Serious Question: Why does the world hold contempt for black people?

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It doesn't, slavery is another beast in itself, but people bounce back from that, we're not the only slaves on the planet. What we need to be focusing on, is bouncing back, not complaning.

I'd rather have a discussion about what we need to do to bounce back then think about the past at this point. I think it's about time we start moblizing.

Nobody is complaining; we are identifying the system's mechanisms so as to find solutions to overturn them and my argument is too many people are pointing the finger at the black community without understanding how incredible the oppression is...And our slavery WAS NOT like others slavery. Ours was CHATTEL slavery, which means we were made to be only property. Can you imagine the political, socioeconomic, and cultural aspects plus the seasoning and the psychological effect? Plus how it continues through various means today? You can't MOBILIZE without ORGANIZING and that comes from understand what you are mobilizing against. Read Social Movement Theory and Aldon Morris on Local Movement Centers. That's how you get to solutions.
 

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Globally I don't think it's racial as it is national. I don't see any western blacks being marginalized and oppressed globally at all. Most africans that come to America prosper better than the black and white americans.

i think your completely wrong my friend. Arabs have long running history in their racism towards blacks. And the only reason western blacks (from America) may be treated with more dignity than their African brothers is because of the wide held belief that America = Money and Power. Strip away that American title and your just another poor and pitiful African in their view. This is why its so important for blacks (regardless if your in the diaspora or motherland) to work together. We all have our various differences and cultures and we should learn to respect and embrace that. It's what makes our race so diverse. However, we cannot let these differences be a detriment to our unity.
 

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i think your completely wrong my friend. Arabs have long running history in their racism towards blacks. And the only reason western blacks (from America) may be treated with more dignity than their African brothers is because of the wide held belief that America = Money and Power. Strip away that American title and your just another poor and pitiful African in their view. This is why its so important for blacks (regardless if your in the diaspora or motherland) to work together. We all have our various differences and cultures and we should learn to respect and embrace that. It's what makes our race so diverse. However, we cannot let these differences be a detriment to our unity.

Thank you!
 

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i think your completely wrong my friend. Arabs have long running history in their racism towards blacks. And the only reason western blacks (from America) may be treated with more dignity than their African brothers is because of the wide held belief that America = Money and Power. Strip away that American title and your just another poor and pitiful African in their view. This is why its so important for blacks (regardless if your in the diaspora or motherland) to work together. We all have our various differences and cultures and we should learn to respect and embrace that. It's what makes our race so diverse. However, we cannot let these differences be a detriment to our unity.
No one has a longer history of hatred in the middle east than jews. In fact if you hold an israeli passport you can't even go to the majority of middle eastern countries. in some of these countries, you will be killed as soon as it's discovered you're a jew. I think africans can go where they please.

Strip away money and power and you're poor and pitiful regardless of race. Bring a wealthy african to any middle eastern country, and he's welcome with open arms. See the pattern?

You want to know real hatred? Bring a rich and powerful jew to a middle eastern country, and they will still try to kill him.
 

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Now this is a better discussion.


We were too content. We didn't have enough lobbyists within the governement. One thing I noticed about jews, is that they always have powerful 'friends' as protection (now they are the powerful friend, but back then, they had politicans in their pocket). We never did. We should have paid bribes, pinned powerful people against powerful people in office. In a democracy, you can use this toward your advantage. I don't recall the political climate off top, but what I do know, is that there were far too many rich people to not have had lobbyists and judicial electives paid off to keep things from spiraling out of control. If one side will not help, you go to the other side, then you go back to the other side and give him a hint that his rival has an advantage. by pinning 2 sides against each other, you become a puppet master while protecting your own interests, this is what I noticed the jews do.

Jews are able to operate under the umbrella of white supremacy because they can identify as white if need be.

during the time BWS thrived, no one wanted anything to do with Blacks regardless of your status or class, if whites were to take bribes from Blacks they would've basically been complicit in furthering a black agenda, something they wanted NOTHING to do with, nor did they want it to happen.

this isn't about money or economics, White people simply do NOT want us here, but since we are here it's better for them that we're in a dysfunctional state rather than successfully thriving.

we're walking dollar signs to them, if they want to make a few millions they can just pluck a few of us off the street and toss us into their private prisons, if they want to sell us something, they simply grab a black that the masses of blacks looks favorably upon and have him advertise it and take in profits for a white organization.

only time whites want to have something to do with blacks is when it benefits them more than it benefits the blacks they might be doing business with.
 

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Jews are able to operate under the umbrella of white supremacy because they can identify as white if need be.

during the time BWS thrived, no one wanted anything to do with Blacks regardless of your status or class, if whites were to take bribes from Blacks they would've basically been complicit in furthering a black agenda, something they wanted NOTHING to do with, nor did they want it to happen.


this isn't about money or economics, White people simply do NOT want us here, but since we are here it's better for them that we're in a dysfunctional state rather than successfully thriving.

we're walking dollar signs to them, if they want to make a few millions they can just pluck a few of us off the street and toss us into their private prisons, if they want to sell us something, they simply grab a black that the masses of blacks looks favorably upon and have him advertise it and take in profits for a white organization.

only time whites want to have something to do with blacks is when it benefits them more than it benefits the blacks they might be doing business with.

Proves my entire point that the Jewish experience cannot relate to the black experience so that convo needs to die within the realm of this discussion. Positive rep.
 

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No one has a longer history of hatred in the middle east than jews. In fact if you hold an israeli passport you can't even go to the majority of middle eastern countries. in some of these countries, you will be killed as soon as it's discovered you're a jew. I think africans can go where they please.

Strip away money and power and you're poor and pitiful regardless of race. Bring a wealthy african to any middle eastern country, and he's welcome with open arms. See the pattern?

You want to know real hatred? Bring a rich and powerful jew to a middle eastern country, and they will still try to kill him.

jews have their own separate issues. And you may be right about blacks being treated better than jews in the middle east. That doesn't mean I'm going to sugarcoat how the majority of blacks are treated. It may be painful but the Arab is and has been just as much of an enemy to our people as the European. I don't have any hatred toward them. I have close Arab friends but I don't let those individual relations skew my perception of the relations between groups of people.
 

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jews have their own separate issues. And you may be right about blacks being treated better than jews in the middle east. That doesn't mean I'm going to sugarcoat how the majority of blacks are treated. It may be painful but the Arab is and has been just as much of an enemy to our people as the European. I don't have any hatred toward them. I have close Arab friends but I don't let those individual relations skew my perception of the relations between groups of people.
Dude, my point was that the arab doesn't just hate the jews and blacks, he also hates europeans, I wouldnt want to be white walking around half those countries. My point is that no one race is hated more than the other. There are complexities to this, self hatred, self esteem issues, and propaganda behind it.

If a rich ghanian, and a rich japanese went to peru, they'd be treated the same. If both were poor, and begging on the street, they'd be treated the same. both would get their asses kicked on a russian subway.
 

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Ya'll nikkas are going in eh? I couldnt keep up during the eagles game, gonna have to chime in tmw
 

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jews have their own separate issues. And you may be right about blacks being treated better than jews in the middle east. That doesn't mean I'm going to sugarcoat how the majority of blacks are treated. It may be painful but the Arab is and has been just as much of an enemy to our people as the European. I don't have any hatred toward them. I have close Arab friends but I don't let those individual relations skew my perception of the relations between groups of people.
Extremely well put

At school, if I aint alone or with a chick I'm with a group of 5 Egyptians or a white dude for the most part. They my peoples but even they will tell you that back in Egypt/Kuwait theyre is also racism towards Blacks, ...as well as Indians.
 

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only time blacks want to have something to do with whites is when it benefits them more than it benefits the whites they might be doing business with.

I replaced whites with blacks so you can see how using others examples to further ones agenda. great layout they have huh? we should probably learn from it.

btw if you told a jew that he fell under white supremacy, I dont think he'd be too happy.
 

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I replaced whites with blacks so you can see how using others examples to further ones agenda. great layout they have huh? we should probably learn from it.

btw if you told a jew that he fell under white supremacy, I dont think he'd be too happy.
yeah but do you see how inaccurate it sounds when you switch races?
 

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Extremely well put

At school, if I aint alone or with a chick I'm with a group of 5 Egyptians or a white dude for the most part. They my peoples but even they will tell you that back in Egypt/Kuwait theyre is also racism towards Blacks, ...as well as Indians.
You should ask them blacks from where and why. I hardly think they're talking about south africans, african americans, british blacks etc.

Another thing I noticed abot blacks is they tend to think that if one group is hated, it means all of them exclusively. which is odd because in asia, if one group, say japanese are hated, they do not view that as all asians being hated. in africa if some nigerians are hated on the streets of japan, it means all blacks are hated. however if the chinese are being ran out of angola, the japanese wouldnt think 'all asians' are hated.
 

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yeah but do you see how inaccurate it sounds when you switch races?
its hypothetical so how can it be inaccurate? I was using an example of what the black mind should be thinking. and how he should function to counter the rival .

its like football. one team keeps scoring on a deep pass, you don't just start going :damn:

you start changing up formation and trying dime package, nickel, bringing in a 3-7 formation, whatever you gotta do.
 
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