Serious question.. why aren't The Beastie Boys exactly "respected" amongst hip hop heads?

[Frida Giezman]

Fight for your right was one of the first hip hop songs I had on tape as a small child

Damn I'm old lol

 

[born2bewired]

say what you want about the beastie boys but they are some of the only rappers who can pull off the rap rock thing.

 

[Music Fiend]

They aren't respected because they were the product of white money hungry labels and producers who took a black/urban art form and thought to themselves how hard it was to get supporters to come to shows and listen to "black music" around black ppl, easy it would be to sell a white version of hip hop, where jake from the burbs can be a part of hip hop and be "safe" around whites at a show.

In context, their first album painted a caricature of hip hop at the tine. They took the stereotype of rap and their styles/flows and almost made a mockery of it, which they never did again the first album.

Still hard to respect appropriation.

 

[MikeyC]

Because, just like Eminem and Drake, their legend has been skewed by both suburban, corny, part-time rap listeners and faux-militant, corny, @ridedolo type rap listeners.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

White boys who did rock/punk crossed over into rap thanks to Rick Rubin.

They had a debut that had major impact being that rap was new.

The generation that followed wasnt feeling the beasties and they fell back into rap obscurity only to be supported by thier punk rock foundation and new found rap demographic.

Basically cacs supporting cacs...

 

[the cac mamba]

its probably because theyre fukkin awful. i cant stand to listen to these dudes for more than a minute, shyt is absolute trash. the yelling, the voices, all just awful

that wasnt Dr. Dre..

that was Dre from Yo! MTV Raps..

 

[Trey0'5Blue2Gz]

So much misinformation and corny shyt in this thread.

Dr.Dre dj'd for the Beastie boys?

Beastie boys took PE on tour?

What do you actually mean by, they don't get respect? I'm assuming you mean they don't get mentioned. Because prior to this I've seen minimal, if any, disrespect towards the Beastie Boys

 

[Hannibal Fox]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, threads like these expose a lot of the supposed "Hip Hop Heads" and "Hip Hop journalists"

As far as the Beastie Boys go all I will say is they got fukked over big time with the sample lawsuits, although that was

1. A blatant cash grab and

2. An attempt to shut down Russel Simmons.

Although the idea of grungy looking white kids hooking up with black youths scared the shyt out of middle America, and middle England while we're at it.

And are we gonna pretend that DMC wasn't writing some of their shyt



(I've got a drinking game, you gotta take sip of whatever your favorite poison is every time a poster mentions Paul Revere)

 

[Roaden Polynice]

So much misinformation and corny shyt in this thread.

Dr.Dre dj'd for the Beastie boys?

Beastie boys took PE on tour?

What do you actually mean by, they don't get respect? I'm assuming you mean they don't get mentioned. Because prior to this I've seen minimal, if any, disrespect towards the Beastie Boys

Accuse people of being misinformed while being misinformed yourself, crehs

 

[erker]

They get about as much respect as any other act from 30 years ago would. Their music was big at the time but, people just moved onto other things. There are maybe 10 rappers/hip-hop groups from the mid-80s that are still relevant, respected and get mentioned often.

They were still relevant in the 90's though. Ill Communication and Hello Nasty (remember Intergalactic?) sold alot of records.

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

Run was writing all their rhymes in the beginning as they were supposed to be the white version of Run-DMC. They always came of as a novelty in comparison to the other groups at the time. They were "hip hop for white people" who weren't about that hip hop life. They have memorable songs but not quotables or verses outside of Paul Revere. Look at how 3rd bass was spitting compared to the beasties. They also had no problem with taking awards for hip hop artist while classifying themselves as "alternative" whatever the fukk that is even though they were still rapping over break beats and boom bap.

TL;DR they weren't that good to begin with but they were beginner level hip hop for white people which allowed them to build a huge fan base and have longevity. With a little white privilege sprinkled on top.

 

[NotaPAWG]

let me guess, their platinum status had nothing to do with talent and they were gifted 1M sold status cause they white huh?

or let me guess only White people bought 1M BB albums?

roflmao, you too funny breh

DMC said themselves that when they toured with the beastie boys and played the south to a Predominatey black crowd that the crowd showed showed wayyyy more love for the beasties than they did Run DMC themselves and people went off having a good time

 

[mr.africa]

The Adam sandler's of hiphop

Like musical cheese graters on the ears

You'll find with each no wave of hiphop they will always promote a group to bring music to suburb crowd

Mc Shan informer
Vanilla ice
Eminem
Beastie boys

All with some professed pseudo oppression when any implied oppression is usually due to their behavior as opposed to any established societal oppression

 

[NotaPAWG]

let me guess, their platinum status had nothing to do with talent and they were gifted 1M sold status cause they white huh?

or let me guess only White people bought 1M BB albums?

roflmao, you too funny breh

Turkkan: All the really hard-core hip-hop heads wouldn’t publicly admit it, but quietly, they’d all say to me, “Oh my God, the beats on this record are the most unbelievable thing on earth.” From Chuck D to LL Cool J to KRS-One, they were all in awe of Paul’s Boutique.

Simmons: Eric B. told me he could steal 15 albums off the Beastie Boys’ second album

D.M.C.: From day one they were killing. Even when nobody knew them. It could be a completely black, Negro, Southern crowd there to see Run-D.M.C. and Whodini, but when the Beasties came on it wasn’t like people were walking around getting hot dogs — they really paid attention to them white boys..

 

[Nomadum]

Turkkan: All the really hard-core hip-hop heads wouldn’t publicly admit it, but quietly, they’d all say to me, “Oh my God, the beats on this record are the most unbelievable thing on earth.” From Chuck D to LL Cool J to KRS-One, they were all in awe of Paul’s Boutique.

Simmons: Eric B. told me he could steal 15 albums off the Beastie Boys’ second album

D.M.C.: From day one they were killing. Even when nobody knew them. It could be a completely black, Negro, Southern crowd there to see Run-D.M.C. and Whodini, but when the Beasties came on it wasn’t like people were walking around getting hot dogs — they really paid attention to them white boys..

REAL hiphop fans know the deal

Plus if you didn't buy your own Cassette Tapes or CD's before 96, I don't want you saying shyt about BB being bum's lol. nikkas had to ask they mommas to buy them shyt, I was young buying my own shyt. Long as I didn't repeat what the rappers were saying or act it out, I was good. OP clearly made this post based on Race and not talent.