Shaduer’s NFL Projection makes no sense

[calh45]

Yes I can because there's years worth of ineptitude ownership from Jimmy Haslam and the Browns organization. Jimmy Haslam is going to make the final call at the end of the day like he's done many times before. There's a reason why this NFLPA survey put both the coach and owner of the Browns at the bottom of the list compared to other organizations.

It was worst possible situation and organization that Shedeur could have ended up end as he's stuck behind 4 other QBs and literally have a GM and coach that's fighting to save their job. We know how they things end up playing out.


Not to mention they have the Jags first round pick and theoretically have the ammunition to move up in the draft for a QB with a higher ceiling if they really want to do so.

Let's take Sanders out of this and stick to the main points.

Just so I have this clear.

You think a GM who KNOWS his job is in danger, addresses the biggest hole in his team's pathway to success by bringing Joe Flacco (old), Kenny Pickett (terrible), and instead of using his first 3 picks to bring in someone who objectively is physically better than Dillon Gabriel like Dart, he drafts a defensive tackle, a line backer, and a running back.

vs

Me saying no GM would be insane enough to blindly risk his job on Flacco, Pickett, and Gabriel regardless of owner? To add on top of that you think I'm also being silly that the idea of that QB room, with just those three, would be an uncomfortable place for a HC who KNOWS for sure his job is in danger? The GM knows his job is fine otherwise he's incompetent beyond words and honestly outside of the QB scenario he doesn't come across as that dumb/unaware to me.

Did I get that right? If so, just dap my post and we can agree to disagree with me on this point. I'm perfectly fine with my stance on this.

 

[calh45]

Doesn't the owner have the final approval on contracts and trades???

Do you believe the owner is the one negotiating them directly too? Or getting information on whether or not they're going beyond what any other team is offering? No. That's the GM's job to gather it all up, give him the reasoning for the stance they're taking, and getting approval from there. The Owner diving on the sword in the end doesn't excuse the GM not doing due diligence.

If Atlanta wasn't offering 100% guaranteed then neither should have Cleveland. The ONLY other team in the running was the Falcons. That's a failure on the GM.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Let's take Sanders out of this and stick to the main points.

Just so I have this clear.

You think a GM who KNOWS his job is in danger, addresses the biggest hole in his team's pathway to success by bringing Joe Flacco (old), Kenny Pickett (terrible), and instead of using his first 3 picks to bring in someone who objectively is physically better than Dillon Gabriel like Dart, he drafts a defensive tackle, a line backer, and a running back.

vs

Me saying no GM would be insane enough to blindly risk his job on Flacco, Pickett, and Gabriel regardless of owner? To add on top of that you think I'm also being silly that the idea of that QB room, with just those three, would be an uncomfortable place for a HC who KNOWS for sure his job is in danger? The GM knows his job is fine otherwise he's incompetent beyond words and honestly outside of the QB scenario he doesn't come across as that dumb/unaware to me.

Did I get that right? If so, just dap my post and we can agree to disagree with me on this point. I'm perfectly fine with my stance on this.

Everybody in that buildings job is on the line including the GM, coaches and both Gabriel and Shedeur and Jimmy Haslam isn't going to give a damn if he's the main reason for this current roster construction

This is literally the first I've seen of someone giving Jimmy Haslam of all people the benefit of a doubt and expecting him to do right by someone.

 

[Tribal Outkast]

People always get crazy during draft season lol. Nobody really knows what’s about to happen this season with Shedeur or any of these players. Teams be reaching for quarterbacks from North Dakota State and shyt while shytting on players from bigger schools who played in bigger games. shyt if anything Shedeur might be battle tested enough to do something. Who tf knows though. This season is going to be something though… The whole league better hope their quarterbacks don’t fail while Shedeur plays well. He’s going to get so many headlines no matter what he’s doing. Man there’s so many people making videos of different ways to shyt on dude. Like if he’s sorry shouldn’t you just not worry about him?

 

[daemonova]

People always get crazy during draft season lol. Nobody really knows what’s about to happen this season with Shedeur or any of these players. Teams be reaching for quarterbacks from North Dakota State and shyt while shytting on players from bigger schools who played in bigger games. shyt if anything Shedeur might be battle tested enough to do something. Who tf knows though. This season is going to be something though… The whole league better hope their quarterbacks don’t fail while Shedeur plays well. He’s going to get so many headlines no matter what he’s doing. Man there’s so many people making videos of different ways to shyt on dude. Like if he’s sorry shouldn’t you just not worry about him?

Unintentionally?

Falcons don't need a QB, they already overpaying for two.

How many lies are you going to tell to cover the first one?

 

[Tribal Outkast]

Unintentionally?

Falcons don't need a QB, they already overpaying for two.

How many lies are you going to tell to cover the first one?

They fukked up

 

[Bigwhite2498]

I know you're biased about this whole conversation, but you don't have to take my opinion solely on this. The listed weaknesses from TWO different sites. Don't say not true shyt. Josh Allen has a fukking cannon. Gabriel is NOWHERE near that. He has a weak arm.

Dillon Gabriel Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

• Vast majority of 2024 targets were inside of 10 yards, including 25% behind the line, per PFF.
• Ball placement and accuracy isn’t as good as it looks on paper.
• Lacks arm strength to lead receivers on deep shots off play-action.
• Deep-out and deep-seam throws lose their energy.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25189443-dillon-gabriel-nfl-draft-2025-scouting-report-cleveland-browns-qb

Gabriel is a physically limited quarterback. His arm talent/strength are average at best. When windows are tightened by the defensive coverage, the ability to drive passes decreases. Gabriel will not be a fit for a vertical passing offense in the NFL.

Ok and I can find a different scout who says differently. There is no bias the only bias is you my friend I don’t want sheduer to fail or anything but I can’t let yall just say wrong things about other guys to make him sound better. Kurt Warner literally says he’s hit 70 multiple times here
Gabriel over the last 2 years went 69.3% in the B12 and then 72.9% in the B1G. Gabriel played the ranked 2 (twice) 6, 14, 28, 48 ranked passing defenses in the top 50, and for good measure the 54th in 2024. While Sanders played ranked 21, 47. Thats it. Thats the list in 2024. In fact, he faced the 132, 130, 110th, 105, 100th passing defenses. He faced as many teams ranked in the 100s for passing defenses as Gabriel faced in the top 50. Also Gabriel the better athlete and has the advantage of playing in and learning like 4 different playbooks my friend. All I’m saying is he gonna have to work Dillion used to qb competitions sheduer isn’t. Sheduer is about an inch and half to 2 inches taller and his hands are about 1/8 bigger and he’s bout 10 pounds bigger

 

[Bigwhite2498]

Unintentionally?

Falcons don't need a QB, they already overpaying for two.

How many lies are you going to tell to cover the first one?

His son also pranked called Tyler Warren smh bum ass kid prank calling mfs on the biggest day of their lives

 

[daemonova]

They fukked up

 

[Bigwhite2498]

Let's take Sanders out of this and stick to the main points.

Just so I have this clear.

You think a GM who KNOWS his job is in danger, addresses the biggest hole in his team's pathway to success by bringing Joe Flacco (old), Kenny Pickett (terrible), and instead of using his first 3 picks to bring in someone who objectively is physically better than Dillon Gabriel like Dart, he drafts a defensive tackle, a line backer, and a running back.

vs

Me saying no GM would be insane enough to blindly risk his job on Flacco, Pickett, and Gabriel regardless of owner? To add on top of that you think I'm also being silly that the idea of that QB room, with just those three, would be an uncomfortable place for a HC who KNOWS for sure his job is in danger? The GM knows his job is fine otherwise he's incompetent beyond words and honestly outside of the QB scenario he doesn't come across as that dumb/unaware to me.

Did I get that right? If so, just dap my post and we can agree to disagree with me on this point. I'm perfectly fine with my stance on this.

Well tbh they needed all of those positions too lol their roster is horrible and the oline is trash too I was surprised they didn’t get one earlier

 

[Braman]

Dude essentially embodies every negative stereotype we think of cac QBs from the lack of athleticism and overt nepotism down to the arrogance, entitlement and MAGA shyt.

But because he has a beloved father/grifter and has a personality we think is the peak of black masculinity, he's suddenly the modern day Jackie Robinson in a league currently being dominated by black QBs.

 

[prime]

I hear you but ….he had the heisman trophy winner and #2 pick as his WR1

Where was Jacques green drafted ?

Also yall gotta stop talking like college is the pros, as if college QBs need a murderers row of weapons. If you a future starting NFL QB you are head and shoulders above your comp, especially a watered down Big 12. So stop blaming the o-line like he played against prime LT every week. He was playing against nggas who will be managers at LA Fitness in 2 years. So him taking those sacks was a red flag and his draft position reflects that

Lmao Florida had Fred Taylor and Reidel Anthony who both was first round picks and you didn't mention Steve Spurrier or the 3 offensive linemen played 8 plus years in the nfl like I said I am personally not high on shedeur sanders as a elite QB but the three quarterbacks you named had way more talent than the Colorado team if you say otherwise, you are either trolling or have low football IQ

 

[jetflyinglimousineriding]

Unintentionally?

Falcons don't need a QB, they already overpaying for two.

How many lies are you going to tell to cover the first one?

at trying to add some innocence to his son. That's like saying you went to the bank and unintentionally saw the safe was open, but decided to take the money as opposed to just do the right thing and leave it.

 

[Braman]

Lmao Florida had Fred Taylor and Reidel Anthony who both was first round picks and you didn't mention Steve Spurrier or the 3 offensive linemen played 8 plus years in the nfl like I said I am personally not high on shedeur sanders as a elite QB but the three quarterbacks you named had way more talent than the Colorado team if you say otherwise, you are either trolling or have low football IQ

You missed the point. College talent, good or bad, has never mattered. There are QBs with immense surrounding talent who weren’t high picks. There are QBs with NO surrounding talent that were high picks. Go read my OP I told you the evaluation period reveals all. And it did just that. Who you play with don’t matter

How many first round picks did Josh Allen play with?

How many first round picks did Lamar play with?

How many first round picks did Mahomes play with?

How many first round picks did Dak play with?

How many first round picks did Purdy play with?

‘Shaduer is like Drew Bree’s’. How many first round picks did Brees play with?

How many first round picks did Cam Ward play with (shout out to his WR1 Restrepo. 5.1 40 and undrafted)

If you can play, you can play! All this crying

Seriously, mods need to make another thread. This shyt embarrassing. So now the angle is, Lebron Shaduer needs more help!

 

[prime]

You missed the point. College talent, good or bad, has never mattered. There are QBs with immense surrounding talent who weren’t high picks. There are QBs with NO surrounding talent that were high picks. Go read my OP I told you the evaluation period reveals all. And it did just that. Who you play with don’t matter

How many first round picks did Josh Allen play with?

How many first round picks did Lamar play with?

How many first round picks did Mahomes play with?

How many first round picks did Dak play with?

How many first round picks did Purdy play with?

‘Shaduer is like Drew Bree’s’. How many first round picks did Brees play with?

How many first round picks did Cam Ward play with (shout out to his WR1 Restrepo. 5.1 40 and undrafted)

If you can play, you can play! All this crying

Seriously, mods need to make another thread. This shyt embarrassing. So now the angle is, Lebron Shaduer needs more help!

At you trying to flip the conversation You said shedeur sanders was on the same level as Danny Wuerffel,Ken Dorsey and danny kanell as far as talent i disagreed with you because you named the qbs that had elite talent around them and I said that's a unfair comparison because as a college quarterback without a elite play caller and one elite player on offense shedeur did put up great numbers and uplift his team and those three QBs couldn't do that now you're bring up other QBs that don't have anything to do with the conversation once again I dont believe shedeur is a elite nfl prospect I believe he's very similar to Teddy Bridgewater or a slightly more athletic Chad Pennington but to mention those three QBs with shedeur is wrong he's more talented even said this months ago