*Serious Opinion* African Americans (youth) are losing our tradition/culture

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I think tradition and culture are cool but people put wayyyyyy to much pride in that shyt.If we put pride in things that actually mattered the world would be such a great place

I can talk about tech, science, health etc all day long, can you do that tho?

fukk the usual gay politics, lame news, average sports, weak entertainment etc, can you make so called boring shyt interesting?

All that you said about tradition and culture is easy to say but can you do the opposite tho, I seriously doubt it.
 
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Nikas be telling on themselves:scust:@ these dismissive and nonchalant attitudes towards the importance of culture and traditions

Any culture and tradition that "changes" was already unstable and pliable, thus doom to disappear
Any culture and tradition that "adapts" is stable and obstinate, thus will exist

One is based on accountability and consistency to ensure longevity because outside influence is very limited and measured, while the other is heavily influenced by outsiders who enact what's acceptable, what's important etc

Black culture always been for sale and thus have been heavily influenced by outsiders
You can't sustain longevity if you're afraid of being labeled a hater/too old/too young/naive when holding folks accountable for violations of the culture/traditions, especially when culture/traditions was shaped by outside influence
imagine trying to empower and build community with folks that don't appreciate the stability that comes with culture and tradition...this is another reason to abandon identity politics so to not allow these type to manipulate you


I agree. And social media dosent help. Everytime we create something (dance, saying, fashion etc.) Cacs already adopt the shyt day one and play it out. Back in the day it used to take a minute for cacs to figure out our lingos, fashions, mannerisms, and all that. It felt like it was more of a code culturally. Also, the pro black msg we used to line most of our creations w/ (sitcoms, movies, fashion) has been omitted
...but it's Black folks trying to get access using whatever they can for a comeup. There's nothing that's off limits to secure the bag
 

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Nikas be telling on themselves:scust:@ these dismissive and nonchalant attitudes towards the importance of culture and traditions

Any culture and tradition that "changes" was already unstable and pliable, thus doom to disappear
Any culture and tradition that "adapts" is stable and obstinate, thus will exist

One is based on accountability and consistency to ensure longevity because outside influence is very limited and measured, while the other is heavily influenced by outsiders who enact what's acceptable, what's important etc

Black culture always been for sale and thus have been heavily influenced by outsiders
You can't sustain longevity if you're afraid of being labeled a hater/too old/too young/naive when holding folks accountable for violations of the culture/traditions, especially when culture/traditions was shaped by outside influence
imagine trying to empower and build community with folks that don't appreciate the stability that comes with culture and tradition...this is another reason to abandon identity politics so to not allow these type to manipulate you



...but it's Black folks trying to get access using whatever they can for a comeup. There's nothing that's off limits to secure the bag
This is the problem rn
 

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I'm hearing this a lot lately. Even TBA 's recent 3-17 show about Murder Mook, he was saying the same thing, that NYC "black people" have lost themselves. As an old head, I'll say this.

1. The culture of NYC blacks differs greatly by neighborhood, sometimes by block. Harlem in the 80's and 90's was essentially a colony of the Carolinas with some PR's mixed in. Vs Bk, where the AA enclaves experience a steady erosion due to black immigrants. Harlem has since experienced the same, with black latinos (who are many) and Africans, less WI's.

2. ADOS have been shamed into submission. We used to be more resistant to the cultural changes engendered by proximity to other black ethnicities. The 2000's have been an era of assimilation for us. You could say it started slightly after the Bad Boy Era, say, Puffy and J- Lo time.

3. As a 2nd gen AA still in Harlem, I still see signs of us. If you hear music playing in the street in Harlem (a common occurrence), it's likely ours. Just the other day, I hear somebody playing Tevin Campbell. :skip: And then a girl with a nice voice sang along as she walked, so it was double ADOS activities. :pachaha:


Or in the summertime, we still get trucks of old ADOS men who come from SC with boiled peanuts and other ADOS delicacies.


4. Our influence here is waning because we stopped seeing ourselves clearly, as our own ethnicity. We've been voluntarily subsumed. For example, we didn't know enough to consider the fact that letting our own salons die in order to, succesively, get braids from the Africans and then get doobies from the Dominicans, was not a good long term plan. In our naivete, we just saw them as black-adjacent, cousins. We didn't know both groups were shytting on us in, successively, French and Spanish.

I blame our pan Africanist elders. See, pan Africanism is cool as an ideology when you still have your own spaces. Instead, we jumped in with two feet. Ex: note how many old nikkas in Harlem still be walking around wearing "African" clothes like it's the damn 70's. They were ripe for the picking. During the period when the black immigrants were coming up legally, we were doing illegal shyt. Unlike the Dominicans, tho, we didn't know enough to launder the proceeds. Probably bc our elders didn't know, too busy protecting their families from the ravages of crack et al, ruminating on ancient Kemet, or program- pimping.

5. NYC itself. Being locked out economically for so long has it's effects. Watching everybody come in and get it has its effect, especially on our children. They've become increasingly mercenary, a pre-cursor of the money-hungry undercurrent of several modern black movements (incl black feminists and the new-to-us assortive mating). The same way the financial crisis, imho, stemmed from NY/ Wall St style, no-holds- barred capitalism* and filtered out to the rest of the country, NY style money- hunger has filtered out as well.

*my own theory, borne out by the fact that, by time the rest of the country could absorb what had happened (2016), the nominees of both parties were NY'ers, presumably more well- versed in the economic storm that had hit us.

I always said, afram new yorkers suffer from the lack of ados cultural clarity, the most in this country
Nothing but facts in that post
 

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I wouldn't say losing our culture, but more like any and every thing we do is immediately copied. ADOS kids are still the ones driving a lot youth culture. A lot of other ethnicities are the ones losing their culture trying to be us. A lot of their cultures are reduced to like an Americanized holiday version of their "culture". 364 days a year they copy black kids; sagging, "nikka", hiphop clothes...then 1 day out of the year it's something l like "philipino day" and they throw on some gear from their homeland and take pics and act like they living that culture.
 

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Alot of people I heard from say that it's like 65% nonADOS and 35% ADOS

Especially as it seems Blacks in media and who u see and hear about are nonADOS
And we're losing ados to the south every year. Basically in the middle of a reverse great migration right now

As far as this Ados shyt- Black new yorkers are like the people in the movies, who time travel back into the past to warn people about an impending doom. The danger is already upon us. This shyt is real
 
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