What about D Rose? He's the franchise in Chicago ya'know
Some things go without saying bro
Of course DRose isnt on the chopping block
they can have Doug, Niko, Portis, expirings in Noah/Pau and whatever picks they want
Should the Kings trade DeMarcus Cousins?
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Some things go without saying bro
Of course DRose isnt on the chopping block
they can have Doug, Niko, Portis, expirings in Noah/Pau and whatever picks they want
I think Danny pulls the trigger and gives up the pick if it looks like you're going to miss the playoffs, he gave up the 5th pick for Ray Allen, you know he's not afraid to give up potential for a known commodity.
on defense for sure
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
Thing is this, if you're Boston, if you have a pick that can get you 9 years of Skal or Simmons, you're trading that for Boogie in Boston? That's a huge risk for the Celtics to take (then again, who else could they cash in those picks on?)
Danny gave up the 5th pick for Ray Allen. If that pick was 1 or 2 he wouldn't have done it.
Adebisi_Said
Truth is Power
Give them the Dallas pick, Lee's expiring, plus other young pieces and call it a day.
duckbutta
eienaar van mans
There are some problems with him as a player that a lot of people overlook, his turnovers, love of unnecessary jumpers and generally wasting possessions is something that people don't really notice if they don't see a lot of Kings games. I watched him a lot and I came away kind of likeyou can't blame those kind of things on the front office, he makes some absolutely terrible plays on the court.
I absolutely blame those things on the front office, because he never had a real coach to teach him at an NBA level. Execpt Mike Malone and all it took for Vivek to fire him was for Cousins to get sick.
Vivek purposely went and hired a guy in George Karl who might be the worst big man head coach ever...the only thing I can remember about a big man on a George karl team is when they were labeling Marcus Camby as "the greatest lob passer ever"
Cousins entire attitude reminds me of how I was when I worked at this company that went bankrupt because management made some dumb financial decisions...I was a windows admin at the time...and I looked around and I said "I am surrounded by dumb ass management who have made years of bad decisions and co workers who are not very good at what they do either, so fukk this windows admin stuff they pay me to do i am going to hop on these virtualization projects, enhance my skill set for the next job, and leave"...and that is what I did...any windows admin shyt assigned to me i didn't do any of it, to the detriment of the company, which i didn't give a shyt about anymore since it was filing for bankruptcy, and anything virtualization related i would just force my way into even though i didn't have the skillset or work in that department...
Does he take to many jumpers? Yep. Does he just flat out not play defense 5 possessions in a row? Yep. Can he be a complete black hole on offense? Yep. Does he pout to much when he doesn't touch the ball. Yep. Does he not give maximum effort some time? Yep. But I can't imagine a center who wouldn't do these things if they had to play for a poorly run franchise like the Kings their entire career, and then got a coach who not only never utilizes big men in his offense but then tried to fukking trade you almost as soon as he became the coach. I think if you just put him in an environment that doesn't suck you don't have to "work" with him. He will just start playing winning basketball.
You realize the Celtics have 500 other draft picks including rights to swap with Brooklyn in 2017, another unprotected Brooklyn pick in 2018 along with a 2016 Dallas pick that's looking good as well
Tell me where the better offer is... No one has answered that
I think it may only take 1 pick, and the Nets will be ass again next year so no big loss
Honestly, if the Celtics stay committed to Stevens (which they obviously will), then you're better off actually using these draft picks and building something special
Sign free agents along the way with basically infinite capspace
Boogie is not the answer for your squad, build from scratch
Yeah but Cousins is already a franchise player.
It's basically trading a franchise player (Cousins)...for a draft pick...that might be a franchise player (maybe)....and the 4 other guys that will be around him that are currently on the roster? They already have proven they really aint shyt. So you gotta replace them too.
It would be kicking the bucket down the street for another 6 years.
duckbutta
eienaar van mans
It really cannot be over stated how dumb of a move this was. They were starting to play really well and Cousins got sick and Vivek fukking fired Malone. fukking FIRED a head coach because he started losing games because the teams best player got viral meningitis...
I mean...I guess Peter **** should have fired Pop last year when the spurs struggled out the gate cause Kawhi had an eye infection and then tore a ligament in his hand that was so random hand specialist couldn't explain how it happened
triplehate
Superstar
Nope just keep him
I'm not quite sure he's a franchise player, great centers could get their teams to .500 no matter what hand they were dealt. I used to be on his side but watching him at times I come away disgusted with his game, there are a lot of holes and he is definitely part of the problem.
If I have a shot at Simmons or Skal, I take it
Simmons is a 6'10" Point forward with a handle & athleticism, those type of guys rarely fail in the league.
I think Danny believes if anybody can get through to cousins, it's Stevens... but Danny also realizes he has a zillion options and won't give up everything for an unpredictable head case like cousins
He's worked too hard to build up that treasure chest and the team's culture to risk it all on somebody like cousins
Like I said, what are the other offers? Who is interested? Even without the Brooklyn pick, celtics could make the best offer