Shaq doubles down on winning without Kobe:” I coulda won 3 in a row with Vince “.

[Still Benefited]

Kobe evolved after Shaq left. So it seems lik3 he made the right decision for himself. Shaq leaving did not help his legacy since D Wade led him to a chip. So the question can still remain if he couldve won without Kobe. Sure i think he could have,but the question can still be asked. I dont think Shaq likes that. Becauase the answer should be obvious from his pov.

 

[holidayinn21]

The same Miami run that included a championship and finishing second in the MVP vote while Kobe was embarrassing himself at the bottom of the conference getting dog walked by Boris Diaw and quitting on his team until Pau came and saved his career

AND Kobe still ended with more rings despite Shaq playing with more talent............that's sad

 

[Left.A1]

AND Kobe still ended with more rings despite Shaq playing with more talent............that's sad

More sidekick rings? Most definitely…sadly no other “top” player is in his league when it comes to those

 

[Left.A1]

Kobe evolved after Shaq left. So it seems lik3 he made the right decision for himself. Shaq leaving did not help his legacy since D Wade led him to a chip. So the question can still remain if he couldve won without Kobe. Sure i think he could have,but the question can still be asked. I dont think Shaq likes that. Becauase the answer should be obvious from his pov.

To Kobe Cultists for sure.… but to normal mentally stable people who can count...they can add up to 4

 

[In The Zone '98]

Kobe evolved after Shaq left. So it seems lik3 he made the right decision for himself. Shaq leaving did not help his legacy since D Wade led him to a chip. So the question can still remain if he couldve won without Kobe. Sure i think he could have,but the question can still be asked. I dont think Shaq likes that. Becauase the answer should be obvious from his pov.

Wym. Lol

He contributed to a chip and almost won MVP

He definitely won without Kobe

 

[fifth column]

this such a wild thread.

Its like you can't say "I think Kobe is top 10-5 shyt even top 3 without these goofy nikkas losing they mind if you don't have him unarguable goat.

the logic being used in here is crazy. Pau aint do shyt solo, got with Kobe a ATG and now he winning rings. So its out of the realm of possibility TMAC who was more talented than Pau would not be able to win with Shaq you realize conceding that point does not diminish Kobe right

Tmac ain’t winning shyt with Shaq, he ain’t got Kobe’s mental toughness. Y’all mesmerized by talent and discount the mental part which is the part that makes Kobe well Kobe

 

[10bandz]

Tmac ain’t winning shyt with Shaq, he ain’t got Kobe’s mental toughness. Y’all mesmerized by talent and discount the mental part which is the part that makes Kobe well Kobe

Nah they get it. Their energy is way different in the Melo thread. They just like to play dumb with Kobe.

 

[Still Benefited]

Wym. Lol

He contributed to a chip and almost won MVP

He definitely won without Kobe

D Wade carried them with that historical performance. Obviously he was out of his prime,but im not sure he could have carried D Wade. And we cant argue he carried Kobe bwcause Kobe won without him.

 

[Still Benefited]

To Kobe Cultists for sure.… but to normal mentally stable people who can count...they can add up to 4

But 3 with Kobe,1 being the Robin when D wade took over.

Imagine how the convo would change if Pippen won titles without Jordan,but Jordan never won any without Pippen. Thats what we have here. The narrative shifts and people can argue if Jordan could have won without Pippen but not vice versa.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

But 3 with Kobe,1 being the Robin when D wade took over.

Imagine how the convo would change if Pippen won titles without Jordan,but Jordan never won any without Pippen. Thats what we have here. The narrative shifts and people can argue if Jordan could have won without Pippen but not vice versa.

Ironically if Kobe/Shaq dont have that comeback in the 4th that is a conversation. Blazers beat the Pacers imo.

 

[Left.A1]

But 3 with Kobe

You talking about his sidekick?

Yeah fasho.… he won with his sidekick doing his 1-2 for sure.…one of the best sidekicks the league has ever seen respectfully….but a clear cut self admitted sidekick nevertheless

 

[Left.A1]

Tmac ain’t winning shyt with Shaq, he ain’t got Kobe’s mental toughness. Y’all mesmerized by talent and discount the mental part which is the part that makes Kobe well Kobe

You right.…never heard of Mac’s Mamba Mentality Mental leading to this

 

[Left.A1]

Now we using international ball

The lakers were interested in Pau because the Wolves refused to trade KG to us. There were several big men we tried to trade for before Pau.

The Grizz were good enough to win 1 game in 12 tries especially when they had two players on the team with DPOY votes, the 6MOY and another player who got 6MOY votes.

They had the #1 defense in the league that year how do they have no business winning even one game

Once again, you nikkas don’t remember what was happening in real time and are thirsty to dikkride Pau when there was 10+ big men with better stats than him in the late 00s.

Now post how many PPG them “all defense” and “6MOY” losing nikkas scored in those playoffs since you cultists understand basketball and have a working memory of “what was happening” at that time LMAO at 10 big men better than the guy who was leading his teams to more wins season over season than your dear leader was after Shaq left his ass to be humiliated by the Suns every post season (when he actually could make it there LMAO)

 

[RedBull]

Tmac ain’t winning shyt with Shaq, he ain’t got Kobe’s mental toughness. Y’all mesmerized by talent and discount the mental part which is the part that makes Kobe well Kobe

I agree. No other player they mentioned is doing this. That’s how they were successful. Even Shaq admitted. Yall arguing for nothing.

 

[RedBull]

Yall arguing for nothing.