Should Educated/Wealthy Blacks do More to Help The Community

[marcuz]

So what your saying is your desire to stunt keeps you from living in these neighborhoods? Because outside of flaunting how exactly would the people around you know that you got a promotion/a better job, or how would they know that you have things to clean out when youre not home. The way you think is no different then people who think "i aint going to no africa....them nikkas over there still living in huts and shyt.."

I made over 100k last year and still stay in the hood, nobody broke into my house, nobody tried to rob me, none of that..............

ur skewed take on reality does nothing more then help you rationalize why its ok for you not to do your part in these communities.

i live in a moderately decent neighborhood in south central, los angeles. the racial mockup is around 77% black, miss me with that bullshyt. i didn't say anything about stunting, and you don't have to "stunt" to have your shyt broken into.

in another area of south central, a rental property was broken into several times in one year. turned out one of the neighbors was actually committing those crimes. later found out EVERY house on that street had been broken into at least once. on my street, a handful of houses were robbed in 2012. one of which involved a woman being tied up at gun point. these people weren't "stunting," just trying to live their life.

why should people have to subjugate themselves to crime just to keep it black? and if someone did want to stunt, have a nice car, buy nice things for his/her home. they shouldn't have to worry about their community meaning to do them harm.

like i said, y'all always examine one side and ignore the other. that racial unity sound all well and good until some degenerate criminals try to take from you.

 

[Sierra Mist]

This is why I don't have you on ignore. For every 20 suspect ass post you type, you always drop at least 1 gem. :lolhov::lolhov::lolhov: :lolhov::lolhov::lolhov:

I drop millions of gems. You guys would rather just fight me on here for whatever reason. That's why I fell back from the "serious" posts.

 

[flea]

I drop millions of gems. You guys would rather just fight me on here for whatever reason. That's why I fell back from the "serious" posts.

i'd wish u fall back on life and fukking kill yourself already

 

[Sierra Mist]

Knew it wouldn't be long until this lame quoted me. I guess he needs to go back to begging for my attention after getting sonned in 2 threads yesterday.

 

[flea]

Knew it wouldn't be long until this lame quoted me. I guess he needs to go back to begging for my attention after getting sonned in 2 threads yesterday.

u get sonned in EVERY thread though :vince:

 

[Sierra Mist]

What's the point of quoting someone who can't read your posts?

 

[MoneyTron]

An unsolvable question.

What is help? Where should it go? What is more? What is being done currently? Is "help" quantifiable?

I'm not going to get into the socio-economics of this because its an endless spiral. There's but so much people can do to help another before you reach a tipping point where the giving reaches diminishing returns. Where is that point though?

I say just do what you feel is right.

I have several multi-millionaires in my family and all of their opinions are different on how much, what, and where money should go to help the less fortunate.

 

[marcuz]

What lesson? The kids don't have decent schools, books, teachers, or curriculums that even tell them what they should learn. How does a library or the Internet help if the kids don't even know how to use them? Furthermore kids need more than just the Internet to grow into well rounded adults. And you'd be surprised how many people don't have access to the Internet.

Communities fukked, opportunities scarce, schools fukked, but at least we got the Internet


How do you turn an adult into a good role model?

They already grew up through the bad influences. They are already undereducated. They have already made plenty of mistakes in their lives, including having kids they couldn't care for. But somehow we are gonna turn these people into model citizens and great parents.

and no we can't actually go help them that would be giving handouts. We just need to call them stupid and lazy till they get their shyt together

you brought up everything except the poor parenting many of these children receive. if they came from a two parent household that held value in education and hard work ethics. it wouldn't matter how bad the schools were, they'd still try to excel.

but instead, we'll pretend like being smart isn't frowned upon in our community. like it's just the teachers and schools fault.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

you brought up everything except the poor parenting many of these children receive. if they came from a two parent household that held value in education and hard work ethics. it wouldn't matter how bad the schools were, they'd still try to excel.

but instead, we'll pretend like being smart isn't frowned upon in our community. like it's just the teachers and schools fault.

Poor parenting is a problem. But how can you expect uneducated parents to educate their kids?

Even if the kids try to excel they still find themselves way behind their non-poor counterparts because the schools suck. There are plenty of kids who go to school everyday and try very hard just to make to college and find out they can't cut it.

And you can stop with this line about black people frowning upon the educated. White people call each other nerds everyday B. Most white people tv is nothing but fukkary you ever watched MTV?

 

[marcuz]

Poor parenting is a problem. But how can you expect uneducated parents to educate their kids?

Even if the kids try to excel they still find themselves way behind their non-poor counterparts because the schools suck. There are plenty of kids who go to school everyday and try very hard just to make to college and find out they can't cut it.

And you can stop with this line about black people frowning upon the educated. White people call each other nerds everyday B. Most white people tv is nothing but fukkary you ever watched MTV?

man, miss me with what white people do; we aren't in the white community. a bad boy in their community is a dude that rides a bike or has a tattoo. a bad boy in our community is a nikka that's possibly killed several people.

and it's not the schools job to parent kids. even if some tried to correct behavioral issues, it wont stick when they still go home to the same toxic environment. can't believe you'll say some retarded shyt like "But how can you expect uneducated parents to educate their kids"

we're so used to being coddled, we now expect other people to properly parent our children.

 

[MoneyTron]

man, miss me with what white people do; we aren't in the white community. a bad boy in their community is a dude that rides a bike or has a tattoo. a bad boy in our community is a nikka that's possibly killed several people.

and it's not the schools job to parent kids. even if some tried to correct behavioral issues, it wont stick when they still go home to the same toxic environment. can't believe you'll say some retarded shyt like "But how can you expect uneducated parents to educate their kids"

we're so used to being coddled, we now expect other people to properly parent our children.

Those bad kids are real bad. My GF is a teacher in a pretty low income area. You know that movie "Snow on tha Bluff"? Yeah she works in the Bluff.

The shyt she tells me about these kids is mind boggling sometimes. The parents just aren't making good decisions much of the time. Single moms with 5+ kids and no heat in the house, no internet, no hot water. Don't make no damn sense. The kids' home situations are just fukked up and there's no easy way to fix it. They get so frustrated and disenchanted with life at home then bring it to the classroom. Just bad all around.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

man, miss me with what white people do; we aren't in the white community. a bad boy in their community is a dude that rides a bike or has a tattoo. a bad boy in our community is a nikka that's possibly killed several people.

and it's not the schools job to parent kids. even if some tried to correct behavioral issues, it wont stick when they still go home to the same toxic environment. can't believe you'll say some retarded shyt like "But how can you expect uneducated parents to educate their kids"

we're so used to being coddled, we now expect other people to properly parent our children.

You are making the mistake of equating black with poor. In a poor neighborhood the bad boy killed several people regardless of his race. In a non-poor black neighborhood the bad boy rides a bike and has a tattoo. People commit crimes because they are hungry not because they are black

You didn't answer the question. How can an uneducated person educate someone else?

You are correct it's not up to the schools to parent kids. But if we have these kids that we know are coming from fukked up homes and uneducated parents. Shouldn't we try to give them more in schooling and mentorship, not less?

It's not about being coddled or other people taking care of our kids. The thread is about black people helping out in the communty. You're too stuck on pointing the finger trying to blame people. I'm talking about things that will help our community. Calling people lazy and stupid will change absolutely nothing. These people grew into shytty parents because they were born to shytty parents, and the cycle will continue unless we find a way to break through to the kids.

 

[marcuz]

You are making the mistake of equating black with poor. In a poor neighborhood the bad boy killed several people regardless of his race. In a non-poor black neighborhood the bad boy rides a bike and has a tattoo. People commit crimes because they are hungry not because they are black

hungry for food? or hungry for material items they can't afford otherwise?

You didn't answer the question. How can an uneducated person educate someone else?

hell, that is the paradox isn't it? how can an uneducated welfare queen with 5 kids instill the importance of education and hardwork in her offspring. my answer, they can't. so cut off their welfare services and let them starve in the streets. because they literally have to die off to break the cycle.

You are correct it's not up to the schools to parent kids. But if we have these kids that we know are coming from fukked up homes and uneducated parents. Shouldn't we try to give them more in schooling and mentorship, not less?

what good would more schooling do to kids who hold no value in education? a lot of these kids are functioning retards, hate to say it. and mentorships? same road as before, what good is mentoring going to do when they still go home to see momma laid up with big pookie smoking weed while playing xbox?

It's not about being coddled or other people taking care of our kids. The thread is about black people helping out in the communty. You're too stuck on pointing the finger trying to blame people. I'm talking about things that will help our community. Calling people lazy and stupid will change absolutely nothing. These people grew into shytty parents because they were born to shytty parents, and the cycle will continue unless we find a way to break through to the kids.

only way to break the cycle is to end social programs that subsidize their lifestyle. and it has to be acknowledged why many in the black community don't reach back to the less fortunate. it's not because they're uppity c00ns, it's because they've been rejected by those you believe they should help.

maybe if the have nots came from a more humble angle, it would be possible. but contrary to popular belief, many hoodlums stick their nose up at the educated blacks.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

man, miss me with what white people do; we aren't in the white community. a bad boy in their community is a dude that rides a bike or has a tattoo. a bad boy in our community is a nikka that's possibly killed several people.

and it's not the schools job to parent kids. even if some tried to correct behavioral issues, it wont stick when they still go home to the same toxic environment. can't believe you'll say some retarded shyt like "But how can you expect uneducated parents to educate their kids"

we're so used to being coddled, we now expect other people to properly parent our children.

thats real shyt right there, people not understanding that even in the most rural fukked up areas of Appalachia and shyt like that don't shun the educational system or murder at the rates that we do.

If you look at many of the successful areas of the country its revolving doors of money going through those places. One cat makes a program that helps 10 kids, they in turn invest in the program 15 years down the road, help 50 kids and so on and so forth.

We don't do these things in the black community, and the ones that are trying just plain ole don't have the funds. Not to mention the short end of the grants/loans stick from the states and feds.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

hungry for food? or hungry for material items they can't afford otherwise?

Both

hell, that is the paradox isn't it? how can an uneducated welfare queen with 5 kids instill the importance of education and hardwork in her offspring. my answer, they can't. so cut off their welfare services and let them starve in the streets. because they literally have to die off to break the cycle.

Problem is, they wouldn't starve they'd just make their way to your quiet suburban home and take your food.

what good would more schooling do to kids who hold no value in education? a lot of these kids are functioning retards, hate to say it. and mentorships? same road as before, what good is mentoring going to do when they still go home to see momma laid up with big pookie smoking weed while playing xbox?

You couldn't be further from the truth here. The school and mentorship programs will give them value in education. Where do you think they get the idea of school not being valuable from? It's because their schooling ISN'T valuable. These kids are just a smart as anyone else they just don't have proper educations. I run a youth empowerment program and it helps them profusely. I've had kids turn their lives around, I've had kids that called me when things weren't going good at home or when they were thinking about doing the wrong thing. And just an adult being there to listen is all they needed to keep it together. The thing these kids lack most is hope, if we can give them that they are much better off.

only way to break the cycle is to end social programs that subsidize their lifestyle. and it has to be acknowledged why many in the black community don't reach back to the less fortunate. it's not because they're uppity c00ns, it's because they've been rejected by those you believe they should help.

Not true at all. Poor people always have and always will exist regardless of social programs. And furthermore poor black people are the least users of social programs in America and it has been proven that social programs help to move people from poverty.

maybe if the have nots came from a more humble angle, it would be possible. but contrary to popular belief, many hoodlums stick their nose up at the educated blacks.

And many educated blacks such as yourself go out of their way to stick their nose up at the hoodlums. Both are part of the problem. This happens in all communities the difference is other communities don't let it turn them against each other.