Serious Question: Why does the world hold contempt for black people?

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Seriously, breh..fukk Europe...you cannot, and I mean CANNOT equate European experience with black America's experience in terms of collectivization. Dirstly, white people by nature are individualistic. Second, they have not been politically subjugated, economically exploited, or humiliated on such a grandiose level as black America, so that argument is not relevant to this discussion. Their tactics would never work for us because they do not understand the depths of our oppression.
Excuses. Fine, I'll use jews. :manny:
 

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Because we pose a threat to white hegemony if we collectivize...that's the main reason for white supremacy because we endanger their monopoly on wealth. The secondary reason in regards to sports and culture is that our superiority in a task hurts their masculinity, which is tied to their ability to perform manly tasks like sports. Its been that way for a while and being able to best someone in a sport or task shows the them that you are the better man. its alot more detailed but that's the main thing that goes on sports wise. That's what my masters theiss was on was black masculinity and blackness in sports history

it has nothing to do with some romanticized belief that we are physically superior (even if it may be true). Blacks are treated with contempt because most countries know there will be no consequence to it.
 

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it has nothing to do with some romanticized belief that we are physically superior (even if it may be true). Blacks are treated with contempt because most countries know there will be no consequence to it.

I was speaking on a more micro level in regards to sports man with that quote.
 

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You sounding real cacish right now. A lot of these intellectual circles black people weren't in the position to even compete. A whole lot of American inventions could be by black people but because of the racism they couldn't get patents or the idea simply get's stolen. Black people thinking about surviving and Cacs have the luxury to think of the next big thing.

Don't mind him. He's just an uncreative troll. Just look at his rep.
 

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that's a very good question.

in your opinion, what do you personally think went wrong?
Now this is a better discussion.


We were too content. We didn't have enough lobbyists within the governement. One thing I noticed about jews, is that they always have powerful 'friends' as protection (now they are the powerful friend, but back then, they had politicans in their pocket). We never did. We should have paid bribes, pinned powerful people against powerful people in office. In a democracy, you can use this toward your advantage. I don't recall the political climate off top, but what I do know, is that there were far too many rich people to not have had lobbyists and judicial electives paid off to keep things from spiraling out of control. If one side will not help, you go to the other side, then you go back to the other side and give him a hint that his rival has an advantage. by pinning 2 sides against each other, you become a puppet master while protecting your own interests, this is what I noticed the jews do.
 

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I changed country with white. to fit the current arguement.

BINGO!

This is what Malcolm was talking about.
this doesn't apply to just whites. You can go in ANY part of the world and I guarantee that if there is a small percentage of blacks inhabitants, that group is one of the most marginalized and oppressed people's in that society. If you think blacks in Europe get treated badly you've obviously haven't heard the horror stories that go on a lot Arab countries. This is why it pains me to see so much inter-conflict and corruption on the continent of Africa.
 

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this doesn't apply to just whites. You can go in ANY part of the world and I guarantee that if there is a small percentage of blacks inhabitants, that group is one of the most marginalized and oppressed people's in that society. If you think blacks in Europe get treated badly you've obviously haven't heard the horror stories that go on a lot Arab countries. This is why it pains me to see so much inter-conflict and corruption on the continent of Africa.
Globally I don't think it's racial as it is national. I don't see any western blacks being marginalized and oppressed globally at all. Most africans that come to America prosper better than the black and white americans.
 

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Now this is a better discussion.


We were too content. We didn't have enough lobbyists within the governement. One thing I noticed about jews, is that they always have powerful 'friends' as protection (now they are the powerful friend, but back then, they had politicans in their pocket). We never did. We should have paid bribes, pinned powerful people against powerful people in office. In a democracy, you can use this toward your advantage. I don't recall the political climate off top, but what I do know, is that there were far too many rich people to not have had lobbyists and judicial electives paid off to keep things from spiraling out of control. If one side will not help, you go to the other side, then you go back to the other side and give him a hint that his rival has an advantage. by pinning 2 sides against each other, you become a puppet master while protecting your own interests, this is what I noticed the jews do.

We don't have the same political, social, or economic connections, culture, or EXPERINCES that Jewish people have had and again, you are still trying to relate the Jewish experience to the Black experience...incredibly ignorant...they were not brought to nation in slavery, seasoned into complete subjugation, then persecuted relentlessly for that long a time in a section of the world. It doesn't help us come up with solutions to try and identify with a group that has no real experience similar to ours. Makes no sense.

Yet I'm coming up with excuses again right?
 

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How is it an excuse if it can't be applied? Show me how European experiences in history since the slave trade correlate with the black experience in America and I'll rep you.
It doesn't, slavery is another beast in itself, but people bounce back from that, we're not the only slaves on the planet. What we need to be focusing on, is bouncing back, not complaning.

I'd rather have a discussion about what we need to do to bounce back then think about the past at this point. I think it's about time we start moblizing.
 

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We don't have the same political, social, or economic connections, culture, or EXPERINCES that Jewish people have had and again, you are still trying to relate the Jewish experience to the Black experience...incredibly ignorant...they were not brought to nation in slavery, seasoned into complete subjugation, then persecuted relentlessly for that long a time in a section of the world. It doesn't help us come up with solutions to try and identify with a group that has no real experience similar to ours. Makes no sense.

Yet I'm coming up with excuses again right?
Who shares the same experiences as the jews? no one, who shares the same experiences with the chinese? no one, who shares the same experiences with the native americans, no one, that's not the damn point.

The point is to use various experiences from others as a book marker to learning. It's how science works, it's how math works, it's how the universe works. Newton had his trail and errors so the next guy doesn't have too. He laid out equations, so you don't have too and you can build from that. No one person has the same experience that's a given, but obv you can use other peoples experience, tweak it, to learn a thing or 2 about moving forward.

or perhaps you'd prefer to just sit back and cry some more and do nothing?
 
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