She Is At It Again! Hillary Clinton calls Bernie Sanders sexist in new book

[Roger king]

This country would have been in a far better position had hillary clinton beaten trump and this was her second tenure in office. Trump picking 3 supreme court justices who will be on the bench atleast for the next 30 years has undone irreperable harm to democracy, civil rights and the rule of law

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Because Trump is an 80yo fool who operates on instinct and prejudice, not on information. He literally grew up during the Red Scare and thought this was still the 1960s and just yelling "Socialist!" would be enough.

I mean there were plenty of right-wingers in 2008 who were excited when Obama won the nomination over Clinton cause they thought a Black liberal with a Muslim name couldn't win.

Hillary's team celebrated in 2016 when Trump won the nomination and we all know how that turned out.

See, you and I have a different view of things and we need to reconcile that before I answer what you said in your previous post, because I strongly disagree with what you're saying here.

The reason Trump clung to the socialist narrative during the 2020 election was because "socialist" is a historic scare term for mainstream America. America doesn't like socialists or socialism, as far as the term goes (I am well aware that socialism is actually practiced in America, but the people do not like the term "socialism").

Trump would have beat the living hell out of Bernie Sanders in 2020. There is a reason why in the last couple of presidential elections, the word "socialist" has been touted and used. Why? Because the socialist attack is effective.

And Bernie truly IS a socialist. There is no scenario where Bernie can win a presidential election. The only potential time he COULD have won was 2016 against Trump, but the DNC stole that moment from him. And even then, that would have been a toss-up.

 

[Matriarchy Refugee]

But if you ain't got the political chops to be able to forge relationships with people who you need, instead of insulting them and their gender, then you will never get a chance to implement those policy ideas.

It still blows my mind that Bernie alienated Liz Warren when their policies are ALIGNED. But she endorsed Biden instead of endorsing him cause he was such an a$$hole that he burned that bridge with her.









If I didn't vote for Bernie, I would say that breh I have no reason to lie.

I didn't vote for Obama in 2008. I have no issue admitting my voting record. I'm not a "centrist". I'm an independent. But I voted for Bernie cause I didn't want Hillary as president. However when she became the nominee, I did vote for her over Trump.

I wasn't a huge huge Bernie fan, but I preferred him over Hillary.

Women took it as an insult for him to say that a woman can't be president. I mean, I agree with him, but I can also see how women would take it some kinda way.


Furthermore, I'm not a neoliberal, not even a liberal. I'm an independent centrist voter.

Can't even stay consistent in the same thread




I see why you a Hillary stan

 

[Chrishaune]

Hillary is a Jezebel.

 

[KFBF]

When you’ve been a politician as long as Hilary you start to think you’re own some level of deference and care more about the song and dance than enacting policies that better peoples lives.

We’re supposed to overlook mainstream dems being beholden to corporations and derisively get the term “purity test” thrown at us to justify cia stooges like Pete or the “top cop” Kamala. Surely they could overlook a little sexism (that I don’t believe Bernie committed) for the good of the party?

Also, Warren didn’t endorse him because she was bitter and thought Biden would give her a more prominent role. The warren campaign was a failure of tremendous levels. They never really understood what they were doing as was exemplified by all the money they were giving to black blue check grifters to put together fake barbershops and other stupid shyt for optics. When warren and her team first started this sense why didn’t they just come out and say what Bernie did that was so sexist? Not stepping aside is not sexist. Hilary and Warren weren’t owed anything. It would make more sense if warren and Bernie were identical politicians with identical positions. But they aren’t.

All that being said Bernie probably should not run again. I don’t see how this ends any differently. What’s to stop the democratic establishment from conspiring and getting Obama to put his thumb on the scale again to get Pete or the nyc mayor or whoever they decide will do the bidding of establishment dems.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Trump would have beat the living hell out of Bernie Sanders in 2020. There is a reason why in the last couple of presidential elections, the word "socialist" has been touted and used. Why? Because the socialist attack is effective.

And Bernie truly IS a socialist. There is no scenario where Bernie can win a presidential election. The only potential time he COULD have won was 2016 against Trump, but the DNC stole that moment from him. And even then, that would have been a toss-up.

In 2020, there was literally no one left who knew who Bernie Sanders was who hadn't heard him associated with Socialism. He was a known quantity who had been in the public eye for 40 years and who was in his 2nd presidential run.

And yet he was killing Trump in the polls, more than any other candidate. When Trump called him a socialist, who the hell would be changing their mind? Literally every person who was pro-Bernie would already be aware of that.

 

[Cotton Hill]

LOL @ Mrs. Super Predator calling someone else an a$$hole

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Can't even stay consistent in the same thread




I see why you a Hillary stan

Did you not call me a centrist liberal?

I corrected you and told you I'm not a liberal at all. Act like I didn't make that clear in my response to you. Be an idiot, brehs.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

In 2020, there was literally no one left who knew who Bernie Sanders was who hadn't heard him associated with Socialism. He was a known quantity who had been in the public eye for 40 years and who was in his 2nd presidential run.

And yet he was killing Trump in the polls, more than any other candidate. When Trump called him a socialist, who the hell would be changing their mind? Literally every person who was pro-Bernie would already be aware of that.

Bro are you being facetious right now? I don't mind debating you but I don't know if you're serious or not.

Okay I've told the forums that I have a background in politics (I run campaigns) and the reason why Trump would run the socialist smear campaign is not to frighten off progressive democrats. It would be to frighten off independent voters (who are in normal times the actual swath of the population that determines a presidential race outcome) and to activate and galvanize the MAGA base.

Biden was always ahead of Bernie in the polls UNTIL that first debate. That's when Biden's poll numbers dipped. Until then, he was always the front runner in the polls.

As far as Bernie being in the public eye for 40 years, the general American population didn't know Bernie's name until 2016.

 

[KFBF]

Biden was always ahead of Bernie in the polls UNTIL that first debate

Do you have a source for this claim? I just feel if it was true way more people would be citing this.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Do you have a source for this claim? I just feel if it was true way more people would be citing this.

I'll get the source when I get back to my computer tonight. It was in the news at the time.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Bro are you being facetious right now? I don't mind debating you but I don't know if you're serious or not.

Okay I've told the forums that I have a background in politics (I run campaigns) and the reason why Trump would run the socialist smear campaign is not to frighten off progressive democrats. It would be to frighten off independent voters (who are in normal times the actual swath of the population that determines a presidential race outcome) and to activate and galvanize the MAGA base.

But the independent voters who supported Bernie had already heard him called a socialist over and over during the previous 5 years. This is literally the era of Democratic Socialists winning House seats, their name was in the news constantly. The media was calling him a socialist over and over during the primaries too, even trying to associate him with Cuba and Soviet Russia and communism. Who would have heard of Bernie, decided to favor him, and not have already heard him get called a socialist?

As far as Bernie being in the public eye for 40 years, the general American population didn't know Bernie's name until 2016.

That's not true (polls in 2015 showed the majority of Americans were familiar with him, even if it was recent), and whether they learned about him in 2016 or 2015 that's still 4-5 full years to hear him get called a socialist over and over by his opponents. And he STILL was doing better against Trump in head-to-head polls than Biden was.

And the truth is that Biden underperformed his polling, doing worse in Wisconsin/Pennsylvania/Michigan than he was expected to and making the race closer than it should have been. Whereas Bernie's strength with young, independent, and Hispanic voters (three groups that don't usually vote) suggest that he was likely to outperform his polling numbers, because pollsters don't account as much for groups that hadn't turned out previously.

 

[GPBear]

her husband fukked an intern with a cigar

 

[GPBear]

I hope neither of the two run again. Folks are too damn old and out of touch.

there should be a maximum age limit for politicians.

average life expectancy - your term length = max.

why should you be allowed to control the future of a country when you're on death's door and clearly more incentivized to only care about your only short-term self interests? not to mention it would give politicians a reason to up the life expenctacy by addressing things such as infant mortality, hunger, etc.

 

[GPBear]

In 2020, there was literally no one left who knew who Bernie Sanders was who hadn't heard him associated with Socialism. He was a known quantity who had been in the public eye for 40 years and who was in his 2nd presidential run.

And yet he was killing Trump in the polls, more than any other candidate. When Trump called him a socialist, who the hell would be changing their mind? Literally every person who was pro-Bernie would already be aware of that.

it's just a historical fact. look at the 2016 primaries. bernie was consistently beating clinton in the rural counties, while clinton barely took the cities. the DNC going with Clinton was a massive blunder considering the urban areas would vote for whoever the democratic candidate was, meanwhile it was the rural areas that came out in overwhelming support for trump. instead, the 'democrat' mega-sponsors took their ball and went home on some 'if we can't win, nobody can' shyt. same shyt they pulled in 2020 when they circled the wagons to make sure sanders didn't get the nod.