She Should Know You Want the Cheeks...

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Cut it out... You made a HARD pivot

This is you:




You didn't make it about "being clear with your intentions for a purely sexual relationship." You stated that we should state "WE WANT TO HAVE SEX" and doubled down with "NOT leaving it up to a vibe."

Now you saying, "Oh I meant, just tell her your overall intentions to have sex AND not be in a relationship!"




Again... most nikkas gonna tell you they ain't looking for nothing serious on the first damn meeting. What we aren't going to do is say "We want to have sex" as you are quoted telling us to ask for

Men get jammed up because you will tell a woman every single thing in this post, she will agree, she will fukk you, and then she STILL will press YOU for more, as if you need to give her a weekly speech about how your mind has NOT changed.



Women aren't fukking babies.. How many times does a man need to say "I don't want anything more," before it becomes her own damn fault for playing games and trying to fukk us into a relationship?

Respectfully I didn't read all that. Didn't you say you were done with the conversation or am I mistaken?

 

[Starman]

Most women barely have standards.

Nah. They have standards. That's why the top 20 percent of men get 80 percent of the women.

If women had low standards as a rule, more men would be getting laid.

 

[Tetris v2.0]

Side note:

When it comes to managing women, how you start, the relationship is very important.

When you establish yourself as an authority early, usually two things happen.

1. She'll resist and leave quickly or
2. They'll accept it, will require very little reinforcement and, usually, she'll uphold your authority to others.

So whenever I see relationships where the woman uses disrespectful language towards the man and/or makes snide or disrespectful comments in the presence of others I know that man never established himself as a authority.

I don't date women, but I understand how they operate.

Or, something happened that unbalanced the scales of power well into the relationship. Maybe he cheated or fukked up, and is in the doghouse or whatever

Maybe there's kids or finances tied up and they can't just break up as easily

I've seen dudes who seem to have it together, fumble and lose their footing and respect. Pride is a killer, some will just take the L and leave, others will try to salvage it. It's different when a family is involved...I hope

I agree with your point in general but there are exceptions where this kicks in after the relationship already took off

 

[Tetris v2.0]

I agree men who listen to women about this stuff are fools they are pontificating liars. They will give you advice about whining and dining while they let a dude they are attracted to fukk her raw she just meet.

They should definitely listen to what women are saying tho, just not take that shyt at face value

There are trends, profiles, projections, body language, choice of words etc. What a woman you're interested in has to say about this shyt, should definitely be something you want to hear...

It's a calculation towards the truth. But you need to be discerning as the listener

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Or, something happened that unbalanced the scales of power well into the relationship. Maybe he cheated or fukked up, and is in the doghouse or whatever

Maybe there's kids or finances tied up and they can't just break up as easily

I've seen dudes who seem to have it together, fumble and lose their footing and respect. Pride is a killer, some will just take the L and leave, others will try to salvage it. It's different when a family is involved...I hope

I agree with your point in general but there are exceptions where this kicks in after the relationship already took off

In either case, he's no longer the authority of the house via his own inability to hold himself to the standard, yes?

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Nah. They have standards. That's why the top 20 percent of men get 80 percent of the women.

If women had low standards as a rule, more men would be getting laid.

The same women y'all complain have multiple baby fathers and dating broke thugs, those women with standards?

 

[Voice of Reason]

I want the cheeks op

 

[Starman]

The same women y'all complain have multiple baby fathers and dating broke thugs, those women with standards?

Yeah. Their standards are just poor. But they exist...

It's qualities like:

Status in the hood, relative amount money, swag, looks, height...

It's qualities that most men don't have enough of, but obviously still doesn't lead to a quality male partner.

 

[Tetris v2.0]

In either case, he's no longer the authority of the house via his own inability to hold himself to the standard, yes?

In most cases, yeah

Do you think the standard is static or dynamic?

Simple example, she levels up career-wise and has a different social currency and lease on life. Can he hang on with strictly machismo and dikkmatism? Does he need to level up accordingly and how is that defined? Can she continue to defer to his authority when she's growing in certain ways and he isn't?

There is sooooo much nuance here

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

In most cases, yeah

Do you think the standard is static or dynamic?

Simple example, she levels up career-wise and has a different social currency and lease on life. Can he hang on with strictly machismo and dikkmatism? Does he need to level up accordingly and how is that defined? Can she continue to defer to his authority when she's growing in certain ways and he isn't?

There is sooooo much nuance here

I think you and I have different definitions of a respect and authority. I don't understand where "dikkmatism and machismo" comes into this conversation.

You literally started this dialogue by quoting my post about how I, as a woman, establish authority and respect amongst women who work under me.

I don't use dikk or machismo to achieve these results and neither of those two concepts equate to respect nor authority imo.

Perhaps we're having two different conversations.

 

[Tetris v2.0]

I think you and I have different definitions of a respect and authority. I don't understand where "dikkmatism and machismo" comes into this conversation.

You literally started this dialogue by quoting my post about how I, as a woman, establish authority and respect amongst women who work under me.

I don't use dikk or machismo to achieve these results and neither of those two concepts equate to respect nor authority imo.

Perhaps we're having two different conversations.

Remove that sentence from the post - are you able to give a reply to the rest? Or do you need to reframe the whole topic based on two words...

Respectfully, you're speaking about how a man asserts authority in a relationship based how you manage women... I don't care about your leadership style at work lol

I'm talking about whether that "standard" you referred to is static or dynamic, and who defines it and when

You're acting like an ironclad contract is signed when people link up. I've been married ten years. I can tell you that the dynamic has shifted over time but always evens out

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Remove that sentence from the post - are you able to give a reply? Or do you need to reframe the whole topic based on two words...

Those two words are significant. They reflect your point of view which is completely off base with my point of view.

If you think respect and authority are established through dikk and superfically performative actions we aren't having the same conversation.

I am talking about the concept of respect being gained through authority, consistency and morality. So even if I remove the words, the question still doesn't make sense in relation to my point of view.

 

[Tetris v2.0]

Simple example, that employee who reports to you eventually moves to a new department and suddenly they are your peer, what changes to that dynamic?

Why should a top-down reporting structure inform anything to do with a romantic partnership...

 

[Tetris v2.0]

Those two words are significant. They reflect your point of view which is completely off base with my point of view.

If you think respect and authority are established through dikk and superfically performative actions we aren't having the same conversation.

I am talking about the concept of respect being gained through authority, consistency and morality. So even if I remove the words, the question still doesn't make sense in relation to my point of view.

I don't think those things...

Urges and desires don't reflect values and priorities, unless that person is maladjusted. This is sadly a reality for many, but that sentence was more of a joke...

Sometimes a person's appreciation for the other's physical can carry parts of the relationship when other things are lacking. I gave a crude example but it definitely happens lol

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Simple example, that employee who reports to you eventually moves to a new department and suddenly they are your peer, what changes to that dynamic?

Why should a top-down reporting structure inform anything to do with a romantic partnership...

I've already told you that respect and authority are maintained via consistency and morality. If someone becomes an authority in their own right then respect is maintained. The structure just looks different.

"Top-down reporting" doesn't equate to respect. I'm sure you have had plenty of bosses that you didn't respect because of their conduct even though they outranked you.