to suggest that Conley had a 'larger/more varied shooting/scoring skillset and was patently more of a scoring threat' than him.
No, you're essentially misunderstanding me when if you've seen him play over the years what I'm referring to should be pretty obvious. The unorthodoxy of a many of his attempts. Its as simple as that. he tries a lot of different things to get the ball in the hoop.
I gave you a list followed by "
All of the above PGs have a larger scoring-repertoire and are patently bigger scoring threats", this tenebrous picture of him being unorthodox as if it were some hipster-specious skillset doesn't run over a player that took twice the amount of shots, in more situations, occasions, from more areas on the floor and completed them at a relatively same %.
I have facts, what you have is some erroneous explanation for his shortcomings as a scorer.
Don't kid yourself, there was no spotlight, they were already a lottery team with no definitive structure where anybody had free license to jack up threes by the time he came back.
Spotlight meaning that there's no Pierce, KG or Allen on his time anymore and he'd be the #1 player.
Last seasons team was decidedly broken and you know it. The tools weren't there for any kind of turnaround..
2013-14 NBA season -
without Rondo
19 wins 33 loses
win percentage 36%
with Rondo
6 wins 24 losses
win percentage 20%
This season is a different story and we won't really see what he's working with until he hits some kind of form, whatever that ends up looking like. Same thing with Rose. We won't be able to gauge where he's at until we've seen him on a consistent run of form over an extended stretch of games. There's no writing on the wall the story is constantly changing.
Nope. Once. Again. Don't use players as a comparison that have already proven themselves in this situation. The writing was on the wall when he was the 3rd/4th option playing with KG,PP,RA. He's never going to be that dude when it comes to carrying a team through playmaking/scoring, he just isn't that type of player.
See, this is the problem with dredging up old arguments constantly and rehashing them in completely different contexts. At the time this was about him in that Celtics team as then constructed. The argument stood in those terms and the talk of the day was how Rondo should step up with KG and PP taking a back seat and as such only makes sense in those terms. You can't just retroactively decide otherwise by acting as if factors you didn't explicitly refer to were implied..
It revolved around him being the #1 player and when KG/PP declined more - how would he deal with playing more of a role from then onwards - it only makes sense that he wasn't always going to play with them for the rest of his career. He would need to go down this road whether he was still with PP/KG or not. What you're essentially saying by arguing this frivolous point is that there'd never be a time in his career when he'd inevitably part from those two and that system and have to stand on his own two feet.
I don't get why this is so hard to understand.
Again, then how exactly is that "the norm"? He didn't shoot this poorly in his rookie year so clearly something is up and yeah, playing on an uncompetitive team has something to do with it but beyond that he's a lot more hesitant driving to the hoop and outside of Zeller his pnr chemistry with the other bigs has been very messy and as that's where he's been most effective in the past we're now seeing him struggle.
He didn't have this responsibility for starters in his rookie year. That's why he's managed to have a high FG% over his career, because of his limited role. We're seeing him struggle because his flaws are out in full view, it's as simple as that.
I would have demanded they trade me on the spot, fukk that shyt, right after the contract ended I would leave fukk these nikkas... 
