Should America go to a 4 day work week?

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The closer we can get to the Nordic European nations the better. They actually support the working class over there.

These countries have free Healthcare, free college, actual welfare, 4 day work weeks etc. THOSE are the true best countries in the world. America is SO trash compared to them. Americans don't realize just how terrible this place is.
Are you willing to be taxed for those benefits though? From what I remember, taxation in Danemark is around 40-50%
 

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is this a joke???? :ohhh:

Nope not at all. It will be better for the environment and our long term prospects of survival. The global economy basically needs to scale down until we get this climate crisis (and myriad number of other environmental issues) under control. This infinite growth concept is what's destroying our world and will inevitably result in collapse.

1-2 day work weeks are a pipe dream but it would lead to overall human happiness and help stabilize things. The amount of work we do now is completely unnecessary and absurd.
 

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People don’t take into consideration the history of labor in America which is :comeon:
…Demonic.

It really can be broken down to three things: Colonial Expansion
Puritanical Work Ethic
Enslavement


Now which of those three things even sounds good?:gucci:

Skipping ahead a few hundred years

People don’t consider how we got here. The 5 day 40 work week is already a compromise between businesses and workers that’s really not that old at all. Prior to it there were no limitations on how many hours or days you had to work to keep your job. People would get Sunday’s off because in the land of religious freedom it was expected everyone was Christian (and would revolt if they customs weren’t respected). 5d/40hr really never was intended to benefit the worker.

Lastly businesses collectively have no issue standardizing what surrounds certain roles, traditionally reserved for the bottom rung of society, For everybody. Meaning America that had a true to life slave class isn’t getting rid of the roles slaves played, instead they’ll broaden who can fill those roles. This is how we get tipping and other dumb sht that only Americans do.

A transcription of what those things mean is You have to be in someone else business at all times
You have to be work at all times
You have to work for someone at all times no matter what is being asked of you.

Does any of that sound self appointed? Y’all choose to live this way? :stopitslime:

No idea what’s happening in the future but there is a decent chance we can reframe American working traditions cuz they really don’t make sense.
 

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Nope not at all. It will be better for the environment and our long term prospects of survival.
I agree but so will the shift to work from home.

The global economy basically needs to scale down until we get this climate crisis (and myriad number of other environmental issues) under control.
Bro, when you say until what is your perception of time with that word?
Do you know how long it took the planet to get this bad?
You know very well that it's easy to make a mess but much harder to clean it up.

Fixing the planet is something where the word until should never be used bro.

This infinite growth concept is what's destroying our world and will inevitably result in collapse.
This would be better and more realistically addressed by having employees own a stake of the company and reforming the stock market, which is based off of nothing.
 

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I think we could be in a pivotal moment with people refusing to work and entire staffs quitting at fast food restaurants.

Americans have to go hard and protest all this shyt.
 

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I agree but so will the shift to work from home.


Bro, when you say until what is your perception of time with that word?
Do you know how long it took the planet to get this bad?
You know very well that it's easy to make a mess but much harder to clean it up.

Fixing the planet is something where the word until should never be used bro.


This would be better and more realistically addressed by having employees own a stake of the company and reforming the stock market, which is based off of nothing.

It really didn't take all that long for earth to get this bad, relative to human timescales. We existed on this planet for hundreds of thousands of years before we started this relentless campaign to plunder natural resources.

I don't how long it would take for us to curtail global warming to something manageable. Earth is pretty resilient so I can imagine it wouldn't take too long if we just let things be.

I agree that employees owning a stake in their companies stock and reforming the stock market would be beneficial. I just fail to see how it would mitigate global warming in a timeframe relevant to averting the worse effects.
 
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Research even supports that companies that work 4 days a week get more production out of their employees

Employees in Iceland starting working 4 days a week. It didn't hurt productivity, researchers say.

American companies care about metrics and numbers.........



Right up until it benefits employees and it's something employees actually want. If you told a company that raising pay, 4 day work weeks, extra PTO and WFH would make the company $$$$.....they'd be like :scust:.....they'd rather make less money and stick to what makes employees unhappy.

My thinking is that companies want a certain amount of turnover. The longer people get rooted in their jobs, the more specialized knowledge the gain and the tougher it is to replace them when they retire. You end up with a lot of folks that know everything on a particular subject but haven't crosstrained others.

Most firms want a decent employee turnover and then press really hard on middle management to fill in the gaps for the new hires.
 
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