Short clip of Stephanie Mills speaking on the whitewashing of R&B music.

[I Really Mean It]

You will be surprised at how many people don't believe that there is an agenda in place. I've said it time and time and time and time again. This shyt has happened with just about every form of Black music. You notice unless your name is Rihanna or Beyoncé, you don't have much of a machine behind you pushing your shyt if you're a (Black) contemporary r&b artist. But at the same time, you have to give these two bytches props and respect. They are legitimately the only two continuously making noise on a mainstream level.

Happens with every black business, not just music. They won't allow us to own our own shyt. And when we succeed in spite of them, they do everything within their power to undermine us, including trumping up bullshyt charges as we witnessed with Cosby.

 

[brownsugah]

You will be surprised at how many people don't believe that there is an agenda in place. I've said it time and time and time and time again. This shyt has happened with just about every form of Black music. You notice unless your name is Rihanna or Beyoncé, you don't have much of a machine behind you pushing your shyt if you're a (Black) contemporary r&b artist. But at the same time, you have to give these two bytches props and respect. They are legitimately the only two continuously making noise on a mainstream level.

Yeah, I seen in the other thread. Someone tried to tell me that I had no idea of what was going on. Like this is really something that I’ve been saying for a while now as well. It’s obvious that there is an agenda going on in the industry. There are double standards too. Sam Smith is another example of white privilege in regards to “soul” music. And I don’t even think he’s that good tbh.

 

[The M.I.C.]

Yeah, I seen in the other thread. Someone tried to tell me that I had no idea of what was going on. Like this is really something that I’ve been saying for a while now as well. It’s obvious that there is an agenda going on in the industry. There are double standards too. Sam Smith is another example of white privilege in regards to “soul” music. And I don’t even think he’s that good tbh.

Absolutely agree...1000%

 

[Black Magisterialness]

there's blame to go around everywhere, especially with these execs - they got all the real ones out and kept the sellouts and the ones who will play the game (LA REID)

but also black music fans have helped kill it off too - there are black folks out here that have the latest cd's, movies, games for the past decade, and spent a total of $0

can't complain about the type of content we're getting or not getting when nobody is support these people financially.

taylor swift just went platinum in one day, a black artist will NEVER do that again unless it's a country/pop artist

This is slightly misinformed. This is what happened to ALL of music. Taylor Swift was going plat because she's the exception not the rule...same goes for Beyonce, same goes for Kanye. Also, artists get most of their money form tours, endorsements, and sponsorship. All sales used to do was get artists on certain people's radar but its not even necessary. This time last year Yachty got a Target endorsement deal and he hadn't even put out a full-length studio album yet. Views/Streams are the new metric and that costs most people literally nothing.

The bigger problem was the swallowing up of local radio stations, syndication, and the consolidation of talent even though there's more of it than there's ever been. Atlanta, St. Louis, Detroit and NYC SHOULD'NT have the same morning shows....they have different cultures and tastes musically. So when Radio One or iHeart comes in and buys out your local station you can say bye bye to your local artists REALLY getting shine...and IDGAF what anyone says. The internet is the way to break...but the radio is STILL what LEGITIMIZES you in the eyes of pop culture.

With all the music out there, there is no way I should hear the same song more than twice in one day outside of drive time. Period.

 

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[Standing on business]

Like I said in the other thread, if we really cared about traditional R&B, Tanks last 3 albums would've all went triple platinum. We ask for it but don't support it on a large scale when it comes out.

 

[Geek Nasty]

It's true. Dudes talk like Justin Timberlake is some amazing artist then try to shyt on someone like Chris brown. So many brain dead slaves out here

people shyt on Chris Brown for beating the hell out of Rihanna and being a crusty ass addict

 

[Wild self]

there's blame to go around everywhere, especially with these execs - they got all the real ones out and kept the sellouts and the ones who will play the game (LA REID)

but also black music fans have helped kill it off too - there are black folks out here that have the latest cd's, movies, games for the past decade, and spent a total of $0

can't complain about the type of content we're getting or not getting when nobody is support these people financially.

taylor swift just went platinum in one day, a black artist will NEVER do that again unless it's a country/pop artist

The bolded is too true

Black folk want the best, and not pay for it in terms of entertainment.

Add the fact that young blacks are addicted to trap music to the point where their taste is intentionally limited. Old school sounding RnB is played out to black audiences in the mainstream.

 

[Tribal Outkast]

Good music is getting wasted now man.. So much potentially classic stuff. The last Great r&b album that I purchased with my own money was that Babyface and Toni Braxton album. There was so many great songs on there but now that album is forgotten so people won’t care. There has to be a way to get these underground people on... I understand searching for the good r&b but man I shouldn’t have to do that. It’s a weird time in music now and I’m waiting to see what happens to music in the next 5 to 10 years.

 

[ridedolo]

people shyt on Chris Brown for beating the hell out of Rihanna and being a crusty ass addict

That has nothing to do with his music

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

She right butttttt also the blame goes to these radio DJs and even the black executives in a lot of these positions who could make a change but money talks...kenny lattimore and Brian McKnight dropped some nice music and even jodeci a few years ago but it's 2017 and its a whole new demographics up in those label positions..

Same goes for TV


Nas was right Kill the DJ

But Stephanie you old artist is to blame as well, because ice cube was 100% right when he did a interview i believe it was on sway or big boy when they ask him why u don't hear from old R&B artist music or even samples in music today and he said " the main thing old artist R&B and old school rappers was getting a good amount of cash for a sample or duets in the 90s and early 00s but they started wanting 3 times as much from even new artist today and these new kids was like fukk that and fukk you " that's why we have division and the reason u don't have the old school artist names out here

These black executives don't have juice like that...figureheads in a lot of cases We never get to see the ACTUAL bosses so we have a tendency to think it ends with whomever we see in a magazine or some shyt but the shyt is wayyy deeper

 

[brownsugah]

there's blame to go around everywhere, especially with these execs - they got all the real ones out and kept the sellouts and the ones who will play the game (LA REID)

but also black music fans have helped kill it off too - there are black folks out here that have the latest cd's, movies, games for the past decade, and spent a total of $0

can't complain about the type of content we're getting or not getting when nobody is support these people financially.

taylor swift just went platinum in one day, a black artist will NEVER do that again unless it's a country/pop artist

Yep. I said something along those lines in the other thread too. Most of us rather bootleg our media instead of actually purchasing it and supporting our black artists.

 

[I Really Mean It]

It's true. Dudes talk like Justin Timberlake is some amazing artist then try to shyt on someone like Chris brown. So many brain dead slaves out here

Same dude that damn near ruined Janet Jackson's career and is going to play during the upcoming Super Bowl's half-time show despite them shytting on Kaep.

 

[The M.I.C.]

Yep. I said something along those lines in the other thread too. Most of us rather bootleg our media instead of actually purchasing it and supporting our black artists.

Doesn't really matter tbh.

Artists don't cake much off record sales like that anymore unless you got star power and are a guaranteed bet to make a return on investment in the record labels eyes that's where you get great contracts. (I.E. Taylor Swift, Jay Z, Beyonce, etc..)

Touring and appearances is where the money bags are and people do support their artists by coming out.

 

[TheDarkCloud]

Good music is getting wasted now man.. So much potentially classic stuff. The last Great r&b album that I purchased with my own money was that Babyface and Toni Braxton album. There was so many great songs on there but now that album is forgotten so people won’t care. There has to be a way to get these underground people on... I understand searching for the good r&b but man I shouldn’t have to do that. It’s a weird time in music now and I’m waiting to see what happens to music in the next 5 to 10 years.

This is very true. But it seems like a lot of underground artists don't wanna get on because of the fukkshyt. So they'd rather be their own artist, independent and doing things on their own.

I'm waiting for somebody like FKA Twigs to get her mainstream push. But I don't think they really want it. So we stuck between a rock and a hard place.