Should Men Be Allowed "Legal Abortion"?

Mfalme_Perez

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first of all i dont believe that the majority of dudes who would actually sign away their parental rights are just gonna be FOTY all of a sudden and support their child simply out of the goodness of their heart.
but here you go..

sure right. supposedly give checks and think the woman has to do anything for you in regards to that other than just cash your check.
you have NO rights. you cant even complain when the woman takes your check and does anything she wants with it.
she could do her hair and nails, she could spend it on her new man

matter of fact her new man is free to legally adopt your child.
change "your baby's" name to his

on top of that
she doesnt ever have to allow or encourage any type of relationship for you with your child.
you know why? legally youre not the childs parent.

god forbid the mother is abusive or jailed or drug dependent.
you cant get custody and you wont even be considered for custody
because legally you are not that childs parent.

and no a judge is not gonna give a single fukk that your biologically related to this child you completely signed away all of your legal rights to.

try to establish a great relationship with an adult child at 18 with all your stories that sure you love them, you just completely signed away and legal right to them at all because you didnt want to have to pay via court order.

if this aint the most have your cake and eat it too bullshyt i have ever heard in my life.

wanna sign away rights but then get to do all the fun daddy shyt and whatever else you want including pay whatever you want when you want.

:martin:
I read this entire post and you seem to be the most level headed human here. :salute:
I also see a bunch of future dead beat dads, (I'm certain some already are.) women haters, some great debaters, fukk boys and just plain stupid people. :snoop:
If I had a hat on, I'd take it off for you ma girl.:duck:
*Goes back into reading mode.
 

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first of all i dont believe that the majority of dudes who would actually sign away their parental rights are just gonna be FOTY all of a sudden and support their child simply out of the goodness of their heart.
but here you go..

sure right. supposedly give checks and think the woman has to do anything for you in regards to that other than just cash your check.
you have NO rights. you cant even complain when the woman takes your check and does anything she wants with it.
she could do her hair and nails, she could spend it on her new man

matter of fact her new man is free to legally adopt your child.
change "your baby's" name to his

on top of that
she doesnt ever have to allow or encourage any type of relationship for you with your child.
you know why? legally youre not the childs parent.

god forbid the mother is abusive or jailed or drug dependent.
you cant get custody and you wont even be considered for custody
because legally you are not that childs parent.


and no a judge is not gonna give a single fukk that your biologically related to this child you completely signed away all of your legal rights to.

try to establish a great relationship with an adult child at 18 with all your stories that sure you love them, you just completely signed away and legal right to them at all because you didnt want to have to pay via court order.

if this aint the most have your cake and eat it too bullshyt i have ever heard in my life.

wanna sign away rights but then get to do all the fun daddy shyt and whatever else you want including pay whatever you want when you want.

:martin:

I didn't say anything about being FOTY.

You make some good points regarding the bolded, all I'm saying is that something has to be done to combat the notion that a fathers role in a child's life should revolve strictly around finances. It's not about having your cake and eating it too, women want the freedom to choose whether to have children that two people helped create, then those same women shouldn't be so quick to deny men some choice as well. A law like this will help to stem out of wedlock pregnancies and illegitimate children. It's sad that it has to come to this, but that's the reality.
 

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I didn't say anything about being FOTY.

You make some good points regarding the bolded, all I'm saying is that something has to be done to combat the notion that a fathers role in a child's life should revolve strictly around finances. It's not about having your cake and eating it too, women want the freedom to choose whether to have children that two people helped create, then those same women shouldn't be so quick to deny men some choice as well. A law like this will help to stem out of wedlock pregnancies and illegitimate children. It's sad that it has to come to this, but that's the reality.

i have posted on here numerous times that some adjustments need to be made in the family court system. im a custodial parent and a non custodial stepparent and a shared custodial grandparent.
i have much more experience with the family court and its flaws than most here.
this idea is no more than wishful thinking on some folks part and is not the fix all or the "well we gotta get back at women. aha! take that bytch!" that some of yall think it is.
this is only an acceptable imaginary answer for folks who want to continue to fukk any and everybody and do so raw.
this isnt about fathers rights or the problems within the family court system
notice with all the cheering in this thread there havent been any men talking about losing access to their children
or not being able to have a meaningful relationship with their children

no. its all been about money and peoples pockets and" oh well that bytch just gonna have to get an abortion now, i can pay for the abortion"

i am extremely supportive of noncustodial fathers rights, since my own husband is one.

be selective in who you fukk. be responsible for your own personal birth control-not just trust your partner.
dont continue to go raw in chicks and play russian roulette with your parenthood status just because "it feels so good"

this law is never ever ever going to happen in this country.

lobby for more numerous and effective options for birth control for men.
work towards changes in the family court system.
stop fukking hoes that you know already you cant even imagine having to deal with for a whole weekend nevermind the next 18 years.
 

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i have posted on here numerous times that some adjustments need to be made in the family court system. im a custodial parent and a non custodial stepparent and a shared custodial grandparent.
i have much more experience with the family court and its flaws than most here.
this idea is no more than wishful thinking on some folks part and is not the fix all or the "well we gotta get back at women. aha! take that bytch!" that some of yall think it is.
this is only an acceptable imaginary answer for folks who want to continue to fukk any and everybody and do so raw.
this isnt about fathers rights or the problems within the family court system
notice with all the cheering in this thread there havent been any men talking about losing access to their children
or not being able to have a meaningful relationship with their children

no. its all been about money and peoples pockets and" oh well that bytch just gonna have to get an abortion now, i can pay for the abortion"

i am extremely supportive of noncustodial fathers rights, since my own husband is one.

be selective in who you fukk. be responsible for your own personal birth control-not just trust your partner.
dont continue to go raw in chicks and play russian roulette with your parenthood status just because "it feels so good"

this law is never ever ever going to happen in this country.

lobby for more numerous and effective options for birth control for men.
work towards changes in the family court system.
stop fukking hoes that you know already you cant even imagine having to deal with for a whole weekend nevermind the next 18 years.

:wow:(REP)
 

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Nope. If you put gas in someone's car, you're not allowed to siphon it back out because the owner of the car didn't drive where you asked them to.

Quit fukking raw if you don't want children. a$$holes.


close your legs
 

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Not sure how I feel about this, but I don't see myself in this situation anyway. :manny:

I will say that many women will get a reality check with this. No more having a baby in hopes of keeping a man. No more trying to trap a baller. Groupies are going to be MAD.
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The women who will be most affected by this are women from lower income households. It costs $176,550 to raise a child to 18 and that is being generous.

So do you as a young mother, raise the child alone or have an abortion? Abortion laws are getting even more strict. Abortion clinics are closing down, so you have to travel even farther to get to one. In some states, there is a waiting period between the pregnancy test/first visit and the actual abortion of 24-72 hours. Average abortion is $300-400. Add in traveling fees and a place to stay if you aren't able to go back and forth.

Like I stated, many women who do not have access to or funds for abortion, end up hurting themselves trying to self-abort. How is that not a tough choice. Having a child is a huge responsibility.

If this law were to be upheld in the US, they would have to provide better sex education and access to birth control.
These broke bytches don't need kids... If u can't afford it why are you raising a child.

This is y the black community is shyt now...
 

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What about the guys that go around getting women pregnant on purpose? They can just get them pregnant then be like "I don't want to take care of the kid bye"

Then don't fukk them I swear woman can't take of any responsibility. U know u have a choice not to fukk ain't shyt people but you continue to fukk a nikka like that. That's just pure restard shyt. Maybe woman should get married and have children and not trap nikkas with your b*stard children...
 
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