Sheek Louch on the Music Industry: They Put an Age Limit on Rap + Ghostwriting discussion

[backbreaker65]

Rap fans are the dumbest fans on earth. The first thing that comes out of their mouth is this mythical "his music didn't grow" or "he raps about the same thing" This shyt is stupid and dumb when you compare all other genres of music. Luther song loves songs for 2 decades, EarthWind and Fire made the same song in many different ways. U2 been making the same song for 3 decades. The same goes for most authors of murder novels ect... BB KIng sang the blues with basically the same subject matter in 50s 60s 70s and 80s Y'all need to stop with that dumb argument because it's stupid and short sighted. And fans don't out grown music because another dude comes along and raps about the same shyt, You just want a new messenger.

And when a rapper/singer tries to do something different you don't support and you say stay in your lane.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

No there isn't an age limit in rap. Rappers are some of the most immature individuals on earth. Hip hop artists don't grow and their music doesn't reflect their level of maturity as it should like other genres. Which is one reason why I really enjoyed Nas Life Is Good. He was on his grown man likes many of us fans are. Sorry that Sheek is still rapping about being about being a silver back guerilla slinging packs that's on him

 

[tremonthustler1]

No there isn't an age limit in rap. Rappers are some of the most immature individuals on earth. Hip hop artists don't grow and their music doesn't reflect their level of maturity as it should like other genres. Which is one reason why I really enjoyed Nas Life Is Good. He was on his grown man likes many of us fans are. Sorry that Sheek is still rapping about being about being a silver back guerilla slinging packs that's on him

DONNIE!

 

[Calmye]

That along with the fact a lot don't make it easy on themselves when they have one topic or style they rap about.

50 my dude but I'll be dammed if he didn't hurt himself by not letting his music grow as he did. I would think as an artist gets older family life etc would come into they music.
Imagine a top 5 artist rapping bout tax/stocks/realty etc ....the impact would be huge.

At this point tho a lot of our people rapping are conditioned to rap about certain topics.

jae

 

[DaddyTime]

That along with the fact a lot don't make it easy on themselves when they have one topic or style they rap about.

50 my dude but I'll be dammed if he didn't hurt himself by not letting his music grow as he did. I would think as an artist gets older family life etc would come into they music.
Imagine a top 5 artist rapping bout tax/stocks/realty etc ....the impact would be huge.

At this point tho a lot of our people rapping are conditioned to rap about certain topics.

the revolution wont be televised.

 

[SirBiatch]

To this day, the best "grown man" rap albums I've ever heard are "A Long Hot Summer" and "Connected".

As long as you have great vocal delivery and hard interesting beats, you can rap about ANYTHING.

I think record companies deliberately made rap a young man's game because it wasn't always that way. Even though yes - it was more of a youth thing but hip hop really grew on college radio. Now you can barely like modern rap once you hit college.

 

[backbreaker65]

That along with the fact a lot don't make it easy on themselves when they have one topic or style they rap about.

50 my dude but I'll be dammed if he didn't hurt himself by not letting his music grow as he did. I would think as an artist gets older family life etc would come into they music.
Imagine a top 5 artist rapping bout tax/stocks/realty etc ....the impact would be huge.

At this point tho a lot of our people rapping are conditioned to rap about certain topics.

This is what I'm talking about, dumb as statement, short sighted and stupid.

50 tried to do something else but you nikkas clowned him. Fif did rap about nasdaq and wallstreet, and financial freedom but you nikkas wouldn't listen. Everything has been said under the son ain't nothing new. Explain the growth in U2 whose been doing the same music for 3 decades? explain a host of R&B, Rock, Country artist who stay in their lane for decades and still manage success? Straw man arguments are cheap and easily torn down.

Made one of the most inspirational rap songs "God gave Me style" but no one listened.

 

[The God Poster]

This is what I'm talking about, dumb as statement, short sighted and stupid.

50 tried to do something else but you nikkas clowned him. Fif did rap about nasdaq and wallstreet, and financial freedom but you nikkas wouldn't listen. Everything has been said under the son ain't nothing new. Explain the growth in U2 whose been doing the same music for 3 decades? explain a host of R&B, Rock, Country artist who stay in their lane for decades and still manage success? Straw man arguments are cheap and easily torn down.

Made one of the most inspirational rap songs "God gave Me style" but no one listened.

Breh u talking to a nikka who go wayyyy back with 50. Don't do this to yourself

A few songs here & there don't mean shyt when you 30+ & far removed from that scene still talking kill kill sell a pack rhymes a majority of the time.

You mentioning other genres like Rap ain't supposed to be the most authentic heartfelt one I.e. Rappers writing they own rhymes. I don't listen to U2 but what does their music topics consist of?

You don't see a problem with a guy like a 50, sheek or Ross rapping about what they are when they ain't experience that shyt in 15+ years?

 

[backbreaker65]

Breh u talking to a nikka who go wayyyy back with 50. Don't do this to yourself

A few songs here & there don't mean shyt when you 30+ & far removed from that scene still talking kill kill sell a pack rhymes a majority of the time.

You mentioning other genres like Rap ain't supposed to be the most authentic heartfelt one I.e. Rappers writing they own rhymes. I don't listen to U2 but what does their music topics consist of?

You don't see a problem with a guy like a 50, sheek or Ross rapping about what they are when they ain't experience that shyt in 15+ years?

The problem you have is the new nikkas are rapping about the same thing, so miss me with the bullshyt. I don't need no nikka teaching me nothing, I'm not here for a lesson. Tell your story and let me vibe to it, I have never heard about the shyt you nikkas complain about until rap came along. You should worry about U2 and other genres, cause rap steals from all of those genres(while making beats and creating hooks).

 

[BK The Great]

Sheek has his handful of substance raps, rappers need to balance it out and make records other people would feel or relate to. can't always rap about guns and shyt, sometimes these guys who don't switch it up sound like fukkin robots.

 

[THEREALBRAND]

Listen to 95% of the content of rap music that's on the radio and in the clubs, it's young shyt. Sex crazed, party drug laden, fast life promoting childish shyt. Naturaly, it feels awkward to see a 40+ year old man partaking in the same activities as 20 year olds musically. Maybe, just maybe, if Sheek Louch and others like him expanded their mental horizons and embraced their ages instead of rapping about senselessly killing 100 nikkas every song and the club, then they'd attract an audience that doesnt like the young shyt and doesnt like to suffer fools and wants to hear another perspective. Rap is only a young man's sport if youre an old nikka trying to placate the youngstas, shyt won't work, you remind them of their dad. People put rap music in an imaginary box, like it HAS to be ignorant and childish and self-destructive, no it doesn't man, not everybody wants that, that's why Kendrick got a million grammy noms and mc such and such got none

That's the reason most rappers have a short shelf life.

Dudes are still trying to make the same music they made in the beginning of their career while their original fan base has grown up and matured, and at the same time they're too old to relate to the youth.

 

[DaHNIC82]

This is what I'm talking about, dumb as statement, short sighted and stupid.

50 tried to do something else but you nikkas clowned him. Fif did rap about nasdaq and wallstreet, and financial freedom but you nikkas wouldn't listen. Everything has been said under the son ain't nothing new. Explain the growth in U2 whose been doing the same music for 3 decades? explain a host of R&B, Rock, Country artist who stay in their lane for decades and still manage success? Straw man arguments are cheap and easily torn down.

Made one of the most inspirational rap songs "God gave Me style" but no one listened.

He came out with God Love My Style, Baltimore Love Thing, When it Rain it Pours, Position of Power, They Burned Me, and others. He tried rapping about other things but folks kept on wanting to hear the GRODT 50

 

[THEREALBRAND]

This is what I'm talking about, dumb as statement, short sighted and stupid.

50 tried to do something else but you nikkas clowned him. Fif did rap about nasdaq and wallstreet, and financial freedom but you nikkas wouldn't listen. Everything has been said under the son ain't nothing new. Explain the growth in U2 whose been doing the same music for 3 decades? explain a host of R&B, Rock, Country artist who stay in their lane for decades and still manage success? Straw man arguments are cheap and easily torn down.

Made one of the most inspirational rap songs "God gave Me style" but no one listened.

I'm going to take it that you've never actually heard a U2 album before. Pretty much every two or three albums they create an entirely new sound. Their stuff from today sounds nothing like their stuff from the 90s, which sound nothing like their stuff from the 80s. You literally couldn't have picked a worse example of a band not changing their music with the times.

 

[Apollo Creed]

People still check for Nas, Big Boi/3 stacks, Raekwon, GFK,etc who were out before The Lox, lol nobody wants to here Sheek Louch in 2015 thats all.

 

[Still Benefited]

Rap fans are the dumbest fans on earth. The first thing that comes out of their mouth is this mythical "his music didn't grow" or "he raps about the same thing" This shyt is stupid and dumb when you compare all other genres of music. Luther song loves songs for 2 decades, EarthWind and Fire made the same song in many different ways. U2 been making the same song for 3 decades. The same goes for most authors of murder novels ect... BB KIng sang the blues with basically the same subject matter in 50s 60s 70s and 80s Y'all need to stop with that dumb argument because it's stupid and short sighted. And fans don't out grown music because another dude comes along and raps about the same shyt, You just want a new messenger.

And when a rapper/singer tries to do something different you don't support and you say stay in your lane.

WHo cares about other genres though,hiphop is a 1 of 1...many rappers have rapped about the same subject matter for 3 decades too,you don't think Too Short,LL Cool J,Cube,Rakim etc still perform?Are we going to pretend every ol Rock band and rnb singer from the 50's and 60's are as relevant as the young acts of today?If we wanna just use the biggest names and pretend we don't see all those washed up acts that people forgot about on Unsung and Behind The Music,i can bring up names like E-40,Jay,Cube,Nas,LL,Face,Short, as artist whos seen success In multiple decades too...Yall just only seem to remember all the old acts who haven't really done anything to warrant that they still be at the forefront of this shyt.

And your assuming growth and trying something different is the ONLY path,which isn't what I was saying....Theres many different paths and its up to the rapper to find out how to continue to connect with fans....One of the best paths is simply consistency with quality which I also named.

You want us to pretend most of these rappers stay consistently great at what they do which is RARELY the case,which is why your U2,Luther,BB King comparison doesn't work....They are not in a genre where the sharpness of their mind,pen and creativity will be responsible for whether or not they succeed,hiphop artist are....I don't remember Luther losing his ability to sing,or BB losing his ability to play....I do remember a lot of old nikkas losing the ability I first saw them possess and was impressed by

And rapping about the same shyt doesn't mean its the same btw.

My only point about growth is that it would seem to be more logical than trying to appeal,and compete with kids to a generation you are not apart of....I don't know what the success rate would be because few rappers have ever tried it,most try to compete with youngins and fail...Or they content never changes rather it started out "grown" or "ignorant"....but lets be clear its not just because the rapper got old