Should America intervene in Syria?

[Shogun]

Sound off HL.

 

[cheek100]

russia

 

[88m3]

Yes, their people have been getting murdered since I was on vacation around two years ago now...

 

[Shogun]

Yes, their people have been getting murdered since I was on vacation around two years ago now...

yeah its sad, but why should the US be responsible? The second we do everyone will just be like "look at the evil imperialists at it again"

 

[Wargames]

you think that we aren't already .

Right now that place is a proxy war between American and Russian business/political interest. Its just both parties know from experience not to admit we're in conflict because it would be bad for business.

If tomorrow some a$$hole figured out how to make a dollar admitting that truth. We would be talking about "how the cold war is back" the very next day

 

[Schmoove]

There are innocent men, women and children over there dying. If that means we have to go over there to save the day, so be it.

If I were in their shoes, I'd be on my knees begging to God for someone to come & save me. Don't act like you wouldn't.

 

[DPresidential]

yeah its sad, but why should the US be responsible? The second we do everyone will just be like "look at the evil imperialists at it again"

This is true..but at the end of the day... the world has its opinion on the US concreted. In Syria, innocent lives are being wiped off the face of the Earth...

I believe it requires some intervention.

And yes, all over the world has tyrants murdering their own people...that shyt doesn't sit right with me either. Humanity is humanity, divided by water or not...

 

[Shogun]

This is true..but at the end of the day... the world has its opinion on the US concreted. In Syria, innocent lives are being wiped off the face of the Earth...

I believe it requires some intervention.

And yes, all over the world has tyrants murdering their own people...that shyt doesn't sit right with me either. Humanity is humanity, divided by water or not...

I agree, but if we intervene innocent lives are still going to be lost. they'll just be on our hands

 

[Tres Leches]

at first I said no but damn this war has gone on far too long

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

the ends justify the means

 

[rapbeats]

Sound off HL.

here's my take.

its CIVIL WAR. did the world intervene when America had their North vs SOUTH? not really.

well at least not to our basic knowledge.

so that says to me. just because some country is going thru a rough patch of civil war in 2013, doesnt mean you should go messsing with them. let them sort it out.

and think of it like this. some will say but but but they have chemical weapons and more powerful weapons. true. SO... What... thats just the days we live in. things are different. the PEOPLE also have an advantage called the internet and cell phones. the people can be more organized now then they ever could back in civil war times. so it goes both ways.

now the truth of the matter is other countries did stick their nose in the american civil war. we just rarely talk about it. so again if it can happen for us, we should be able to help a side out in 2013. no difference.

Though often overlooked, more than 50,000 British citizens served in various capacities in the American Civil War. Historian Amanda Foreman looked at their personal writings and tells the story of the war and Britain’s involvement in it in her latest book, A World on Fire, recently named one of the New York Times’ 100 Notable Books of 2011....

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...tions-of-Brits-in-the-American-Civil-War.html

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

here's my take.

its CIVIL WAR. did the world intervene when America had their North vs SOUTH? not really.

well at least not to our basic knowledge.

so that says to me. just because some country is going thru a rough patch of civil war in 2013, doesnt mean you should go messsing with them. let them sort it out.

and think of it like this. some will say but but but they have chemical weapons and more powerful weapons. true. SO... What... thats just the days we live in. things are different. the PEOPLE also have an advantage called the internet and cell phones. the people can be more organized now then they ever could back in civil war times. so it goes both ways.

now the truth of the matter is other countries did stick their nose in the american civil war. we just rarely talk about it. so again if it can happen for us, we should be able to help a side out in 2013. no difference.

you're kinda ignorant huh?

 

[rapbeats]

you're kinda ignorant huh?

UHH OK.

France in the American Civil War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_in_the_American_Civil_War

The French Empire remained officially neutral throughout the American Civil War and never recognized theConfederate States of America. However, several major industries in France and Emperor Napoleon III had economic interests or territorial ambitions which favored dealings with the Confederacy. At the same time, other French political leaders, such as Foreign Minister Edouard Thouvenel, favored the United States.
Between 1861 and 1865, the Union blockade cut off most cotton supplies to French textile mills, causing the "famine du coton" (cotton famine). Mills in Alsace, Nord-Pas-de-Calais and Normandy saw prices of cotton double by 1862 and were forced to lay off many workers.

As a result, many French industrialists and politicians were rather favorable to a quick Southern victory. Emperor Napoléon III was also interested in Central America (trade and plans of a transoceanic canal) and wanted to create a new empire in Mexico, where his troops landed in December 1861. A Confederate victory would have likely made this plan easier.

Further information: French intervention in Mexico
William L. Dayton, who was appointed minister to France by President Lincoln, met the French Foreign Minister, Edouard Thouvenel, who was pro-Union and was influential in dampening Napoleon’s initial inclination towards diplomatic recognition of Confederate independence. However, Thouvenel resigned from office in 1862. The Southern delegate in Paris, John Slidell, made offers to Napoléon III : in exchange for a recognition of the Confederate States and naval help sent in New Orleans to break the blockade, the Confederacy would sell raw cotton to France.[1] Count Walewski and Eugène Rouher agreed with him, but British disapproval and, especially, the first Union military victories led French diplomacy to refuse this plan. In 1864, Napoléon III sent his own dentist and confidant, the Philadelphian Thomas W. Evans, as an unofficial diplomat to Lincoln and U. S. Secretary of State William H. Seward. Evans convinced the Emperor that Southern defeat was impending.

In keeping with its official neutrality, the French government blocked the sale of the ironclad CSS Stonewall prior to delivery to the Confederacy in February 1864 and resold this ship to the Royal Danish Navy as the Stærkodder. The ship left Bordeaux on its shakedown cruise with a Danish crew in June 1864. However, the Danish refused to accept the ship due to price disagreements with the shipbuilder L'Arman.[2] L'Arman subsequently secretly resold the ship by January 1865 to the Confederacy while still at sea.

France regained normal diplomatic relations with the United States in 1866, when Napoléon III decided to withdraw his troops from Mexico.

 

[Serious]

where's the outcry for the darfur genocide.....

 

[MVike28]

'spiracy theorists still for Assad