Should black people in the hood

[poundedyam]

Who commited all those fukkries in the 70s/80s/90s be held accountable or were they setup to fail?
Im talking about the drug selling,the robberies the murders etc.

Only asking because im on the tellemblancosentya ig page and seeing all the guys in jail doing football numbers got me thinking.

I remember a fella called kendu from nyc got posted on here and hes currently serving something stupid like 200 years.
I also remember a thread about pappy mason got posted here and two comments that stuck with me which went something like "they were setup by the government to fail because they purposly pushed crack in these black areas and i feel sorry for them" which was kinda true.

So my question is should these gang bangers who are doing football numbers many of whom made a mistake be held accountable or should the government be held more accountable. And do you feel sorry for these criminals.

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

Some people are victims of their environments/government and some people are just....it really depends on them as individuals. Imo

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

It’s always somebody fault. Nikkas went from blaming the white man to blaming immigration. It’s never our fault.

shyts crazy....as a man no matter what happened to me I know that I am at majority fault.

I see a million threads condemning the white man and illegal immigrants but I rarely see any threads condemning us as a group and our failures.

These people really do believe in white supremacy. If u think they held you down for so long and only through their help and sympathy that you gain level footing then what’s that saying about us and whites. If they are the cause of our problems and the solution, what is that saying about us. Nikkas ain’t got no fukking pride that’s the problem.

I don’t believe in white supremacy, I think in 2019 black people have all the tools to succeed in America. It may be harder for some but then again life hard for the majority of people on Earth.

 

[Kornball The Conqueror]

It’s always somebody fault. Nikkas went from blaming the white man to blaming immigration. It’s never our fault.

shyts crazy....as a man no matter what happened to me I know that I am at majority fault.

I see a million threads condemning the white man and illegal immigrants but I rarely see any threads condemning us as a group and our failures.

To be fair the whole point of this section is escapism.

 

[Worthless Loser]

I see a million threads condemning the white man and illegal immigrants but I rarely see any threads condemning us as a group and our failures.

Similar to white victimization and white fragility, black victimization and black fragility are real things. The difference is that white fragility and white victimization is rooted in white privilege while black fragility and black victimization are the results of hundreds of years of racism.

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

Similar to white victimization and white fragility, black victimization and black fragility are real things. The difference is that white fragility and white victimization is rooted in white privilege while black fragility and black victimization are the results of hundreds of years of racism.

Yes that is true.


How do u combat that tho?

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

To be fair the whole point of this section is escapism.

It is but it still influencing 100s if not 1000s of black men looking for a why....

People like Tariq prays on the people looking for a why.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

Did anyone force us to buy and do the drugs? No.

Is anyone forcing whites to buy and do the drugs? No.

The difference is, they have people in power positions who will allow them to use tax dollars on rehab, which gives them a chance to change their lives around. We weren't given that opportunity back then. They also have enough people willing to hire them with a criminal record.

I think there is a mentality in the hood that they will never have a better life, but people tend to continue in the socioeconomic status in which they were raised. Do any other groups have a high record of people breaking the cycle of poverty?

Are whites in the midwest, rust belt, and appalachia magically creating jobs, and pulling themselves up by their bootstraps? Are white men being profiled, and cars searched for heroin, meth, and mass shootings?

Even when we do everything the right way, there is still a system in place trying to make everything we do more difficult. A black doctor doesn't experience less racism just because he has money, snd is successful.

 

[Worthless Loser]

Yes that is true.


How do u combat that tho?

Through education (not talking about going to college, but rather education from someone who is educated whether through college or through experience) and self-accountability. Because a lot of the black fragility and victimization has an underlying bitterness and hate attached to it which creates irrationality in a lot of people.

 

[AlainLocke]

No matter the systemic circumstances you face, you are responsible for your own actions and how you conduct yourself. Very few Black people have decided to live a criminal lifestyle. The population of Black criminals is low. Most Black people are law abiding citizens despite their circumstances.
So if you sold crack, join a gang, was a shooter, was a jacker, you decided that was gonna be your response to your position in the system.

Everybody feels pressure from mechanisms outside of their control, mechanisms that is beyond their understanding.

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

Through education (not talking about going to college, but rather education from someone who is educated whether through college or through experience) and self-accountability. Because a lot of the black fragility and victimization has an underlying bitterness and hate attached to it which creates irrationality in a lot of people.

Well spoken.


I think some of the people who we get education from (the Tariqs and Yvette’s) are decent and speak good sense on most topics. But their problems is I feel their number 1 goal is to increase their own profile and another problem I see is they don’t speak enough about self-accoutablity.

 

[AlainLocke]

Through education (not talking about going to college, but rather education from someone who is educated whether through college or through experience) and self-accountability. Because a lot of the black fragility and victimization has an underlying bitterness and hate attached to it which creates irrationality in a lot of people.

Education has nothing to do with it. Black people aren't fragile and the hate and bitterness and the behaviors that come out of that is reasonable.
People know when they are not wanted. Black parents tell their let their Black kids know what kind of world they just entered from the day they go to elementary school. Most of the things Black Americans do in this world is to be desirable, (even down to the hairstyles) and to achieve a level of normality so we can have access to basic things, like a good paying job and suitable place to live.

Most Black Americans know this about their condition and ignore it or deny it because there's really nothing you can do on an individual level about it. Nobody can tell you anything because they don't know either. It doesn't matter what you think, how you talk, how many times you pray, how many degrees you get, what neighborhood you live in, how you dress, how you wear your hair - you are gonna deal with this burden and there is no proper way to deal with it.

 

[010101]

it's the business of entrapment

everything they lock folks up for the are guilty of on higher levels

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[Creflo ½ Dollar]

Education has nothing to do with it. Black people aren't fragile and the hate and bitterness and the behaviors that come out of that is reasonable.
People know when they are not wanted. Black parents tell their let their Black kids know what kind of world they just entered from the day they go to elementary school. Most of the things Black Americans do in this world is to be desirable, (even down to the hairstyles) and to achieve a level of normality so we can have access to basic things, like a good paying job and suitable place to live.

Most Black Americans know this about their condition and ignore it or deny it because there's really nothing you can do on an individual level about it. Nobody can tell you anything because they don't know either. It doesn't matter what you think, how you talk, how many times you pray, how many degrees you get, what neighborhood you live in, how you dress, how you wear your hair - you are gonna deal with this burden and there is no proper way to deal with it.

Thats a pretty defeatist attitude and viewpoint.

Compared to the rest of the world the black struggle in today’s America is a walk in the park. Get real. We got it pretty damn good. I remember when I was a kid and used to complain all the time my mom always told me to be grateful because some people don’t even have the little we do have.

 

[poundedyam]

Me personally im a big believer in self accountability.
Whilst i do think the government has put up hurdle after hurdle to hold the black man down,for the greater good of black people some people unfortunately have to get left behind.
Be it in the past or in jail.
Its sad but its the reality.
All skinfolk aint kinfolk.