Should Men Be Allowed "Legal Abortion"?

[wickedsm]

A what if conversation is why I responded. I've been married for 7 years so I'm not really worried about any kind of abortion either way. Just found the topic interesting.

Thanks for the good back and forth.
I think it's good for us married folks to add to these conversations.

 

[Raava]

People are being deliberately obtuse. Most of us men here don't have children nor do we intend to abandon our offspring. Most of us abhor the behaviour of these dunces (both male and female) because it's a huge burden on us both financially and in regards to future social impact. I don't defend deadbeats, but I do not coddle birds either.

Now, let us be consistent. If our approach to dealing with those irresponsible or unlucky enough to go through unwanted pregnancies is to force them to deal with the full consequences of their actions, then both must carry the full brunt. If consent is to be understood as acceptance of parental responsibility, abortion stops being an option (apart from the usual special cases). Both are dunces: one does not get to pick and choose when it's convenient to opt out.

The full actual brunt is not shared by both parties in a pregnancy and that is why things are the way they are. I agree with both parties being held responsible. But men have the least amount of risk and the easiest cheapest way to prevent it. They don't have to take hormone altering costly drugs, they don't have to stick anything in them. They aren't carrying the child to full term, their body isn't changing, they wouldn't have to go through the risk of abortion or pregnancy. They have no risk in that except financially and possible jail time but a mother has those same risk plus others.

It's easy for men to say just have an abortion or make her have an abortion I don't want the baby it's not fair. It's easy to say just outlaw abortion to make it even. All this being said, yes this should be even more reason for women in be careful. That is very true. But it's still not even. The brunt of pregnancy will never be even. It won't be even until men can have babies. I bet abortion laws will be revamped with a quickness.

 

[Adidacs]

time to cop that swedish citizenship and spread my seed like genghis khan

 

[True Blue Moon]

Thanks for the good back and forth.
I think it's good for us married folks to add to these conversations.

Thank you too, and I agree. How long have you been married?

 

[Absalom's Thought]

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[wickedsm]

Thank you too, and I agree. How long have you been married?

Since the flood lol. Almost 16 years

 

[True Blue Moon]

Since the flood lol. Almost 16 years

Lol, that's what's up. 7 snuck up on me, so I know 16 is surreal.

 

[Mac Casper]

You think posting this dumb ass chart makes you smart?

Equality would be equal choice AND consequence.

You're a dumbass . . a complete dumbass. Somebody should be scraping your brains off the bottom of Timberlands to prevent an idiot like you from contributing to the gene pool

 

[Raava]

Who cares? We should feel no sympathy for men in such situations, but we must do everything to alleviate the woman's self-inflicted plight? I said consistency. When deadbeats come up with excuses are they not told they should have thought about the consequences. Same applies here: no sympathy.

Most benefits women receive are for the child and because she is the primary caregiver once the baby is going to be born. There is no government assistance for abortion. When dead beats come up with excuses yes because there is a child here. The mother is baring the consequences she is caring for the child. She carried the child. The man on the only on who can walk away Scott free until he is caught. You (general term) can't control the woman's body since she is the one who has to carry the child that's why she gets the most say. So control your penis. That's how you opt out.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You're a dumbass . . a complete dumbass. Somebody should be scraping your brains off the bottom of Timberlands to prevent an idiot like you from contributing to the gene pool

Argue like Donald Trump brehs

 

[Mac Casper]

Argue like Donald Trump brehs

That made me laugh tho

 

[richaveli83]

I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand it's good so that a ratchet female can't use a baby/pregnancy to "trap" a man. The bad that I can see is it will further the b*stard child problem in the black community. If the father didn't want to be a father and opted out legally and the mother had the baby that's even more black children being raised in a single mother ran household.

 

[Cat piss martini]

I'm 100% behind making dna testing
mandatory at birth but that shyt aint
gonna work over here......no way.

her: you need a condom
him: baby weve danced at the club 3 weeks straight.
her: I dont wanna be no baby mama.
him: i loved you the 1st day i saw you.
her: foreal.
him: i love you more than i love my mama.

* she's 3 months late *

her: baby youre about to be a daddy
him: I'm opting out
her: but you said.
him: i already got 5 kids i'm paying child support on
her: so my baby aint good enough.
him: i had them before the bill passed
her: so youre gonna just leave us.
him: I'm gonna move in with my brother.
her: nikka you aint shyt.
him: you can keep the formen grill....i'm taking the xbox

 

[Absalom's Thought]

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[wickedsm]

I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand it's good so that a ratchet female can't use a baby/pregnancy to "trap" a man. The bad that I can see is it will further the b*stard child problem in the black community. If the father didn't want to be a father and opted out legally and the mother had the baby that's even more black children being raised in a single mother ran household.

on another note.
i know theres guys that are scumbags out there, but theres also a great majority of men who arent.
[maybe theyre not good boyfriends or husbands but that doesnt neccessarily mean they will be shyt dads]

how could a[non scumbag] man feel comfortable knowing for a fact that he has a flesh and blood child walking around someplace ?
maybe right across town?
what about your "unwanted pregnancy baby" meeting up with your "wanted pregnancy" baby?
your parents not being able to enjoy and love their grandchildren?

even here on the coli weve seen guys who werent happy about a pregnancy but completely changed their mind once they saw the beautiful little thing?
or had a baby with a chick they never ever ever would have chose but they still love their kid?
what if you changed your mind at week 34, after youve had some time to digest and get used to it?

i mean it seems like a pretty permanent solution, very much like abortion, that you just cant take back.

maybe i dont get it, because im a mom and always wanted to be a mom and i cant even imagine the thought of signing them away.

thoughts.