Shaun alexander announced 14th kid

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Male biology also predisposes us to murder each other. But that behavior is neither ethical nor moral just because it happens to be a human instinct. That's the point I'm making. Human beings are different than animals Because we can think beyond our primitive instincts. We can see the consequences of our actions. So as modern people, we are fully aware of the consequences of not giving our kids the full amount of attention they need. The bad ethics comes from you being aware of this , and choosing to not give this time to those kids by splitting their original time by more offspring or giving it to your personal life.


Its Also worth noting that we are wired that way particularly Because our children were not intended to survive. For most of human history disease, birth defects , famine, war , and poor medical care made the odds of your kids making it to adulthood horribly low. But when you take away these pressures in modern society, You are left with children That nature never intended for you to still have.
exactly we as designed to have more children because up till 1000 years ago Men stastically lived to be 35. so we had to reproduce.

The wild thing is that your descendants are unlikely to be alive 400 years from now but your ancestor of 400 years ago genes survived because he had a gang of kids.

You read european royal bloodlines and they died out many many times and they tried to preserve it because although some dudes are successful in having a lot of kids some of his kids will have one or no children.


It's wild that you're way more related genetically speaking to your female ancestor of 500 years ago than you are to your Male ancestor because almost every woman has children less than half of Men globally and historically speaking has children.


Finally there's the FBA debate. Black Americans will likely be Argentina'ed in 200 to 300 years at the rate we're going 53% of Black American Men are single and childless I think that 72% of Black American women have kids.

@Pull Up the Roots kinda corrected me but there's 2million babies born by Black women where the heritage could possibly be mixed or in question.

Again as Roots said it could be that the race of the fathers are not listed but also 20% of Black American Men are coupled to someone not Black American
 

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No one rich or poor black or white should have that many kids. That tells me them people are not right, maybe early cte. You don’t have the time or energy to properly raise that many kids. It’s a bit selfish and after 5 you should be shamed.
so dude has CTE but the woman birthed the kids?

Had she taken a morning after pill he'd be none the wiser.
 

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Why do you have a problem with a rich successful black family producing offspring :mjpls:

We as black people need to start having more children


The most pro black thing you can do is to bring more black people in this world
I have no problem with someone having children.

I have a bit of a problem with someone having 14 of them.

I don’t care what color they are.

:manny:
 

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I have no problem with someone having children.

I have a bit of a problem with someone having 14 of them.

I don’t care what color they are.

:manny:
Then to walk you through your logic then women should be sterilized after having a certain amount of kids deemed acceptable to you.
 

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Then to walk you through your logic then women should be sterilized after having a certain amount of kids deemed acceptable to you.
You don’t have to be sterilized to not have any more children.
 

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You don’t have to be sterilized to not have any more children.
But women are the deciders on how many if any children will be born. Unless you're demanding Men be sterilized I don't see how you can stop people from having the amount of kids they want in a free and open economy.
 

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But women are the deciders on how many if any children will be born. Unless you're demanding Men be sterilized I don't see how you can stop people from having the amount of kids they want in a free and open economy.
Most people manage to NOT have 14 kids without sterilization.
 

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Not really based on money, moreso time.

Unless you can buy yourself a clone, There is a moral/ethical cap on how many other human beings you can legitimately support emotionally/mentally/socially.

There will be a day in middle school when every single child is being bullied simultaneously and there are literally not enough hours in the day to councel them mentally. There will be a time when each kid is at a different recital/sport/play/camp and each event is happening on the same friday in different parts of town. In highschool , they will all be acting out at the same time too. The absence of a parent stings bitterly at moments like this

Where rich people mess up is they think a tutor or nanny can fill in for that one-on-one time that is critical for child development. They assume a house, clothing , and food is enough to make them a good parent. But the psychosocial aspect is often lacking.

I see both points people are making. But in regards to the bolded, it’s not too likely his kids are gonna have problems with bullies being that it’s 14 of them.
 

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Most people manage to NOT have 14 kids without sterilization.
Not buy design. the wild thing is that you need either slaves or a gang of children to help you farm.

So if you're in New York and you want Avacado toast in the winter the only way you're getting it is because some farmer had way more kids than he "needed" so he planted a gang of trees to pay for the additional kids to shake the avocados out of the trees.

But believe that evolution happens rapidly and people have a Vulcan style logical system



right now there's a drug war again logically they plant coca and so they have a bunch of kids
 

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Breh be real. Lets not talk ideology. Lets talk practicality. The same reason you cant work 5 full-time jobs is the same reason you cant have 14 kids. :usure:


There is a time commitment. And you have a limited amount of hours in your day. When you don't have enough time to do your 5 jobs, Then corners start being cut. For these same reasons, It is unethical to have more kids than you can realistically tend to . Its a recipe for emotional neglect or ordinary neglect. The end result is an unethical parent missing critical moments in their children's lives.

You can quantify exactly how long a recital/parent teacher conference/ playoff game/camp/ relationship counceling / behavioral discipline each take And you will very quickly realize no human being can afford to do this for a dozen kids. Normal parents can only do it because these events don't happen at the same time. But they will constantly be happening at the same time when you have that many kids. And every single absence at a time when your children need you stings, leaving scars that are often remembered into adulthood.



And you know what the crazy part is? The worst part isnt that the children will be alone when those kids need you to councel them on a relationship, or when they need you to stop them from doing something stupid. It's that other people will fill that hole ranging from bad peers on the better side , to outright predators in the worst case scenario. :francis:
This is definitely a pessimistic mindset. Not every kid is gonna feel unloved or rejected if the parents can’t make it to every event. They’ll grow up and be just fine, if the parents present as loving and as trying. If you have the means, and you have to make sure all the needs of these kids are met, then who’s to say what resentment these children will harbor into adulthood, unless they’re actually shytty parents. When you have that many brothers and sisters to rely on, that also adds to the “village” dynamic in terms of helping out. This is 14 kids with the same woman. There appears to be no shenanigans here. Predators can happen to any kid whether it’s 14 kids in the family, or it’s only a two kid nuclear family. You’re using probability based on “the more kids there are, the more predators can feast” mindset. That’s hella pessimistic, but can happen to literally any kid. Might as well not have kids at all, whether 14 or 1. :mjlol:
 

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No one rich or poor black or white should have that many kids. That tells me them people are not right, maybe early cte. You don’t have the time or energy to properly raise that many kids. It’s a bit selfish and after 5 you should be shamed.
“After 5, you should be shamed.”

You @CopiousX and @Remote acting like this man blew up a daycare. :dead:
 
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