Since this is probably Kobe's last season playing, I guess it's time to admit

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

I don't understand how people can say kobe is better scorer than bron... Look at both of their fg and 3 point percentages..

Don't forget scoring averages. Stans are gonna Stan. Reality hurts for them. Must be a terrible feeling to be that insecure about their hero.

 

[Bilz]

I agree 5 is greater than 2, but Shaq cannot be countered with Bosh and Wade because that's TWO players.

Or do you not understand 2 is greater than 1?

I could argue Pau and Odom is equal to Bosh and Wade, but you'll probably act like you don't understand that.

As far as rings go, I believe Chamberlain was more dominant and a better player than Russell despite Russell having more championships due to having better teammates.

But your simpleton behind probably can't comprehend that concept, huh m

They only use ring count in these arguments because it conveniently gets them to the outcome they are looking for. They don't actually believe it measures greatness and if LeBron did end up with six titles, they'd discount them based on who he played with and what role he played on the teams.

I've been around here for a while and none of the prominent Kobestans in these arguments were saying Duncan>Kobe after 2007 because Duncan simply having more rings did nothing to change their minds that Kobe was better.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

They only use ring count in these arguments because it conveniently gets them to the outcome they are looking for. They don't actually believe it measures greatness and if LeBron did end up with six titles, they'd discount them based on who he played with and what role he played on the teams.

I've been around here for a while and none of the prominent Kobestans in these arguments were saying Duncan>Kobe after 2007 because Duncan simply having more rings did nothing to change their minds that Kobe was better.

Stans

 

[Consumed]

I don't know why I let this argument draw so far out. This man is referencing all NBA defense awards as if they aren't more representative of media hype than reality, completely ignoring that the statistical data contradicts his position, still referencing "many" and "other" people without explaining who they actually are suggesting, using Skip Bayless as a source, constantly saying "I'm not reading this" when I do post information, filling his arguments with dozens of expletives & references to mental afflictions that have nothing to do with basketball. admittedly copy pasting my posts & tweaking them to sound clever and somehow using my support for LBJ or use of statistics to suggest that I'm not black.

No I just don't need to I don't answer to fakkit cacs like you bytch you have the audacity to tell a nikka to prove some shyt to your punk ass, fukk outta here if you weren't such a moron I'd actually put some effort into these replies but I'm just trollin you at this point

you have the audacity to tell a nikka to prove some shyt to your punk ass, fukk outta here if you weren't such a moron I'd actually put some effort into these replies but I'm just trollin you at this point

I'd actually put some effort into these replies but I'm just trollin you at this point

just trollin you at this point

And that sums it up. Gets mad when someone tells him to prove something, because that's apparently out of reason in a debate, and admits that he's trolling. I post the atr finishing percentages of LBJ/MJ compared to Kobe to show he's not on their level in that area, and of course he responds

Won't even bother readin thru your borin autistic chart

Predictably so. I'd assume for most of what I posted he didn't read, and don't see a point in posting to that extent if the opposition turns a blind eye to statistical information.

 

[Sccit]

ANY1 WHO THINKS LEBRON IS BETTER THAN PRIME KOBE, LET ALONE IN THE SAME ECHELON, SIMPLY DOESNT DESERVE TO WATCH BASKETBALL.

ANY1 WHO USES STATS TO MEASURE GREATNESS IS A NERD WHO PROLLY PREFERS TO READ BOX SCORES OVER WATCHING THE GAMES.

 

[Noah]

@Consumed doing the lords work

 

[Sccit]

IF STATISTICS WERE A WAY TO MEASURE GREATNESS, THEN ANTHONY DAVIS WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE LAST YEAR..........WILT CHAMBERLAIN IN HIS PRIME IS BY FAR THE GOAT............DAVID ROBINSON>>>>TIM DUNCAN



KILL THAT NOISE, FAMMO.....LEBRON IS A KNOWN STAT-STUFFER. TRIANGLE OFFENSE IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY OFFENSE. HAND KOBE A FRANCHISE LIKE CLEVELAND FROM DAY 1, AND HE'D UNDENIABLY HAVE SOME 40+ PPG SEASONS UNDER HIS BELT....THIS STUFF IS CIRCUMSTANTIAL. @Consumed THEREFORE, YOUR ARGUMENT IS NULL AND VOID.

 

[Stack Money]

:michaeljordanlaugh:@ the butthurt Kobe haters comin out of the woodwork on Thanksgivin.

I don't understand how people can say kobe is better scorer than bron... Look at both of their fg and 3 point percentages..

Cause Kobe was droppin 81 on nikkas and 62 in 3 Quarters outscorin the entire Mavs team by himselfno one could score like prime Kobe.

Don't forget scoring averages. Stans are gonna Stan. Reality hurts for them. Must be a terrible feeling to be that insecure about their hero.

Co-sign you stans are gonna stan, it really hurts yall LeBron dikkriders that he can never be as great as Kobe. This thread shows it must be a terrible feelin for yall to be that insecure about your hero, makin threads about a retirement bound Kobe and still desperately tryna convince everyone LeBron's better when errbody already came to the conclusion that he's inferior.

They only use ring count in these arguments because it conveniently gets them to the outcome they are looking for. They don't actually believe it measures greatness and if LeBron did end up with six titles, they'd discount them based on who he played with and what role he played on the teams.

I've been around here for a while and none of the prominent Kobestans in these arguments were saying Duncan>Kobe after 2007 because Duncan simply having more rings did nothing to change their minds that Kobe was better.

Yall only conveniently try to discredit ring count in these arguments cause it doesn't get YOU to the outcome yall are lookin for, we do believe rings = greatness and deep down yall know it measures greatness. @ LeBron endin up wit 6 titles thats pure stan fantasy but of course if he wasn't Batman or played like shyt he'd lose points, no one said Duncan was better than Kobe cause he wasn't the best player on his team by the time he got his 4th he was the 3rd best player on his team when he got his 5th and is the 4th best player on his team now.

Stans

Says the LeBron stan and Heat bandwagon fan

I don't know why I let this argument draw so far out. This man is referencing all NBA defense awards as if they aren't more representative of media hype than reality, completely ignoring that the statistical data contradicts his position, still referencing "many" and "other" people without explaining who they actually are suggesting, using Skip Bayless as a source, constantly saying "I'm not reading this" when I do post information, filling his arguments with dozens of expletives & references to mental afflictions that have nothing to do with basketball. admittedly copy pasting my posts & tweaking them to sound clever and somehow using my support for LBJ or use of statistics to suggest that I'm not black.





And that sums it up. Gets mad when someone tells him to prove something, because that's apparently out of reason in a debate, and admits that he's trolling. I post the atr finishing percentages of LBJ/MJ compared to Kobe to show he's not on their level in that area, and of course he responds



Predictably so. I'd assume for most of what I posted he didn't read, and don't see a point in posting to that extent if the opposition turns a blind eye to statistical information.

You so butthurt you still tryna low key type another essay on Thanksgivin makin food late and burnin the turkey cause you stoppin to write a mini book, disgustin that you too cowardly to @ me in true bytchmade fashion. You drew this argument so far out cause you were in your feelins furiously defendin LeBron's honor, you tryna discredit All NBA Defense now cause it makes Kobe look good yet you place so much value on made up stats like PER holdin it up as the end all be all. That statistical data is fake and the real data doesn't tell the full story cause certain players like to pad their stats in blowouts, you just mad that I'm referencin "many" "other" people cause they disagree wit the bullshyt you sayin I flat out told you what they said they ain't suggest shyt they said the same things I did and you know it you just don't want to accept it.

YOU the one who brought up Skip Bayless in the first place cause bein a stan you tight over how he calls out LeBron like I do, I'm sayin I ain't readin it cause your "information" is usually biased opinion or just long winded whiny capin. I always use curse words thats just how I talk I'm quick to cuss a nikka out I guess that hurt your little feelins too:triplehusad:and we got more than a few retards autistic cats on here who type just like you makin delusional emotional arguments so I'm just callin it how I see it, I wasn't gonna put effort into respondin to your nonsense so of course I tweaked your posts I wasn't tryna sound clever I was showin how everythin you said was hypocritical. Nah the way you talk sayin shyt like "expletives" and bein all proper suggests you not black, your "support" for LeBron is dikkridin and suggests you a fakkit and your obsession wit statistics suggests you autistic like I said.

I didn't get mad your sensitive cac ass just can't handle cuss words and get scared like I'm bout to reach thru the screen and choke you to death, you the only one thinkin this was a debate I viewed it as a rather pointless back and forth argument so I don't have to prove nothin cause it ain't that serious for me. I always troll muhfukkas who catch feelins which tends to happen alot on here and if you get so butthurt by a disagreement that you type 15,000 words in response to a paragraph in whats basically a troll thread you deserve to be clowned, you posted random baseball like stats that no one even looks at when I already showed that Kobe is on their level in that area which is widely accepted by non LeBron stans.

Of course I didn't read most of your novels nikka ain't nobody got time for that, you shouldn't see a point in postin to that extent PERIOD you losin sleep defendin LeBron on a message board you pathetic as fukk. Ain't no "opposition" again you takin this too seriously like its a formal presidential debate or somethin which screams cac, there your autism goes again bein obsessed wit numbers YOU turned a blind eye to the facts and "statistical information" that proved you wrong only focusin on the parts that made your man look good so I was done takin you seriously the second you started pickin and choosin stats to fit your narrative.

@Consumed doing the lords work

That dikkrider doin LeBron's work, he holdin it down for all the stans.

ANY1 WHO THINKS LEBRON IS BETTER THAN PRIME KOBE, LET ALONE IN THE SAME ECHELON, SIMPLY DOESNT DESERVE TO WATCH BASKETBALL.

ANY1 WHO USES STATS TO MEASURE GREATNESS IS A NERD WHO PROLLY PREFERS TO READ BOX SCORES OVER WATCHING THE GAMES.

IF STATISTICS WERE A WAY TO MEASURE GREATNESS, THEN ANTHONY DAVIS WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE LAST YEAR..........WILT CHAMBERLAIN IN HIS PRIME IS BY FAR THE GOAT............DAVID ROBINSON>>>>TIM DUNCAN



KILL THAT NOISE, FAMMO.....LEBRON IS A KNOWN STAT-STUFFER. TRIANGLE OFFENSE IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY OFFENSE. HAND KOBE A FRANCHISE LIKE CLEVELAND FROM DAY 1, AND HE'D UNDENIABLY HAVE SOME 40+ PPG SEASONS UNDER HIS BELT....THIS STUFF IS CIRCUMSTANTIAL. @Consumed THEREFORE, YOUR ARGUMENT IS NULL AND VOID.

PREACH!

 

[Dominicansbelit]

:michaeljordanlaugh:@ the butthurt Kobe haters comin out of the woodwork on Thanksgivin.


Cause Kobe was droppin 81 on nikkas and 62 in 3 Quarters outscorin the entire Mavs team by himselfno one could score like prime Kobe.


Co-sign you stans are gonna stan, it really hurts yall LeBron dikkriders that he can never be as great as Kobe. This thread shows it must be a terrible feelin for yall to be that insecure about your hero, makin threads about a retirement bound Kobe and still desperately tryna convince everyone LeBron's better when errbody already came to the conclusion that he's inferior.


Yall only conveniently try to discredit ring count in these arguments cause it doesn't get YOU to the outcome yall are lookin for, we do believe rings = greatness and deep down yall know it measures greatness. @ LeBron endin up wit 6 titles thats pure stan fantasy but of course if he wasn't Batman or played like shyt he'd lose points, no one said Duncan was better than Kobe cause he wasn't the best player on his team by the time he got his 4th he was the 3rd best player on his team when he got his 5th and is the 4th best player on his team now.


Says the LeBron stan and Heat bandwagon fan


You so butthurt you still tryna low key type another essay on Thanksgivin makin food late and burnin the turkey cause you stoppin to write a mini book, disgustin that you too cowardly to @ me in true bytchmade fashion. You drew this argument so far out cause you were in your feelins furiously defendin LeBron's honor, you tryna discredit All NBA Defense now cause it makes Kobe look good yet you place so much value on made up stats like PER holdin it up as the end all be all. That statistical data is fake and the real data doesn't tell the full story cause certain players like to pad their stats in blowouts, you just mad that I'm referencin "many" "other" people cause they disagree wit the bullshyt you sayin I flat out told you what they said they ain't suggest shyt they said the same things I did and you know it you just don't want to accept it.

YOU the one who brought up Skip Bayless in the first place cause bein a stan you tight over how he calls out LeBron like I do, I'm sayin I ain't readin it cause your "information" is usually biased opinion or just long winded whiny capin. I always use curse words thats just how I talk I'm quick to cuss a nikka out I guess that hurt your little feelins too:triplehusad:and we got more than a few retards autistic cats on here who type just like you makin delusional emotional arguments so I'm just callin it how I see it, I wasn't gonna put effort into respondin to your nonsense so of course I tweaked your posts I wasn't tryna sound clever I was showin how everythin you said was hypocritical. Nah the way you talk sayin shyt like "expletives" and bein all proper suggests you not black, your "support" for LeBron is dikkridin and suggests you a fakkit and your obsession wit statistics suggests you autistic like I said.

I didn't get mad your sensitive cac ass just can't handle cuss words and get scared like I'm bout to reach thru the screen and choke you to death, you the only one thinkin this was a debate I viewed it as a rather pointless back and forth argument so I don't have to prove nothin cause it ain't that serious for me. I always troll muhfukkas who catch feelins which tends to happen alot on here and if you get so butthurt by a disagreement that you type 15,000 words in response to a paragraph in whats basically a troll thread you deserve to be clowned, you posted random baseball like stats that no one even looks at when I already showed that Kobe is on their level in that area which is widely accepted by non LeBron stans.

Of course I didn't read most of your novels nikka ain't nobody got time for that, you shouldn't see a point in postin to that extent PERIOD you losin sleep defendin LeBron on a message board you pathetic as fukk. Ain't no "opposition" again you takin this too seriously like its a formal presidential debate or somethin which screams cac, there your autism goes again bein obsessed wit numbers YOU turned a blind eye to the facts and "statistical information" that proved you wrong only focusin on the parts that made your man look good so I was done takin you seriously the second you started pickin and choosin stats to fit your narrative.


That dikkrider doin LeBron's work, he holdin it down for all the stans.


PREACH!

Smh... Hold dis L

Fg % > PPG

Every coach will take a player who averages 20 ppg on a good fg % rather than kobe who is a shot chucker and wastes possesion by bricking contested shots.. kobe is a legend but his iq is below average and he is a terrible team player.. tim duncan, lebron, kevin garnet > kobe

all three of those players have been the best in the league at some point.. not kobe...

 

[JahFocus CS]

kobe is a legend but his iq is below average

This is a ridiculous statement since almost every serious person would say he has one of the best minds for basketball, at least during his era, if not in the history of the game.

 

[Dominicansbelit]

This is a ridiculous statement since almost every serious person would say he has one of the best minds for basketball, at least during his era, if not in the history of the game.

so why is he playing like a garbage can at the moment.. his iq should be enough for him to play solid defense, make good passes, and just be in good positions the whole game.. but no .. he wants to play like he's still 26.. his iq is below average and you can't disprove that.. form ur own opinion breh..

 

[Sccit]

Smh... Hold dis L

Fg % > PPG

Every coach will take a player who averages 20 ppg on a good fg % rather than kobe who is a shot chucker and wastes possesion by bricking contested shots.. kobe is a legend but his iq is below average and he is a terrible team player.. tim duncan, lebron, kevin garnet > kobe

all three of those players have been the best in the league at some point.. not kobe...

SO SHAQ>MJ, BECAUSE FG% IS MOST IMPORTANT....KILL YASELF IDIOT. ANYONE WIT HALF A BRAIN KNOWS THAT PLAYERS WIT LESS RANGE NATURALLY HAVE A MUCH HIGHER FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE THAN PLAYERS WHO CAN SHOOT FROM DISTANCE. LEBRON'S SHOT IS SUSPECT TO AVERAGE AT BEST, WHICH IS WHY MOST HIS POINTS HAVE TO COME AT THE BASKET, AND THATS WHY HE'S MUCH EASIER TO DEFEND THAN KOBE...BORIS DIAW GUARDED HIM 1-ON-1 WITH A 5 FOOT CUSHION IN THE FUCCIN NBA FINALS....KOBE IN HIS PRIME WAS SEEING DOUBLE AND TRIPLE TEAMS, WITHOUT EVEN HAVING THE BALL....IF FG% WAS WHAT DETERMINED GREATNESS, THEN DEANDRE JORDAN IS THE BEST IN THE LEAGUE AKA U DUMB AS HELL FOR THAT 1. STOP IT.

 

[Sccit]

LMAO I JUS SAW THAT HE SAID KEVIN GARNETT WAS THE BEST IN THE LEAGUE AND NOT KOBE...SOME1 BAN HIM FROM THIS SECTION.

 

[Sccit]

This is a ridiculous statement since almost every serious person would say he has one of the best minds for basketball, at least during his era, if not in the history of the game.

LOL KOBE HAS STUDIED THE GAME LIKE NO OTHER AND QUESTIONING HIS BASKETBALL IQ WOULD BE LIKE QUESTIONING ALBERT EINSTEIN'S INTELLIGENCE. DUDE IS CLEARLY TROLLIN AT THIS POINT.

 

[Sccit]

so why is he playing like a garbage can at the moment.. his iq should be enough for him to play solid defense, make good passes, and just be in good positions the whole game.. but no .. he wants to play like he's still 26.. his iq is below average and you can't disprove that.. form ur own opinion breh..

BECAUSE HE WANTS TO DO MORE THAN HE PHYSICALLY CAN RIGHT NOW...IN HIS MIND, HE CAN KNOCK THOSE SHOTS DOWN...AND HE CAN. DO U KNOW WHAT BASKETBALL IQ EVEN MEANS? BEING OVERZEALOUS IS NOT A MEASURE OF IT..THAT'S A PERSONALITY TRAIT...SAME 1 THAT MADE KOBE GREAT FOR SO MANY YEARS. LAKERS AINT GOIN ANYWHERE, SO HE AINT HOLDIN SHIIT BACK....TO QUESTION HIS BASKETBALL IQ BECAUSE HOW HE'S PLAYING COMIN OFF AN ACHILLES TEAR, SHOULDER SURGERY, BROKEN KNEE ETC 20 SEASONS IN........IT'S THE STUFF THE BUSHES IS MADE OF.