Serious thread: I'm 90% my GF isn't sexually attracted to me.

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If she actually has vaginismus then she needs to see her gynecologist, they recommend small dildo like objects for her to take and loosen up.

This will take years before she can operate with you functionally.

As someone that was In your situation before you need to leave or be prepared for a long road.

Also get in the gym. If she doesn't want to give head she may have parental issues or not like your body.
 

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To the people that suggested couple's therapy, that is something both of us have talked about before, but as of right now with work and grad school neither one of us have time for that.

And here's an update. After I posted this I ended up calling and talking to her about how I was feeling. The convo was a few hours but she basically said that she was caught off guard about me feeling like this because she felt we've really been making progress.

I mentioned how she would make sexual comments but not act on them and she rebutted that a couple of the times I mentioned we actually did have sex afterwards, it would be way later in the night but she said us having sex would be on her mind since she made the comment.

I commented how our sex life isn't great, she responded "but it's not terrible anymore."
I told her "our sex life isn't terrible, isn't a compliment or good thing." And she bluntly responded "but it's better than where it used to be, because having sex with you used to be terrible for me. Now for the first time ever I can say I actually enjoy it and can think about sex in a non-negative manner."

I also brought up how I didn't know if things were actually getting better or if it was another case like those 6 months. And she told me that she regrets lying about that to this day and wishes she never brought that energy into the relationship. But she reassured me that thing are honestly getting better, pointing out recent developments like her squirting (when we use the vibrator) and her having more sexual thoughts about me: "It used to be when I missed you I would think about us doing non-sexual things like cuddling, talking, and kissing. Now, when I miss you I actually think about us fukking as one of the things I miss."
You’re her first sex partner so she really has no point of reference besides you as to what sex consists of.
She doesn’t seem like she isn’t attracted to you just sexually immature.
Suggest to her trying new positions and different techniques.
I would suggest getting a room or going on a short vacation or starvation that is dedicated towards exploring your sexuality.

It’s a lot of you complaining but not much reference to what she likes sexually.
You need to pick her brain and find out.

Don’t get discouraged and think you’re inadequate some people have low sex drives. It doesn’t mean you’re unattractive or that she’s not interested in you.
 

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i would say have her see a gyn and have a transvaginal /pelvic u/s , pap smear, maybe she has some type of sexual /anatomy dysfunction. and if you want to see if she is sexual attracted to you start to see if she will give you head at least 3 times per week if she decline giving you head,i would then assume, i sexual attraction issue.
True. Even if she isn’t a interested in vaginal sex pleasing him sexually should still be a priority.
 

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Long post but I'm really desperate for some type of input at this point.

Backstory: Me and my girl have been together for a few years we been close friends for heading on a decade now.

We always chopped it up on the regular since highschool and basically stayed close through college. We always had a dynamic where we would tell each other about who we we're talking to and our sexual growths, we're friends right?

Around the time that I finally come out of my shell as a man and start fukking with a solid amount of women, she starts to show heavy signs of jealousy. In one particular case where I cuffed a girl that I guess she thought was unworthy (a dancer), that really set her off.

She and all her friends had a running convo about me and my sex life and basically how I was "disrespecting her by fukking with other women". Like I would get mean-mugged by her friends when I came around, hell on one drunk night I actually got cussed out on the phone by a bunch of her friends about how I need to be a man and cuff her. (The way this whole situation went still bothers me, when I told her that she laughed it off as me overreacting and said all women do that)

All this time I didn't even know she wanted to be in a relationship with me. I didn't want to be in a relationship period, but long story short after initially denying it, I granted her wish of us becoming a couple.

The couple thing came with ups and downs, with a few slip-ups on her part, but that's beside the subject.

Me and her sexual chemistry has never been good, ever. Background information, my body count is around 30 and she has been sexual with I believe 4 dudes, when I say sexual I mean messing around/getting ate out/handjobs/sucking dikk etc. I was the guy that took her virginity and to this day (at least to my knowledge) the only man she's ever had intercourse with. And from the first time we ever had sex shyt has been fukked up.

The night I took her virginity she bursted into tears, hysterical crying like something extremely traumatic had just happened. It wasn't even like I forced anything on her, she was on top rubbing my dikk on her p*ssy and she got really horny and put the tip in, I told her to sit up on it, when she sat up the whole dikk went in. From there I could see something clicked in her head, she rode it for 2-3 strokes and immediately got off, and asked me "what just happened?" I told her "you rode my dikk", she responded "you mean like sexual intercourse? Actual fukking? Like I'm not a virgin anymore?", Me: "umm yea? I guess?" From there she broke down completely, to this day it was the hardest I've ever seen her cry outside of me breaking up with her. Later she told me most of her being upset was that what happened wasn't how she pictured in her head losing her virginity. Eventually we moved on but to this day that image is stuck in my head.

We move on in the relationship with the element of sex being involved, if you could even say that. After a while I notice that almost every time I try to initiate sex she would shut it down, she would always have an excuse or just flat out say she wasn't in the mood. I always try to value her autonomy and control of her body so I would just take it on the chin. But it would get to points where we would go 3 months without sexual contact, like she's living with me, we're sharing the the same bed, and I have to damn near beg to even give her head and most of the time that would even be denied.

About 5-6 months into putting up with it, I confront her about it. I tell her that I've been with enough women to know when a woman is sexually attracted to me and enjoys having sex with me. And that I don't think she's sexually attracted to me.

She instantly panicked, responding with "no baby how could you think that, I'm so attracted to you. I just be insecure about my p*ssy not always being shaven and kept up a lot of time, that's why I denied you sex most of the time.” Looking back in hindsight our relationship was on thin ice at that point and I think she knew the wrong answer at that point would lead to me breaking up with her for good. But at the time I took what she said at face value and tried to comfort her that I don't care about her always being shaven or super clean I just enjoy being intimate and making love with her. She promised that she would do better and would make an active attempt to have sex with me more often.

From that point we actually had the best 6 months of our relationship. Our sex life wasn't the greatest but it had at least became some what decent with us at least having sex every 2 weeks or so. More importantly, me and her grew emotionally together becoming much stronger in our love, comfort, and trust for each other. Everything seemed to be on the up and up, at least that's what I thought.

A week before my birthday we get intimate, we begin to have sex and a few stroke into it, she breaks down into tears and says "I can't take it anymore". I'm caught off guard like ”what's wrong?”

"I can't have sex with you, it feels so uncomfortable, it varies from feeling numb and discomforting to being very painful, very rarely does it ever feel good. I can't keep pretending"

My heart sinks in my chest, I ask her how long has she felt like this and she tells me for the past 8 months (meaning before I confronted her because I knew something was wrong, but she denied it.)

She then goes on to say that it isn't anything wrong with me, that she is attracted to me and that she thinks it's something wrong with her like female sexual dysfunction.

She still crying throughout this point so I can't even get mad, I instantly begin to comfort her and be understanding. We have a long heart to heart about it and by the end of it, it seemed that we became even closer and stronger.

She has a girls trip to Miami the next day for a bachelorette weekend, so we end up with time away from each other. I'm a pragmatic dude so I begin to do research into female sexual disorder, but to not much avail. I find a female subreddit about vaginimus which would be kinda helpful for her, but the consistent theme is that as a man I can't do anything about it. And whenever I find male perspectives on the subject the common response from dudes that dealt with similar situations is "run for your life, it's never gonna get better, don't commit to her, don't marry her, get out of that situation ASAP" or ”One day she's gonna run into a dude that makes her wet and she not even gonna have to question fukking him, but it's not gonna be you."

Then I begin to dwell on the fact that she knew exactly what was wrong when I confronted her 6 months ago, but lied and made me seem like I was crazy for peeping it. I felt like she lied to preserve the relationship because she values the relationship a lot, but still that's fukked up because I had the right to know that all the times I weighed breaking up with her and everytime we survived a break up I would invest more into her emotionally, financial, physically.

That was 1.5 years ago, many arguments, heart to hearts, breakdowns later we're still together. And the sex situation has somewhat improved, but its still at the point that the only time I can count on her enthusiastically engage in sex is if I deprive her of contact. Like if I don't allow her to see me for a week or two, when I finally pull up on her she'll be open to sex. Or if I'm with her and about to leave and she knows she won't see me for a while she will be more aggressive about us having sex.

But let us get to a good place emotionally where I'm allowing her to hang around me for 3-4 days at a time she'll slowly revert to denying me sex again until I cut her off from seeing me. I feel like that's not a healthy sexual relationship at all.

I'm used to sex being a recreational thing in my previous relationships and dealings with women. Like we're chilling together, feeling on each other, attracted to each other, "lets have sex!". But in this relationship it feels like sex has became a bargaining chip and something she just does because she knows it's the only way the relationship will survive. And the fact that she was able to put on an act for 6 months regarding enjoying having sex with me sometimes makes me doubt if things are really improving or if she's just becoming a better actor.

And it's trash because in every other aspect it has grown into a great relationship emotionally, trust wise, and as a friendship.

It would be easier for me to make a decision on whether I wanted to be with her if it was obvious there was no true attraction at all, but she does most of the things I've experienced women do when they're attracted to you. She wants to be around me all the time, she gets jittery and fiendish when I cut her off to the point she'll beg to come see me, she got in a fight with her best friend of 15 years because she saw a picture of me and said I looked really good and has an all around jealous streak when it comes to me and any other woman. Hell she even sleeps with a pair of my dirty drawls like a teddy bear so she can smell me.

:mindblown: like what the fukk gives! This shyt literally has me losing my mind.

She'll occasionally make explicitly sexual comments if I get a haircut/get real dressed up/look real good, but the second I try to act on those comments or make her act on them she's like :whoa:. But as far as progress it's gone from me getting denied the p*ssy 95-99% of the time to me getting denied 60-70% of the time.

The female poster are always explaining woman behavior on here, somebody please give me some type of explanation, like not pulling any punches or sugarcoating.
Was she religious at some point?
 

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She's not attracted to you sexually.
At some point she will be attracted to someone sexually and you are going to be HELLA made furious even. One for wasting time and two for wasting your time trying to fix something you can't.
On top of that her hormones or libido might be off or low. In which case sex isn't the end all be all, but even with that when its time to go she should enjoy it. Which all comes back around to she isn't sexually attracted to you although she might be attracted to you and care about you.

Do you know if she finds any other dudes hot or sexy (like artist, actors or athletes) if she does then again.... it might be just something with you.

And you've been with your fair share of women so I assume you warming up the oven before trying to bake, but incase that's not the case. I'd try really doing and being intimate try to do you're best to turn her on all the time even if it doesn't result in sex the 1st couple times.
 

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It could be a mental barrier. Maybe past trauma. Her reaction to losing her virginity when she's the one who slid it in is abnormal. I would ever so slowly breach the uncomfortable topic of whether she was sexually abused when she was young. That can have her subconsciously on guard, body stiffened up, vagina stiffened up, and her just not being able to relax and enjoy.
Could also be anatomical. Some women vaginas are set weirdly in the pelvis so penetration actually hurts, she would need to visit a gyn for that.
I don't think libido has to do with it. Libido can explain the rejection but not the pain and discomfort. She should get a pelvic exam to look for any structural abnormalities and any cysts that maybe causing pain.
She should at LEAST be willing to go to a GYN to see if it's a real issue. If she refuses to do even that much then I question how much she wants this to work. She should be willing to try anything.
 

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whats the update?
Broke up with her behind this issue 2 months ago, went out with my best friend as his wingman to try and lift my spirit.

Ended up clicking with the friend of the woman he was talking to, real cool lawyer girl. We ended up fukking within 24 hours and the sex was great, amazing even. Me and her have crazy sexual chemistry, not gonna lie I was shell-shocked because I realize I hadn't had actual "great" sex in 4+ years.

... Then I got back with my GF 4 days later, thinking that I got the sexual tension out my system enough to go another stretch trying to work it out with her.

After an average sexual encounter and flat out bad sexual encounter that had us both seriously questioning if we could ever fix it. I ended up cheating and fukking the lawyer girl again, we're fukking til this day.

I'm still with my GF and I didn't tell her about the other woman, but I didn't want to be fukking both of them at the same time so I basically told her that I don't think sex adds anything positive to our relationship at this point and we should abstain from it for a good while and see how things go. It's been pretty smooth for the most part except a few nights where I guess she found herself being horny and would try to initiate sex, but I would just side step those advances and she wouldn't really trip or beg.

I suggested us abstaining for my own selfish reasons, but in a weird turn of events I honestly think explicitly cutting sex out of our relationship dynamic has made her way happier. She even noticed how good she has felt in the relationship in the past few months, but she was in denial about it being tied to us not having sex.

With the other woman she knows my GF exist and knows we're close, but since we met during the break up and never told her other wise, she thinks we're still broken up. And I know what I'm doing is wrong because I can tell she's catching deeper and deeper feeling as time goes on.
 
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Broke up with her behind this issue 2 months ago, went out with my best friend as his wingman to try and lift my spirit.

Ended up clicking with the friend of the woman he was talking to, real cool lawyer girl. We ended up fukking within 24 hours and the sex was great, amazing even. Me and her have crazy sexual chemistry, not gonna lie I was shell-shocked because I realize I hadn't had actual "great" sex in 4+ years.

... Then I got back with my GF 4 days later, thinking that I got the sexual tension out my system enough to go another stretch trying to work it out with her.

After an average sexual encounter and flat out bad sexual encounter that had us both seriously questioning if we could ever fix it. I ended up cheating and fukking the lawyer girl again, we're fukking til this day.

I'm still with my GF and I didn't tell her about the other woman, but I didn't want to be fukking both of them at the same time so I basically told her that I don't think sex adds anything positive to our relationship at this point and we should abstain from it for a good while and see how things go. It's been pretty smooth for the most part except a few nights where I guess she found herself being horny and would try to initiate sex, but I would just side step those advances and she wouldn't really trip or beg.

I suggested us abstaining for my own selfish reasons, but in a weird turn of events I honestly think explicitly cutting sex out of our relationship dynamic has made her way happier. She even noticed how good she has felt in the relationship in the past few months, but she was in denial about it being tied to us not having sex.

With the other woman she knows my GF exist and knows we're close, but since we met during the break up and never told her other wise, she thinks we're still broken up. And I know what I'm doing is wrong because I can tell she's catching deeper and deeper feeling as time goes on.

You really going to stay with a woman you don't like having sex with?

You turning down sex from your gf breh...you don't see the issue with that?

Man up and leave her breh...you'll be happier in the long run
 
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