Serious Question: How do we grade Drake as an MC now?

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this is also a great album

but we know Dre ain't write shyt



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love that album as well.
i still have to see a respected best lyricist/mc list with dre on it.
he most probably will be on a cacplex,cacfork, mtv,etc.. hottest{insert made up white people shyt here} list though
that is where drake belongs as well along with britney,christina,katy,etc...
:manny:it is what it is.
:francis:blame meek for tarnishing a reputation,because he had one of his twitter moments!!
 

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Well at least Drake is showing us one thing. A lot of people don't care about the creativity of artistic talent. They just care about Image/charisma etc


you better believe

bet your bottom dollar

that when discussions about "best" come up his name will be thrown around and his integrity and legitimacy as a writer will be brought up
 

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it ain't just about the writing either. He has dudes showing him word for word the flows etc. @CleinB


Man listen

Got damn Q Miller handed him a bag of swag: full of flow, cadence, mic presence, and breath control

Trust me... I get it

When I heard the reference tracks it put everything into perspective for me as a listener

That's why I made this thread.... Drake is a got damn method actor and a great performer


HOW DO WE GRADE HIM
 
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Man listen

Got damn Q Miller handed him a bag of swag: full of flow, cadence, mic presence, and breath control

Trust me... I get it

When I heard the reference tracks it put everything into perspective for me as a listener

That's why I made this thread.... Drake is a got damn method actor and a great performer


HOW DO WE GRADE HIM

Don't forget he stole other people's dance moves also. :heh:
 

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I just cannot place somebody in the top tier who has raps written for him and needs flows and deliveries taught to him. All that should come natural as an MC and Drake makes a mockery of the tradition. We can't properly quantify his abilities as a rapper because we don't know what he wrote and what he didn't.

Example: That Big Amount verse. Dope as hell and any other rapper would get the utmost credit for me, but since it's Drake I can't give him 100% credit. Yea, maybe he did write it, but I highly doubt it lol
 

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Ehhh.... Not an "emcee" but as an artist top 5, top 5, top 5. Not gonna get into it too far because you can't have intelligent discussion on here. But I never looked at him like a lyrical miracle emcee. As an artist he's great. He can move in LOTS of different lanes.
 
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love that album as well.
i still have to see a respected best lyricist/mc list with dre on it.
he most probably will be on a cacplex,cacfork, mtv,etc.. hottest{insert made up white people shyt here} list though
that is where drake belongs as well along with britney,christina,katy,etc...
:manny:it is what it is.
:francis:blame meek for tarnishing a reputation,because he had one of his twitter moments!!

Meek did what he had to do last month with that performance on funk flex. I dont even rate him that high, but those 7 minutes were classic and really important for hiphop.
 

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I just cannot place somebody in the top tier who has raps written for him and needs flows and deliveries taught to him. All that should come natural as an MC and Drake makes a mockery of the tradition. We can't properly quantify his abilities as a rapper because we don't know what he wrote and what he didn't.

Example: That Big Amount verse. Dope as hell and any other rapper would get the utmost credit for me, but since it's Drake I can't give him 100% credit. Yea, maybe he did write it, but I highly doubt it lol


Man that's my thing...

Buddy make great music... NOT good music... Great music

but now I find myself wondering like who wrote it.... Who am I really listening to....

His music is undeniable.... He's going down in hip hop history as best something.... but what?
 

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Man that's my thing...

Buddy make great music... NOT good music... Great music

but now I find myself wondering like who wrote it.... Who am I really listening to....

His music is undeniable.... He's going down in hip hop history as best something.... but what?

What we have with him is very unprecedented in Hip Hop. He's gonna create his own place in history, unfortunately.
 
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