Shaq Hating on a Younger Player For the 100th Time

[Swagnificent]

Yes he has. Multiple times complaining about his style and shooting and not passing to him, etc. More personal fo sho, but yes he has shyt on Kobe's game.

Kobe knows he's a gunner. That ain't a diss. Like the Gobert take its the truth. What I meant was more disrespectful shyt like saying Kobe ain't as good as his other sidekicks (i.e. Penny or D-Wade). Or saying his peers around that time like T-Mac were better. Shaq never disrespected Kobe's place in the game. Even at the height of their beef. Shaq never once said he was the main reason they won 3 in a row. He always knew how great Kobe was even as the media tried to discount it.

After Kobe passed him in Lakerdom, of course he's gonna call Kobe the greatest laker ever. He had no choice at that point.

But he didn't need to go on First Take or Dan Patrick's Show and unprompted ask why they were leaving Kobe out of the GOAT debate.

mad that he didn't tell hiim Riley was trading him

Shaq is actually pretty simple to understand. He respects other killers but will pick on the weak. So while he will diss the likes of Rudy Gobert, he won't diss someone like LeBron. He's also extremely petty. So if like Kobe you don't wanna be his little brother he'll go crazy over that. Or in this case catch feelings cause D-Wade is closer to the power brokers than he was at an advanced age. BTW I don't consider this thing between him and Wade to be disrespect.

 

[dh86]

Generational talents like Shaq don't adapt to rule changes. They change the rules.

Yall keep saying today's game would change Shaq yet I ain't heard yall give one example of something he would need to adjust to. The p*ssy 3-point shooting NBA we see today only happens cause the players of today are inferior to the players of the 90s and 00s.

Prime Shaq would not have to adjust at all. It would be the rest of the league that adjusts to him.

He’d foul out of every game. Watch games and not basketball reference. Barkley used to back down guys the entire 24 second clock. That didn’t make YouTube highlights tho.

 

[husto]

He's just talking shyt

 

[dh86]

If teams had a Shaq they wouldn't be putting him at the 3-point line. When is your dumb ass gon realize the change in play has more to do with a decline in talent across the league than anything else.

Prime Shaq in today's NBA is playing just like he did in the 90s and 00s. He's gonna put every center he plays against right under the basket and is gonna dunk on them. No coach is gonna tell to not do that but instead wait for the double then pass to a 3-point shooter.

Did you even watch the Lakers back in the day? They had shooters around Shaq (i.e. Fisher, Fox, Shaw, etc.). They also were ahead of their time with a stretch 4 in Robert Horry. Shaq saw constant double teams and had shooters yet never got close to 5 apg let alone the asinine 8-10 you mentioned.

Shaq is a scorer. He's gonna get his 30-35 ppg in any era. And he'll do it the same way everytime. With brute strength.

Teams started passing the ball around and moving away from iso ball because there’s LESS talent? What the fukk lol

 

[Swagnificent]

Shaq really thinks he is the GOAT center, and he has these outbursts because he isn’t recognized as the GOAT and still feels slighted.

This is false. Shaq goes out of his way to praise Hakeem. Even says he was better. I also never heard him disrespect Wilt. He's also never said he was the GOAT at anything. All he's ever said was he's the most DOMINANT big man of all-time. And given his style of play that is true. Only past legend I've seen him disrespect is Kareem and that's because of a personal beef.

The other guy I've seen Shaq disrespect is Duncan because he feels he was clearly better than him but now some in the media place Duncan above him. And honestly I agree with Shaq. Only a complete moron would think Tim Duncan is in the same class as Prime Shaq. To me he has a right to be salty about that.

 

[Swagnificent]

The rules changed fairly significantly in the mid 00s preventing another Shaq from ever existing again.

So you're telling me there are other 7'1" 330 lbs behemouths with incredible strength, quickness, and agility roaming all over the NBA today?

Rules have nothing to do with it. Shaq is just a once in a lifetime talent. The reason his style isn't around anymore ha to do with how rare he is as a physical speciman. If a young Shaq walked into today's NBA he would play the exact same way he did in the 90s and early 00s and he would be even more dominant.

This era would have no chance against him.

 

[Swagnificent]

He’d foul out of every game.

So fouls weren't called in the 90s and 00s?

Yall sound dumb as hell with your reasoning on why Shaq wouldn't dominate this era.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Kobe knows he's a gunner. That ain't a diss. Like the Gobert take its the truth. What I meant was more disrespectful shyt like saying Kobe ain't as good as his other sidekicks (i.e. Penny or D-Wade). Or saying his peers around that time like T-Mac were better. Shaq never disrespected Kobe's place in the game. Even at the height of their beef. Shaq never once said he was the main reason they won 3 in a row. He always knew how great Kobe was even as the media tried to discount it.



But he didn't need to go on First Take or Dan Patrick's Show and unprompted ask why they were leaving Kobe out of the GOAT debate.



Shaq is actually pretty simple to understand. He respects other killers but will pick on the weak. So while he will diss the likes of Rudy Gobert, he won't diss someone like LeBron. He's also extremely petty. So if like Kobe you don't wanna be his little brother he'll go crazy over that. Or in this case catch feelings cause D-Wade is closer to the power brokers than he was at an advanced age. BTW I don't consider this thing between him and Wade to be disrespect.

that nikka is a petty insecure mufukka. fukk all dat.

and he the cops


5th best center ever tho (Cap, Wilt, Dream, 11 Rings then him).

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Bron and them are gonna be the first time I have full understanding and context from when they were young hotshots hearing the criticism, to the transition over to when their criticism is sought after. Most of the legends I grew up watching (late 90s-mid 00s) seem to be more gracious towards the new players, but I also checked out of most sports media tbf. It's all about the viral headline or clip

You too? I swear I don’t watch none of that shyt anymore.

 

[Swagnificent]

Teams started passing the ball around and moving away from iso ball because there’s LESS talent? What the fukk lol

Yes.

Just look at what happens at the end of games. Teams don't run sets but give it to their best one on one player to get buckets. The greats of the past were able to do that all game long. Why do you think Kobe turned down a pick from Karl Malone at the '98 all-star game? You only call for a pick when you can't beat your man. Kobe believed there wasn't a human who could guard him one on one which is why he never called for picks. Same with Jordan.

The modern NBA is no different than air raid offensee coming into football. The only reason coaches developed the air raid was because they didn't have the talent to just line up and play physical football against teams like Florida State and Miami back in the day. So to make up for the gap in talent they resorted to gimmick. Same principle in the NBA. The Mike D'Antoni principle of space and pace was a gimmick created to make up for the lack of elite one on one players on his roster. Coaches like Phil Jackson didn't have to resort to that cause they had players like Jordan, Pippen, Kobe, and Shaq.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I see no issue with what Shaq said.. just some harmless trash talking

If you not trying to see him on the court, then you not talking trash. You just running your mouth.

And don’t break character

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

This is false. Shaq goes out of his way to praise Hakeem. Even says he was better. I also never heard him disrespect Wilt. He's also never said he was the GOAT at anything. All he's ever said was he's the most DOMINANT big man of all-time. And given his style of play that is true. Only past legend I've seen him disrespect is Kareem and that's because of a personal beef.

The other guy I've seen Shaq disrespect is Duncan because he feels he was clearly better than him but now some in the media place Duncan above him. And honestly I agree with Shaq. Only a complete moron would think Tim Duncan is in the same class as Prime Shaq. To me he has a right to be salty about that.

No, it’s not. Shaq is a master liar, and influencer, he’s not going to rattle people’s opinions on the the GOATS too much, it’ll damage how people look at him, he needs to be liked and admired, that’s how he gets his validation. So you can believe that nonsense he spews if you want. He’ll praise Dream because there’s actual footage of them going at each other, he got dealt with, but that doesn’t means he actually thinks Dream is better than him. Look, Shaq has 3 straight rings with 3 straight Finals MVPs, NONE of the other centers have that. When he says dominant, that’s his word for greatest, because he definitely wasn’t the most dominant. None was more dominant than Wilt, the records back it up, but that’s not the discussion. The point is, Shaq feels he’s the best, and it’s in his subtle words and actions. He’s says it all of the time without saying it.

 

[Rekkapryde]

No, it’s not. Shaq is a master liar, and influencer, he’s not going to rattle people’s opinions on the the GOATS too much, it’ll damage how people look at him, he needs to be liked and admired, that’s how he gets his validation. So you can believe that nonsense he spews if you want. He’ll praise Dream because there’s actual footage of them going at each other, he got dealt with, but that doesn’t means he actually thinks Dream is better than him. Look, Shaq has 3 straight rings with 3 straight Finals MVPs, NONE of the other centers have that. When he says dominant, that’s his word for greatest, because he definitely wasn’t the most dominant. None was more dominant than Wilt, the records back it up, but that’s not the discussion. The point is, Shaq feels he’s the best, and it’s in his subtle words and actions. He’s says it all of the time without saying it.

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[Swagnificent]

No, it’s not. Shaq is a master liar, and influencer, he’s not going to rattle people’s opinions on the the GOATS too much, it’ll damage how people look at him, he needs to be liked and admired, that’s how he gets his validation. So you can believe that nonsense he spews if you want. He’ll praise Dream because there’s actual footage of them going at each other, he got dealt with, but that doesn’t means he actually thinks Dream is better than him. Look, Shaq has 3 straight rings with 3 straight Finals MVPs, NONE of the other centers have that. When he says dominant, that’s his word for greatest, because he definitely wasn’t the most dominant. None was more dominant than Wilt, the records back it up, but that’s not the discussion. The point is, Shaq feels he’s the best, and it’s in his subtle words and actions. He’s says it all of the time without saying it.

Find me a quote of Shaq saying he's the best or GOAT. I've never heard him utter those words. In fact I've heard him say Kobe (the guy some claim he carried to 3 rings) deserves to be in the GOAT conversation ahead of LeBron. Its a convo he has never injected himself into. IMO he should be in that conversation but the fact he's never put himself in there is why he has my respect.

With regard to what he means by "most dominant", that is simply your opinion. Shaq said himself his goal was never to be "the best". He was content with simply winning one ring and getting back to making movies and rap albums. In the conversation with Kobe on NBA TV a few years back, he said the only thing that motivated him to go for 2 straight was people in the media doubting him. When I hear him say "most dominant" I believe he is talking about his playing style. His brute strength and power simply overpowered opponents like nobody we've ever seen. So in that sense he is the most dominant. I do not think he meant most dominant in terms of accomplishments like titles and MVPs. That would be Michael Jordan if we were talking about "most dominant" in that context.

 

[Don Homer]

You sound like a whiny cac with that last point about Luka.

With regard to the point about Embiid. Shaq just has high expectations for him given his talent. I actually agree with him expecting more from Joel than we've got thus far.

The Duncan/Webber point ain't wrong. C-Webb in his prime was a leading MVP candidate. He had the Kings closer to beating the 3-peat Lakers than Duncan did during that run. He just had a knee injury that cut his prime short. At his peak Webber was seeing Duncan eye to eye the same way T-Mac was right there with Kobe. If someone said you could replace peak T-Mac with Kobe and the Lakers still 3-peat, I wouldn't take it as an asinine position.

no daps.

good work