Shaq: I Agree With What T-Mac Said. Probably Get A Lot Of Flak, But I Always Said Myself, I , I Think I Could've Got 3 In A Row With T-Mac.

[Yungin]

@ together

Kobe was the most wildly competitive person on the planet, countless teammates who didn’t deserve to be on the court with him, sulking after winning a chip, etc, oh but when he got clear Robin numbers and a teammate flirting with 40 and 15 oh now now we clueless about differentiating the #1 vs #2. Oh now it’s ‘aye let’s stick together’


Scroll up and look at their stats for those rings. For the purposes of how we discuss greatness, they did not win those rings “together”. Stop it

As far as 2 to 1, so if Pippen won with the Blazers that year, he’d be better than Jordan? Kobe fans are too clouded by emotion to think logically

But he didn’t win. Y’all and these what if scenarios lol. The fact is Kobe won 2 without Shaq and Shaq won 1 without Kobe. Nothing is changing that. Oh and Shaq moment of being on top and winning will always be known as Shaq and Kobe/ Kobe and Shaq. Kobe will always be attached to his legacy, hence this thread.. but Kobe built his own legacy after him, was on top and won without him . 5>4

 

[daboywonder2002]

I've see nothin from vince or mcgrady's career that would suggest they woulda woulda won with shaq. He's basing it off raw talent but there's alot more that goes into it.

They would be lucky to win one together

Mcgrady definitely winning 1 maybe 2. Triangle offense. Mcgrady was a good passer. I think he would have thrived in that system. I don't think they beat the Kings with Mcgrady though and I'm not sure they come back from 15 down against Portland either.

 

[etrofllenrod504]

I’m not even a Kobe fan and hated him during his playing career. But this hypothetical through one lens shyt is soooo stupid. This ONLY sounds like Shaq trying to ride a wave to downplay Kobe to elevate himself further in those championships, like hey I could replace X and do the same 3 chips.
Reality is Kobe was just as important cause he was great enough to hold Shaq fatass accountable through his constant lazy spells.

I remember plenty in those playoffs Kobe being the catalyst on offense and defense and setting the tone. TMAC as for as talented as a scorer he was he did not have that same tenacity on defense like Kobe.

If those teams had Shaq mentality from leadership they don’t 3peat imo. Kobe gave no fukks and only cared about winning. Shaq lazy ass cared about bytches, eating, and just being good enough since he didn’t have no other center during in his prime that could compete with him.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Bruh these nikkas just started watching basketball look at these troll ass comments. The man is dead and they have no problem shytting on his legacy fine! Dusty shyt… clown in here told me “rabbit got the gun in comparison” as if this debate just started sad, it been damn near 30 years later and here we are!

You remedial ass nxgga, I'm talking about how you're the one being "disingenious" talking about x-player's teammates as it relates to their legacy, and how y'all Kobe stans constantly do it when other players are concerned. Y'all constantly twist and manipulate everything that you can to drag players like Bron down.

So yes, it ain't no fun for y'all now that the rabbit has the gun and y'all have to defend yourselves over the same tactics y'all infamously help create.

Now we have clowns like you in here calling a top-10 player OAT a "fat, lazy ass underachieving c00n".

If you're gonna fight dirty, don't cry about how you think others are doing so too.

 

[darryl]

I’m not even a Kobe fan and hated him during his playing career. But this hypothetical through one lens shyt is soooo stupid. This ONLY sounds like Shaq trying to ride a wave to downplay Kobe to elevate himself further in those championships, like hey I could replace X and do the same 3 chips.
Reality is Kobe was just as important cause he was great enough to hold Shaq fatass accountable through his constant lazy spells.

I remember plenty in those playoffs Kobe being the catalyst on offense and defense and setting the tone. TMAC as for as talented as a scorer he was he did not have that same tenacity on defense like Kobe.

If those teams had Shaq mentality from leadership they don’t 3peat imo. Kobe gave no fukks and only cared about winning. Shaq lazy ass cared about bytches, eating, and just being good enough since he didn’t have no other center during in his prime that could compete with him.

You ain't a Kobe fan and hated him during his career yet preceded to write a novel hating on Shaq and slurping Kobe off.

Stfu nikka you ain't fooling nobody

 

[bigde09]

Shaq ain’t winning 6 with anyone This is the same guy that showed up fatter each season after he started winning. Same guy that underachieved until Phil got to LA and motivated his lazy ass to win MVP.

 

[Remote]

Shaq played with Penny ain't win shiit. Went to a 50 win Laker team and kept them on the treadmill. Wins 3 rings with Kobe. Decides his fat ass doesnt need to get in shape. Gets traded to Miami gets dragged to a title bt D. Wade, but we supposed to believe he was really him? FOH Shaq is overrated,

Shaq is overrated?



This thread is so good.

 

[Midwest]

Shaq ain’t winning 6 with anyone This is the same guy that showed up fatter each season after he started winning. Same guy that underachieved until Phil got to LA and motivated his lazy ass to win MVP.

They wasn’t watching basketball during that time clearly… for them to question shaq being an underachieving fat slob tells me everything I need to know!!! Prop him up after being swept countless times to shyt on Kobe! Yeah

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

They wasn’t watching basketball during that time clearly… for them to question shaq being an underachieving fat slob tells me everything I need to know!!! Prop him up after being swept countless times to shyt on Kobe! Yeah

And aren't you shytting on Shaq to prop up Kobe? How's your behavior any different to those you're throwing accusations at?

 

[NYC Rebel]

Phill Jackson wins with Shaq/Penny or T-Mac

 

[Shadow King]

Breh 2000-2004 Kobe scored more than SHAQ!

Kobe- 9,892

Shaq- 8,778

How the sidekick scored more than the “leader” in his PRIME?

 

[The War Report]

Phill Jackson wins with Shaq/Penny or T-Mac

Prob would of had T Mac look like the best player in the world.

 

[etrofllenrod504]

You ain't a Kobe fan and hated him during his career yet preceded to write a novel hating on Shaq and slurping Kobe off.

Stfu nikka you ain't fooling nobody

I don’t have to prove nnothing to you bozo. I can call a spade a spade. Sorry your goofy ass brain can’t speak unbiased about a player you didn’t root for. It’s called being grown kid.

 

[Braman]

But he didn’t win. Y’all and these what if scenarios lol. The fact is Kobe won 2 without Shaq and Shaq won 1 without Kobe. Nothing is changing that. Oh and Shaq moment of being on top and winning will always be known as Shaq and Kobe/ Kobe and Shaq. Kobe will always be attached to his legacy, hence this thread.. but Kobe built his own legacy after him, was on top and won without him . 5>4

Oh dont worry brother we have plenty of parallel examples to render your logic asinine

Dennis Rodman won 3 chips without Isiah. I guess he’s better. Ray Allen won one without KG. In gueee he’s better. Jrue Holiday won one without Giannis. I guess he’s better.

Also most people don’t think of 5>4. They think of 3> 0. As in 3 Finals MVP’s. Also ‘ 5>4’ is especially funny since that’s the same edge Kobe has over Bron in rings yet Kobe is never, EVER, ahead of bron on any reputable list. EVER. Which shows that rational, un-emotional folk are capable of not being a 12 year old and blindly ring counting

But anyway, meh. Scoreboard

Bleacher Report Ranks Kobe Bryant As 11th Greatest Player Of All Time; Stephen Curry In Top 10

Bleacher Report ranks Stephen Curry above Kobe Bryant in all-time list, sparking major fan outrage.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Left.A1]

Pretend like "Kobe stopper" never existed brehs try hard nerd shyt.

So you really think I made that up

Fkn dummy

Bruh these nikkas just started watching basketball look at these troll ass comments. The man is dead and they have no problem shytting on his legacy fine! Dusty shyt… clown in here told me “rabbit got the gun in comparison” as if this debate just started sad, it been damn near 30 years later and here we are!

Kobe talked about this too

These dumb cult ass retards are in a thread PROUDLY bragging about Ruben fukking Patterson being their lord and saviors “stopper” while trying to convince us that nobody but Kobe Christ could have won with Shaq


The fact that they don't even comprehend the irony in that or how this in itself shyts on Kobe and his competition level is comedic gold


The most delusional and incompetent stanbase in sports history by far