thewiseman
op
First off I think both are gifted and I actually fw Haney. I think Loma was shook to fight Haney. Between the 4 lightweights, I think Haney is the most skilled lightweight.
Here's the thing though, obviously. These dudes are the Black Paulie's. They have NO power at all. Even guys like Whitaker or Floyd (at 147) who had enough pop to keep fighters honest, these guys don't even have that. Linares for most of the fight was absorbing punch after punch like it was nothing, and I don't gotta go further about why that's terrible given Linares record.
Shakur landed 9.5 punches per round on a full time police officer that is nowhere near top 130. I get that they're both young and learning, but this is going to get worse as they get older.
They're gonna move up in weight and competition and fight guys their size and who are also as talented. If they can't put away trash likes a washed up Linares or some random African police officer, I feel like they are bound to lose soon when they can no longer make 130/135 respectively.
Also I just hate how their super stans are always like "name of the game is hit and don't be hit" and that's true. But guys like Floyd and Whitaker weren't fighting boring fights against trash like them. Floyd during his Pretty Boy days RARELY got clocked and he took a lot of great fighters out, like Corrales, Hatton, Genaro, etc WITHOUT getting hit. Most of Whitaker fights went the distance but he did that against all time greats like Chavez and Azumah nelson, and he pounded them on top of that. Not just landing single digit punches per round, stepping back.
Now let me focus on Shakur instead of Haney because at least Haney now has Gamboa and Linares. Shakur has fought terrible opposition. When the fukk is he gonna step up?
Here's the thing though, obviously. These dudes are the Black Paulie's. They have NO power at all. Even guys like Whitaker or Floyd (at 147) who had enough pop to keep fighters honest, these guys don't even have that. Linares for most of the fight was absorbing punch after punch like it was nothing, and I don't gotta go further about why that's terrible given Linares record.
Shakur landed 9.5 punches per round on a full time police officer that is nowhere near top 130. I get that they're both young and learning, but this is going to get worse as they get older.
They're gonna move up in weight and competition and fight guys their size and who are also as talented. If they can't put away trash likes a washed up Linares or some random African police officer, I feel like they are bound to lose soon when they can no longer make 130/135 respectively.
Also I just hate how their super stans are always like "name of the game is hit and don't be hit" and that's true. But guys like Floyd and Whitaker weren't fighting boring fights against trash like them. Floyd during his Pretty Boy days RARELY got clocked and he took a lot of great fighters out, like Corrales, Hatton, Genaro, etc WITHOUT getting hit. Most of Whitaker fights went the distance but he did that against all time greats like Chavez and Azumah nelson, and he pounded them on top of that. Not just landing single digit punches per round, stepping back.
Now let me focus on Shakur instead of Haney because at least Haney now has Gamboa and Linares. Shakur has fought terrible opposition. When the fukk is he gonna step up?