Shaq: I Agree With What T-Mac Said. Probably Get A Lot Of Flak, But I Always Said Myself, I , I Think I Could've Got 3 In A Row With T-Mac.

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Yes that's where it started retard. Then the term started gettin used for actual elite defenders that took pride in defense and guardin Kobe. I posted the article from a actual NBA writer

"Battier was the man known around the NBA as the greatest of the “Kobe Stoppers,” the select group of players who were paid to defend one of the most prolific scorers the game has ever seen. He was smart enough not to call himself a Kobe Stopper, this peculiar species that Bryant delighted in humiliating, because he understood that declaring you could stop Kobe happened to be the worst strategy for actually doing so. "

That's what they started to get called in the 2000s you'd know that if you was watchin hoops back then. WTF are you even arguin at this point :dahell:

I think thats kind of the point though.

Who were the Shaq "stoppers"

only thing stopping that big dikkhead in his prime was hack a shaq, the buffet and ice cream.
 

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Yeah man seeing nikkas crash out then triple down just spamming of post.. “cultist” :childplease: Lord pray for the lame ass nikkas
Imagine a cult nikka not being anything other than lame :russ:isn't it time to pray to your shrine you goofy nikka
 

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I think thats kind of the point though.

Who were the Shaq "stoppers"

only thing stopping that big dikkhead in his prime was hack a shaq, the buffet and ice cream.

Shaq been unguardable damn near since he got to the league as a rook. His problem was always defensive consistency specially when he couldn't camp in paint and was forced to guard in space out the paint

Karl Malone talkin bout Shaq and Barkley dookie pick and roll defense laughin at knowin it was free points callin that play on em



Here article from 04 durin the Pistons series where everyone was seein Shaq pick and roll defense exploited and targetted


The Los Angeles Lakers' shoddy pick-and-roll defense probably will improve only when Shaquille O'Neal decides it's necessary.

Chauncey Billups and Richard Hamilton practically scored at will on the play during the first two games of the NBA Finals usually on picks set by Ben Wallace. O'Neal has the responsibility to stop the point guard's penetration but sometimes the superstar center doesn't feel like it.

When asked how the Lakers will adjust to the Pistons' bread-and-butter play coach Phil Jackson managed to slip in another gentle dig at his big man.

"It's probably going to be interesting to see what he does" Jackson said before Game — last night. "Because a lot of times he'll play it soft in the early parts of the game.

"We hound him to get out there and he'll come on out later in the game when it becomes critical depending upon his foul situation and what his level of condition is in the game as far as tired or active or whatever."

 

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if someone asked you who was the better player in 2002/2003.. it wouldn’t have been seen as ridiculous.

When y’all take your feelings out of this take, it’s not that ridiculous.

Early 2000’s Shaq was the best player on the planet and unstoppable. They literally made rules for him. This take says more about Shaq than it does Kobe. I completely understand him saying he would have had the same success with any other top 15-20 player at the time. He was that dominant.

Obviously Kobe’s legacy is way more impactful than Tmac.
 
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Phill Jackson wins with Shaq/Penny or T-Mac
No he doesn’t but you’ve never been a Kobe guy so whatever. Always had some sideways stuff to say about “Kobe stans” while being a Lakers fan but never had that energy towards LeBron stans.

But the more alarming thing is as a former athlete yourself, you’re over here committing a cardinal sin of sports - giving someone hypothetical accolades. You don’t get to say what so and so would’ve done in this situation because they weren’t in that situation and we don’t have evidence of it. That’s all speculative and undermines someone who actually accomplished something.
 
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if someone asked you who was the better player in 2002/2003.. it wouldn’t have been seen as ridiculous.

When y’all take your feelings out of this take, it’s not that ridiculous.

Early 2000’s Shaq was the best player on the planet and unstoppable. They literally made rules for him. This take says more about Shaq than it does Kobe. I completely understand him saying he would have had the same success with any other top 15-20 player at the time. He was that dominant.

Obviously Kobe’s legacy is way more impactful than Tmac.
Shaq went to two games 7s during that time span and lost in 03 being outplayed by Tim Duncan. The idea that T-Mac just gets hypothetical credit for all of Kobe’s big moments during that span is insane.
 

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No he doesn’t
his track record says otherwise, but real talk, fukk your “the inner mind of reb” exaggerated thesis. shyt is script writing at its finest and moves from my point that Phil Jackson has a stellar record of coaching winning teams and you havemt added value to your one sentence “no.”

Lazy as fukk. Nothing said by me had to do with Kobe.

Kobe isnt the only player hes won with
 
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This is terrible for your point. For one it’s blind ring counting, but also its proof that a great deal of Kobe’s legacy vs Shaq’s is built on marketing and ‘feel’, bc of course Kobe was far more articulate, PR savvy, sharp, witty, etc than Shaq

5> 4….tf does that even mean when I gave you 3? :heh: As if Shaq couldn’t have crushed the buildings by posting shyt like this ….

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Or this….

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Or this…
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36 and 12. Ffs. Yea I would try to erase him from memory too :heh:
Now post the WCF stats you fukking idiot
 

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Comedic gold, if you ever need a good chuckle just read these Kobe Cultist threads :mjlol:
You a fakkit…. :demonic:kobe was guarding every teams best perimeter player while fisher was doing w.e
Shaq is on video humping kevin hart
Tmac is famous for wearing shaq size suit :takedat:
 

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Right. T-Mac couldn't get out of the first round but yet was supposed to 3peat.

Playoff basketball is different from the regular season
Ya'll fooling yourselves if you don't think prime McGrady wouldn't win with Prime Shaq. This is when Shaq and Duncan were the best players in the world
 

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Kobe Bryant himself has literally said tmac was just as good as him and good defender but at 6’10 and mfs are acting like what shaq said is wrong lmao. So I guess we can’t even trust Kobe own words.
It's ridiculous when you think about it. I for one think and always had Kobe as the better player. That said, prime T-Mac would have won titles with Shaq. Let's say Shaq never left Orlando. They traded Penny and signed T-Mac in FA. Shaq could have won titles with Shaq. Many titles.
 
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